Leeds deserve this - we don't appear to have the belief anymore
Anguissa- World class - I think you're having a laugh
Yeah, Leeds very impressive. They have pressed us all over the pitch and won every loose ball.
Quote from: mancwhite on March 19, 2021, 09:47:41 PM
Anguissa- World class - I think you're having a laugh
Maybe but he's having a crap game
Quote from: mancwhite on March 19, 2021, 09:47:41 PM
Anguissa- World class - I think you're having a laugh
Second that mate. He has been awful tonight.
Leeds suffocated us from the start. And with our lack of creativity and offensive fire power, we struggled. Also, when we get down it makes it that much harder. Its hard to play every game 1-0. We've scored 2 goals against only a few teams. The way we play, margins are razor thin and on many nights we will come out on the wrong side.
There is always hope, but its not looking good with 2 games in had for 2 teams above us.
Quote from: mancwhite on March 19, 2021, 09:47:41 PM
Anguissa- World class - I think you're having a laugh
misread this - apologies - just so disappointed with Fulham - Anguissa been going backwards all game
What a waste of 2hrs of my life!
Quote from: fancyfeet4 on March 19, 2021, 09:54:34 PM
Leeds suffocated us from the start. And with our lack of creativity and offensive fire power, we struggled. Also, when we get down it makes it that much harder. Its hard to play every game 1-0. We've scored 2 goals against only a few teams. The way we play, margins are razor thin and on many nights we will come out on the wrong side.
There is always hope, but its not looking good with 2 games in had for 2 teams above us.
How many times did we get caught dwelling on the ball in midfield? Lemina for their 2nd goal is the one that stands out but I saw Andersen dispossessed more times in this game than he probably has all season.
Really disappointed with the lack of endeavour and cutting edge.
I don't know anyone is surprised. I'm always said remain cautious with this team. Whenever they sniff opportunity they buckle, time and time again.
Lol at singling out Anguissa when it's the defenders and Lemina that are the direct reason we lost that game, Tosin and Andersen did a good chuckle brothers impersonation today
Second best all over tonight, we were and maybe are just not good enough
Quote from: Luffy86 on March 19, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
What a waste of 2hrs of my life!
Not a complete waste....you could have been playing Bingo
Everyone needs to wake up. No chance of staying up. We are just not good enough. No creativity from midfield and Parker replacing Maja was a massive error
Massive opportunity lost. Leeds deserved it, we were not at the races today. Odds stacked against us now I hate to say. Running out of games. We just cannot convert chances and we are starting to make more mistakes at the back.
That was a stinker, had the luck of been with us it could of been different but it wasn't.
For God's sake try one of our youngsters up front. The players we have aren't good enough. I want to support Parker but I am losing faith in him. By the way RLC is a total waste of space. Get rid of him now.
Quote from: mancwhite on March 19, 2021, 09:47:41 PM
Anguissa- World class - I think you're having a laugh
He is one lazy so and so ... There was a marked improvement in our team performances when he was not involved. How Tete didn't start I'll never know.
Have to feel for mitro - will never get a chance under Parker ball
Quote from: somerset cockernee on March 19, 2021, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Luffy86 on March 19, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
What a waste of 2hrs of my life!
Not a complete waste....you could have been playing Bingo
but he might of got close to winner
Hope SP is honest and tells the truth about that performance. A championship side would have turned us over. Would love to know why Tete didn't play.
only Mitrovic escapes critisism.
Quote from: howitis on March 19, 2021, 10:01:04 PM
Quote from: mancwhite on March 19, 2021, 09:47:41 PM
Anguissa- World class - I think you're having a laugh
He is one lazy so and so ... There was a marked improvement in our team performances when he was not involved. How Tete didn't start I'll never know.
Have to feel for mitro - will never get a chance under Parker ball
He got 45 mins and did absolutely nothing, what are you on about? Swapping him for Maja was the start of the downfall
Tosin really isn't as great as people make out to be. Partly responsible for both goals tonight.
He dallies on the ball way to often and gets caught in possesion
Apart from the keeper... every player had an awful game tonight and I don't know why?? Struggled to pass to a white shirt 2nd half..... no urgency.... so many players looked tired or couldn't be bothered!!! Unless Maja got a knock Mitro was a strange decision..... and Robinson was either drunk or stoned.... pitiful
We need 3 wins and 3 draws from the last 8... can't wait for Parkers comments.... absolutely wasted opportunity... we looked like we knew we were down..... shameful...
