in believing we can stay up? With key players coming back for other teams in the relegation fight, are our survival dreams realistic? 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif
No, we can do it if we are consistent I'm not kidding! 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif
We're probably going to have to average over a point per game to stay up, which is a tough ask. We'll know if it will be possible after the next 3 games. 7 points needed at minimum I think.
We have every reason to be positive for now. My main concern is whether we are going to score enough goals.
Quote from: Dunstable Fulham on March 17, 2021, 10:41:12 AM
We have every reason to be positive for now. My main concern is whether we are going to score enough goals.
Exactly this.
Quote from: blingo on March 17, 2021, 09:59:29 AM
in believing we can stay up? With key players coming back for other teams in the relegation fight, are our survival dreams realistic? 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif
No we are not, but some are kidding themsevles on how good they think we are.
Its going to be tough but we should just do it and maybe even without the Newcastle game being required.
But make no mistake its on a knife edge and still going to have some ups and dopwns over these last 9 games for us.
And, in a strange way, it was probably not a bad thing that we had that disastrous 15 minutes against Man City to reinforce the need to be on our game at all times.
We need to learn how to score twice in one game. If we can figure that I'd back our defence to make sure we don't concede more than once.
Quote from: Dunstable Fulham on March 17, 2021, 10:41:12 AM
We have every reason to be positive for now. My main concern is whether we are going to score enough goals.
I don't see it like that. In our last 6 games we scored 3 goals and won two and drew two (and we've played 6 of the top 8 in our last 9 games)
No, the teams around us, if they have had injuries, have still had those players available for most of the season, big weekend ahead, we win, Newcastle lose, we're out of the bottom 3 for the international break, big boost.
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Quote from: Tempest on March 17, 2021, 12:28:39 PM
No, the teams around us, if they have had injuries, have still had those players available for most of the season, big weekend ahead, we win, Newcastle lose, we're out of the bottom 3 for the international break, big boost.
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Maybe a Newcastle draw would be better
I still believe. We are the best footballing side in the lower half of the table and have taken points off a number of top teams. My only fear is we cannot score, there are too many players with no goals to their name or play in positions where I would expect to see several by now. Need to get a bit more brave in front of goal, possibly hitting the target more often and shooting earlier.
It is in the balance but we are in with a chance of survival.
1. We have a major problem scoring goals, only one in the last four games, we need goals for wins.
2.We have a very good defense and should get clean sheets in some of the remaining games.
3. All players, except Cairney are match fit. An injury to Andersen or Tosin would hurt us badly but we have good cover for other positions.
4. If Mitro could find his form and if Parker would give him starts he could be our saviour.
5. The return of fans for that final match against Newcastle could turn out to be vital.
6. Parker is street wise and adjust tactics to suit opponents, we are in good hands.
Bamford is a doubt for Leeds. He always scores against us.
Our problem is scoring goals at home.
What have we got - 8 at the Cottage all season?
Nowhere near good enough.
Coming up against the likes of Leeds, Wolves, Burnley & Newcastle at home in the run in we will need to do a lot better than that.
If there is one thing we have learned about this season is that we have adeveloping team. we will score the goals needed I believe.
Forget what happened v Man City although that 15 minute spell at the start of the second half is warning that we cannot take our eye off the ball for one second, although it was Man City after all and will punish any errors or lack of concentration.
All I am worried about is our lack of scoring goals especially 2 or more because we cannot expect to keep a clean sheet in every match.
So then would you agree we need to play 442 with maja and mitro up front Mr Woolly?
I don't think there is a guarantee but there is hope and where there is hope there is a good chance
I don't think we are totally kidding ourselves, there is a chance for survival. The way I look at it right now is that it is a real long shot for FFC to stick. Real long. Our achilles heel all season long has been not being clinical enough with final third opportunities. Simple as that. And I don't see how that changes overnight or during these final nine games. Believe me, I hope it does change, and one or two players step forward and become heroes of sorts. But I'm not holding my breath. Every game will be pins and needles....
COYW!!
Edit...haha, spelling correction
We're absolutely in this. We're two points behind Newcastle and they have a match in hand, but their run-in is way harder than ours. We haven't lost to a team outside the top-7 in months, and only have two of those left -- and Manchester United may have nothing to play for on MD37.
I think it will be hard to be done and dusted before the Newcastle match -- we'll need to gain at least 5 points on them in 8 matches (with them playing nine), but it's not impossible. I'd sign right now for any legitimate chance on the final day, though.
Anyone who thinks we are nailed on to survive is not just kidding themselves, they are delusional. However I don't see many (if any) who see it that way, most of us see a possibility of survival and I don't think that is at all unreasonable. Like others on here I just want to see us scoring more than one in a game.
Quote from: Twig on March 17, 2021, 03:25:01 PM
Anyone who thinks we are nailed on to survive is not just kidding themselves, they are delusional. However I don't see many (if any) who see it that way, most of us see a possibility of survival and I don't think that is at all unreasonable. Like others on here I just want to see us scoring more than one in a game.
:plus one:
Quote from: blingo on March 17, 2021, 01:59:05 PM
So then would you agree we need to play 442 with maja and mitro up front Mr Woolly?
