now that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd & Spurs have "withdrawn" from their "Super League" what do you think should be done?
I don't think that all should be forgiven, something needs to be done but what?
should they be punished?
what form should the punishment take?
or should only the "owners" be held to account?
punishing the "club" would unfairly? hurt managers, players and supporters so why should they be punished when they have done nothing wrong (apart from support the wrong club)
would "a big fine" really hurt them?
if deducting points, how many?
too many points and the "team" could be relegated, how would that impact next season for both the Premier and Championship?
as we currently only have 3 relegation places then potentially 3 of the six could be punished more than the others?
Quote from: whitejc on April 21, 2021, 01:03:24 PM
now that Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Man Utd & Spurs have "withdrawn" from their "Super League" what do you think should be done?
I don't think that all should be forgiven, something needs to be done but what?
should they be punished?
what form should the punishment take?
or should only the "owners" be held to account?
punishing the "club" would unfairly? hurt managers, players and supporters so why should they be punished when they have done nothing wrong (apart from support the wrong club)
would "a big fine" really hurt them?
if deducting points, how many?
too many points and the "team" could be relegated, how would that impact next season for both the Premier and Championship?
as we currently only have 3 relegation places then potentially 3 of the six could be punished more than the others?
Relegate them to the Championship. Simple as. It's essentially what they did to Juve after the match fixing scandal.
It's super simple. Relegate all 6. Bottom 3 stay up, top 2 from Champ and playoff winners go up as usual.
Quote from: JoelH5 on April 21, 2021, 01:15:22 PM
Relegate them to the Championship. Simple as. It's essentially what they did to Juve after the match fixing scandal.
It's super simple. Relegate all 6. Bottom 3 stay up, top 2 from Champ and playoff winners go up as usual.
but wouldn't this hurt 3 of the 6 more than the others?
you'd expect that even with their "second string" players any or all of them would walk the Championship?
that would leave 3 of them in the lower league and presumably they'd walk it the next season?
this would mean that other Championship clubs are also punished as they couldn't hope to gain promotion for a couple of seasons? this could also include any club being relegated from the Premiership
What I hope happens:
Expulsion from the Premier League and English Football League, fines of no less than 7 figures each, bans from European competition
50+1 rule introduced
What I think will actually happen:
5 figure fines, maybe a transfer ban. That's it.
Dock them points, better than fines, and can deny them the success they feel they are entitled to, for a season at at least.
They should have a 'Year of Shame' :012: playing under a name (not abusive) voted on by their nearest rival supporters. AFC Walham Green anyone.
Relegated to Division 2 and only 1 promotion place for 6 years.
I truly believe the FA will follow its time honoured practice of doing nothing on the basis that it will all die down over the close season. How many clubs have we seen breach the ffp rules, by selling grounds etc and no action taken.
Nothing will happen.
They'll be fined £500k each (i.e nothing for them) and that'll be that. We'll be back here in 2 years time doing it all over again.
Sadly they're just too powerful to do anything that will effect them as it should. Points deduction potentially next season or a ban from European football might be the best options.
Relegating them only has the impact of harming other teams in those leagues. Imagine we're in the championship and competing with City and Liverpool for the automatic spots. It's pointless.
#HoweIn
Well nothing will happen to them. The game is still unfairly biased to clubs with huge amounts of money and who have the ear of those that run our game so inefficiently.
It is a start and great to see the Super League idea dropped but let's not think this changes much. Those that run football badly and those that own the Big Six are still dependent on each other. Besides any proper punishment would only hurt the supporters and fans of the clubs after the fans were the ones who led the revolt.
What should happen? A possible ban of transfers in for a season. But not sure how legally this would work. But considering they all complain of luck of funds a ban on transfers would surely help them. In the future a wage ceiling perhaps. At the moment it is embarrassing just how much money players make.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on April 21, 2021, 02:42:11 PM
They'll be fined £500k each (i.e nothing for them) and that'll be that. We'll be back here in 2 years time doing it all over again.
Sadly they're just too powerful to do anything that will effect them as it should. Points deduction potentially next season or a ban from European football might be the best options.
Relegating them only has the impact of harming other teams in those leagues. Imagine we're in the championship and competing with City and Liverpool for the automatic spots. It's pointless.
#HoweIn
This
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on April 21, 2021, 02:38:01 PM
Nothing will happen.
Agreed. The politicians who "stopped it" will pat themselves on the back for being so clever, and the fans who bathe in the clubs' reflected glory will mindlessly pay increased admission and merchandise prices.
..until greed overtakes the owners again and they try the same kind of thing under a different guise in a couple of years
What about making each club donate 10 million each into grass roots sport. I doubt anything will be done though.