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I'm in no way a Scott out person but, I think he got tonight all wrong tonight starting with the lineup. I love Robinson, he's an American, but tonight he was off. Would have like to have seen Tete start instead and Robinson come on as his sub later in the match.
The subs, I just don't get the subs tonight at all. I was happy to see RLC not start but was surprised to see Anguissa start over Lemina. I just think Lemina is more creative and is much better at defending. Speaking of defending, really get taking off Reed and bringing on RLC. Nor do I understand why take off Maja who was doing fantastic and leave Anguissa on? God I would have loved to have seen Mitro and Maja together.
Feeling like this was the match that might have ended the season. I need to regroup and get some mojo back for the next match.
Yep, Tosin was extremely poor tonight. But as others have mentioned, too many to talk about. The side was shoddy today.
Lemina was decent today but we lacked their intensity all over the pitch. However Lookman sticks that away and we win.
Quote from: fulhamtom on March 19, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
For God's sake try one of our youngsters up front. The players we have aren't good enough. I want to support Parker but I am losing faith in him. By the way RLC is a total waste of space. Get rid of him now.
Felt RLC and Tete were the only 2 that had any resilience - nobody else was at the races
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on March 19, 2021, 10:03:57 PM
Apart from the keeper... every player had an awful game tonight and I don't know why?? Struggled to pass to a white shirt 2nd half..... no urgency.... so many players looked tired or couldn't be bothered!!! Unless Maja got a knock Mitro was a strange decision..... and Robinson was either drunk or stoned.... pitiful
We need 3 wins and 3 draws from the last 8... can't wait for Parkers comments.... absolutely wasted opportunity... we looked like we knew we were down..... shameful...
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Hate to say it but pretty much bang on
Quote from: love4ffc on March 19, 2021, 10:05:03 PM
I'm in no way a Scott out person but, I think he got tonight all wrong tonight starting with the lineup. I love Robinson, he's an American, but tonight he was off. Would have like to have seen Tete start instead and Robinson come on as his sub later in the match.
The subs, I just don't get the subs tonight at all. I was happy to see RLC not start but was surprised to see Anguissa start over Lemina. I just think Lemina is more creative and is much better at defending. Speaking of defending, really get taking off Reed and bringing on RLC. Nor do I understand why take off Maja who was doing fantastic and leave Anguissa on? God I would have loved to have seen Mitro and Maja together.
Feeling like this was the match that might have ended the season. I need to regroup and get some mojo back for the next match.
Not sure what game you watched but both Frank and Lemina started, and Lemina gifted them the second goal?
Where you start after a collective crap performance felt Scott should have left maja on as thought he did OK and unlucky not to score. Defense tonight was poor and didn't look like a team.
We played great for several months, Scott changed to three defensive midfielders, and we've been impotent and mostly crap for two matches now. Even with BDR unavailable, I don't get it. We just outplayed Spurs and Liverpool and you go into a shell, and worse, it doesn't work and our defense looks horrific after months of solidity.
Quote from: somerset cockernee on March 19, 2021, 09:59:13 PM
Quote from: Luffy86 on March 19, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
What a waste of 2hrs of my life!
Not a complete waste....you could have been playing Bingo
Tbh, I'd probably had more fun playing bingo....
Quote from: Luffy86 on March 19, 2021, 09:56:50 PM
What a waste of 2hrs of my life!
Quote from: DevonFFC on March 19, 2021, 10:00:19 PM
That was a stinker, had the luck of been with us it could of been different but it wasn't.
What luck?? We could have lost by 3 or more, we deserved what we got, nothing!
I think the late kick off was past most of our players bed time. They were half asleep. Really disappointed at the whole performance. I am half standing but half sitting but one has to still believe.
Please do not try to single out scapegoats , man for man they were better than us, with the possible exception of Reed. Tactically they were better than us as well. Just as well we had a little help from VAR.
Crap night, Leeds were the better team and fully deserved their win. I thought Tete not playing was weird but I ain't the Manager. Is the pressure getting to us!? I wonder if it is.
Someone said on another thread they would take needing a win against the Toon, I second that.
I thought Reed played well?