Hmmm under the circumstances it is worth a try and Leeds may be the ideal opponent, as long as Maja comes deep receives the ball and plays it off Mitro providing of course that we have a decent winger/ wide man as the outlet. Lookman is good but could be so much better if he passed the ball to a player who is in a better position, because eventually some players may not support Lookman on the ball all the time as they will feel they will never receive the ball and when it inevitably breaks down when Lookman gets disposed, then it's a dangerous game because the ball has been lost cheaply and with Leeds they switch from defence to attack very quickly and that is where I feel they will outnumber us and hitting our defence far too quickly.
I was MEGA confident after Liverpool but City took the wind out of me
We simply have to beat Leeds it's as simple as that
Quote from: blingo on March 17, 2021, 09:59:29 AM
in believing we can stay up? With key players coming back for other teams in the relegation fight, are our survival dreams realistic? 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif
No, we are not kidding ourselves. We can stay up and probably deserve to stay up, but will we? Time will tell.
Four games at home Leeds, Wolves, Burnley and Newcastle we must win all four .
Our five away games Villa, Arsenal, Chelsea , Man United, Southampton.
Out of these five away games I can only see one point from Southampton
Win our four at home and draw one away will 13 points from these games be good enough to stay up.
We can definitely stay up but I fear the most realistic outcome is 2-3 points below 17th. We have a couple of winnable games coming up but they're exactly the kind of games we've struggled with this season. We will probably need 6-7 points from the next 3.
In our last 10 home league games we have scored 3 goals - probably the worst run in our history. Major problem.
Survival is in the balance.
One game at a time gents. Right now, I'd say we're probably down (my personal opinion) but we're in much better shape than I ever predicted so it's progressively getting more positive. Much like a win at Leeds would do.
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Quote from: Dunstable Fulham on March 17, 2021, 10:41:12 AM
We have every reason to be positive for now. My main concern is whether we are going to score enough goals.
I don't see it like that. In our last 6 games we scored 3 goals and won two and drew two (and we've played 6 of the top 8 in our last 9 games)
I understand your point but how many points do you think we will get in our next six games if we only score 3 goals ? This is my point.
Quote from: Bill2 on March 17, 2021, 12:50:16 PM
I still believe. We are the best footballing side in the lower half of the table and have taken points off a number of top teams. My only fear is we cannot score, there are too many players with no goals to their name or play in positions where I would expect to see several by now. Need to get a bit more brave in front of goal, possibly hitting the target more often and shooting earlier.
The Problem is we havent taken many points off teams around us, Parker seemed to frighten to attack in fear of losing and this will be the reason we go down, hopefully he has learned from his mistake and go and attack when we play the few games left against other bottom half sides
I'm fairly confident that there will be less than 3 point between Newcastle and us going into the last game...us getting 6 point more than them sounds unlikely and them getting 2 points more than us sounds unlikely to.
We basically have another play-off Final...and we love those!!!!
Hudds stayed up in the 2017/2018 season despite only scoring 28 goals, we can only score 5 more if we are going for a record...
Quote from: WindyCity on March 17, 2021, 02:31:09 PM
I don't think we are totally kidding ourselves, there is a chance for survival. The way I look at it right now is that it is a real long shot for FFC to stick. Real long. Our achilles heal all season long has been not being clinical enough with final third opportunities. Simple as that. And I don't see how that changes overnight or during these final nine games. Believe me, I hope it does change, and one or two players step forward and become heroes of sorts. But I'm not holding my breath. Every game will be pins and needles....
COYW!!
Agreed, but I also think that fortune has not favoured us at all this season. Poor decisions against us, missed penalties, short time between matches leaving us unprepared. If luck evens out (which I doubt) then it might favour us for the rest of the season. We can but hope.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on March 18, 2021, 09:46:35 AM
Hudds stayed up in the 2017/2018 season despite only scoring 28 goals, we can only score 5 more if we are going for a record...
That is 0.55 goals a game (over the next 9). We are averaging 0.75 a game.
I was reasonably confident after Liverpool but our lack of goals still worries me. I can see us losing these 'winnable games' simply because we are unable to put the ball in the back of the net.
We have to play two strikers up front and just go for it for the full 90 minutes
Bottom line: if we don't start scoring some goals, we are done.
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on March 18, 2021, 06:47:00 PM
Bottom line: if we don't start scoring some goals, we are done.
I would take three 1-0 victories and three nil nil draws in a heartbeat...
As long as we avoid incompetent Marriner type officials we will be more than OK ... but the problem is just how many games in this day and age are poorly officiated which means we need to be much more potent in the goal scoring department so that refereeing issues don't cause us havoc or worse. Tonight will show whether Parker and his team have the character and the bravery to rise to the challenge and recover momentum. I believe they will do so.
Quote from: toshes mate on March 19, 2021, 06:44:15 AM
As long as we avoid incompetent Marriner type officials we will be more than OK ... but the problem is just how many games in this day and age are poorly officiated which means we need to be much more potent in the goal scoring department so that refereeing issues don't cause us havoc or worse. Tonight will show whether Parker and his team have the character and the bravery to rise to the challenge and recover momentum. I believe they will do so.
I sincerely hope you are right there Mr Tosh.