Although Andersen and Tosin looked a lot more uncertain on the ball than usual, and seemed less defensively assured, I think that was down to the Leeds Utd high press and a poor performance from most of the rest of the team. When Andersen and Tosin had the ball, they were looking in vain for some decent movement from others. When Leeds Utd broke forward, particularly after Reed was (wrongly in my view) substituted, they were left exposed with a host of Leeds players running at them as neither Lemina nor Anguissa (nor certain others to be fair) were doing enough to cover the space in front of them.
Cav is a complete mystery to me. What does he provide? Mitro must start from here on in. 8 Wembley Finals left for us now. Praying that Newcastle and Brighton lose lots in next 5 or more games.
I feel sick, and I have a headache, so I'm off to bed. goodnight fellas and I fear after that performance it's good night FFC.
Look, we know who we were playing today. A team that sets up with man-marking throughout the pitch. We had plenty of time to prepare for it. I doubt Parker's instructions were to say that "beat the first man in a 1v1"..." beat the second man in a 1v1"..." right, go ahead and beat the third man in a 1v1". Yet, that's exactly what most of our players tried to do. Every single one of them was guilty of it. I understand Leeds hound all areas of the pitch, but we do not have to keep playing to feet to be effective. Heck, we almost scored from a nothing back-pass of theirs. Instead, we yet again were looking for the perfect pass to indifferent targets. Mitro comes on and couldn't care less to be posted up against one single defender. Lookman stays as wide as possible when we're in the attack, so Ayling can just stay goal-side and never let him get inside. No switching of the wings between Lookman and Cav either so we could offer some options for Tosin and Andersen.
In the dying minutes, we have Lookman going offside, Lookman heading the ball to their keeper for no reason - and then Mitro doing the same. Sod the tactics, what was additionally poor was the decision making in crucial areas. Lookman wants to shoot despite 4 Leeds players in front of him (which means at least one of his teammates is open), and Mitro choosing to pull down their defender rather than stick his head into the ball for a sure goal.
Among some of the players' decision making, to me, this was Parker being completely out-coached because he was being too complicated again. Commentators said it at the start that when we played against City, Parker was playing the opponent - which is why we didn't have a striker on the pitch. Yet here we went again with Parker trying to sacrifice our strength of width for the sake of defending Leeds. There were no outlets for our defenders, let alone our central midfielders - which is why Lemina didn't learn his lesson the first time and coughed up the eventual match-winner.
Leeds were not an easy team, but neither was Man City. We are starting to see self-inflicted concessions now though, and that can only mean that parts of the system need tweaking again. I'm just not sure Parker is going to change things up for the 3rd time this season - but if we have more performances like tonight, it may be too late. I still believe, as I always will until the final whistle on final matchday, that we will stay up - but performances like these sure are tough to swallow. It's going to be a long international break.
Quote from: Fernhurst on March 19, 2021, 10:30:39 PM
I feel sick, and I have a headache, so I'm off to bed. goodnight fellas and I fear after that performance it's good night FFC.
Can't blame the Astra Zeneca vaccine for this unfortunately.
Second best tonight. Leeds don't allow teams to rest on the ball.
We could not cope with this.
Disappointed and fearing the drop after this performance - games running out!
Leeds were so much better than us ,knocked up off our style of play - but we did have a period after we scored when they were on the back foot, but we lack a goalscorer,.We did have chance's but couldn't put them away.
Lookman was the biggest culprit.
That was our worst since earlier in the season -Leeds seemed the opponent we found it most difficult to play against, even compared to Chelsea, Spurs, Liverpool, City.
I think we began with a more attacking style than usual, and therefore couldn't cope with their attack .
I also think the City loss has knocked confidence.
But there's still hope - we can do a lot better
We've done so well to claw ourselves back into contention..
Good summary Matt10.
Despite odds of 6/1, it's nailed on Newcastle will get a flukey win over Brighton.
Gutted.
Can't disagree with any of these posts. Wrong decisions from all concerned tonight; Parker for tactics, selection and subs, various players on the pitch, and me for deciding to watch it!
Quote from: Deeping_white on March 19, 2021, 10:07:17 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on March 19, 2021, 10:05:03 PM
I'm in no way a Scott out person but, I think he got tonight all wrong tonight starting with the lineup. I love Robinson, he's an American, but tonight he was off. Would have like to have seen Tete start instead and Robinson come on as his sub later in the match.
The subs, I just don't get the subs tonight at all. I was happy to see RLC not start but was surprised to see Anguissa start over Lemina. I just think Lemina is more creative and is much better at defending. Speaking of defending, really get taking off Reed and bringing on RLC. Nor do I understand why take off Maja who was doing fantastic and leave Anguissa on? God I would have loved to have seen Mitro and Maja together.
Feeling like this was the match that might have ended the season. I need to regroup and get some mojo back for the next match.
Not sure what game you watched but both Frank and Lemina started, and Lemina gifted them the second goal?
I misspoke about Lemina. I know Anguissa Started, though he was useless tonight. Gave away passes, did not defend well at all, constantly pointed at players for other to defend and hardly created anything. He would have been the second sub for me right after taking off Robinson.
Forward balls to players with there backs to the Leeds goal met a lot of interceptions. There keeper was very accurate with his kicking to the wings
Quote from: Matt10 on March 19, 2021, 10:33:45 PM
Look, we know who we were playing today. A team that sets up with man-marking throughout the pitch. We had plenty of time to prepare for it. I doubt Parker's instructions were to say that "beat the first man in a 1v1"..." beat the second man in a 1v1"..." right, go ahead and beat the third man in a 1v1". Yet, that's exactly what most of our players tried to do. Every single one of them was guilty of it. I understand Leeds hound all areas of the pitch, but we do not have to keep playing to feet to be effective. Heck, we almost scored from a nothing back-pass of theirs. Instead, we yet again were looking for the perfect pass to indifferent targets. Mitro comes on and couldn't care less to be posted up against one single defender. Lookman stays as wide as possible when we're in the attack, so Ayling can just stay goal-side and never let him get inside. No switching of the wings between Lookman and Cav either so we could offer some options for Tosin and Andersen.
In the dying minutes, we have Lookman going offside, Lookman heading the ball to their keeper for no reason - and then Mitro doing the same. Sod the tactics, what was additionally poor was the decision making in crucial areas. Lookman wants to shoot despite 4 Leeds players in front of him (which means at least one of his teammates is open), and Mitro choosing to pull down their defender rather than stick his head into the ball for a sure goal.
Among some of the players' decision making, to me, this was Parker being completely out-coached because he was being too complicated again. Commentators said it at the start that when we played against City, Parker was playing the opponent - which is why we didn't have a striker on the pitch. Yet here we went again with Parker trying to sacrifice our strength of width for the sake of defending Leeds. There were no outlets for our defenders, let alone our central midfielders - which is why Lemina didn't learn his lesson the first time and coughed up the eventual match-winner.
Leeds were not an easy team, but neither was Man City. We are starting to see self-inflicted concessions now though, and that can only mean that parts of the system need tweaking again. I'm just not sure Parker is going to change things up for the 3rd time this season - but if we have more performances like tonight, it may be too late. I still believe, as I always will until the final whistle on final matchday, that we will stay up - but performances like these sure are tough to swallow. It's going to be a long international break.
I think we found leeds much tougher to play than v City, when we did quite well apart from a 15 minute period in the second half.
But we couldn't cope with Leeds closing us down style right from the start, though did manage to get back into it, and look as though we'd survived the onslaught, after scoring. But in the second half Leeds just upped the pace and looked so much faster and fitter than us.
We also failed to take the chances we did create, whereas Leeds took theirs well. We just don't have the quality attacking players of Leeds.
I think we will do better against other teams we play, when we can play our passing game more easily.
Think it demonstrated tonight why the Leeds manager earns £9m odd a year.
Realistically if Newcastle win tomorrow we are down
Quote from: SP on March 19, 2021, 10:59:53 PM
Think it demonstrated tonight why the Leeds manager earns £9m odd a year.
But look at the players they've bought.
Why don't our wingers, Cav and Ade, do what wingers used to do? Beat their man, get to the byline and cross the ball into the box. Neither Josh, Mitro or any other striker is going to score without that kind of service.
Ade in particular is beginning to look like a one trick pony. His one thought seems to be to beat the entire opposition defence on his own and score worldies.
Quote from: fulhamtom on March 19, 2021, 10:00:31 PM
For God's sake try one of our youngsters up front. The players we have aren't good enough. I want to support Parker but I am losing faith in him. By the way RLC is a total waste of space. Get rid of him now.
Don't worry we might put Cav back up top next week and RLC on the right.