Drop them to league 2. Happened to Rangers because of their owner!
Relegate them to league 2 like what happened Rangers in Scotland. That way, the lower league teams will have their grounds full 6 times that season, allowing them to gain some financial support.
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on April 21, 2021, 01:35:43 PM
What I hope happens:
Expulsion from the Premier League and English Football League, fines of no less than 7 figures each, bans from European competition
50+1 rule introduced
What I think will actually happen:
5 figure fines, maybe a transfer ban. That's it.
i actually laughed so hard reading your punishment.
In essense you are saying their punishment should be exactly what they just tried to do hahahahahaa
They would leave the prem and europe if they had their way, thats what they wanted.
But you want that to be their punishment ? hahahaahhaahahahah
I would revoke their right to vote on league matters for at least a year and introduce a player wage cap with strict points reductions for noncompliance.
Punish the owners involved, severely, and put in legislation to give the fans much more power. The players and managers of these clubs had no role, and their efforts over the season should not be damaged. People here just smell blood because in the 'best' case scenario we wouldn't get relegated. We fully deserve to get relegated though, as shown over 32 games. If you've been protesting against a footballing system that does not punish failure, yet clamour for this then sorry but you're a hypocrite.
Introduce a football regulatory body with teeth
I thought about my answer long and hard . I honestly think relegation,points deduction etc etc will hurt the fans players and managers all of whom seem to had had no part in the wanting to join the ESL .
It is the deceitful owners who have been negotiating behind the fans,players and managers backs for god knows how long . It's this kind of practice how they became so rich in the first place.
I say hit them as hard as possible without them being able to pass it down the line to the people who love the game but don't love money as much as the owners/ chief execs etc
Quote from: bobbo on April 21, 2021, 06:48:24 PM
I thought about my answer long and hard . I honestly think relegation,points deduction etc etc will hurt the fans players and managers all of whom seem to had had no part in the wanting to join the ESL .
It is the deceitful owners who have been negotiating behind the fans,players and managers backs for god knows how long . It's this kind of practice how they became so rich in the first place.
I say hit them as hard as possible without them being able to pass it down the line to the people who love the game but don't love money as much as the owners/ chief execs etc
Previous rangers owner got them relegated to the bottom tier. Yeah it's not fair in the fans players etc but this will hit them hard and be great to see the lower league clubs make a few quid in the process!
Unfortunately nothing will happen. They should be relegated to league 2
Quote from: St Eve on April 21, 2021, 08:03:01 PM
Unfortunately nothing will happen. They should be relegated to league 2
ifear you're right st eve
They are so rich already and yet got even more greedy, without a thought/care for anyone else!
Therefore, the punishment should be big fines that are used for lower leagues/grass roots football as these are the the areas that would have been devastated by the new league.
Then they should have points deductions and either transfer bans or wage ceilings put on them for at least one season.
If it was my decision though, I would relegate them to division 2 - promote teams up the leagues to rep,ace and let div 2 teams get the benefit of large income for a season or two.
Quote from: Sammyffc on April 21, 2021, 06:08:13 PM
Quote from: Neutral Zone Ultra on April 21, 2021, 01:35:43 PM
What I hope happens:
Expulsion from the Premier League and English Football League, fines of no less than 7 figures each, bans from European competition
50+1 rule introduced
What I think will actually happen:
5 figure fines, maybe a transfer ban. That's it.
i actually laughed so hard reading your punishment.
In essense you are saying their punishment should be exactly what they just tried to do hahahahahaa
They would leave the prem and europe if they had their way, thats what they wanted.
But you want that to be their punishment ? hahahaahhaahahahah
Absolutely. Believe it or not I am actually in favour of a Super League in the sense that I want the greedy clubs and their parasite owners out of our leagues. I'd want them out, and then all partners to boycott/refuse to support any future ventures/leagues that they'd try to pull subsequently. Obviously a pipe dream but my point is still that yes, I would punish them by letting them have their cake and force feeding it to them.
If 'nothing severe' happens, it will set a precedent; they will just try to do it again. The 'shameful' part is that they did it under the cloak of 'COVID'.
The obvious punishment is to be commensurate with Rangers or lower League sides who have broken rules. That would mean a ban from Europe (definite) and a relegation or points loss plus a fine.
What will actually happen is a promise to try to understand them better.
Love to see a hard line though, relegation would be amazing. A few of them have been down not so long ago.
Yeah so they will give fines to the Executives who own the clubs. That way they can line their (The PL) own pockets further and wont relegate the teams thus keeping TV rights revenue high also to further line their pockets.
Wigan were relegated. No one cared about their players or fans. One rule for the "big 6" another for everyone else.
I would deduct points. Probably 30. They then have to fight to avoid the drop which seems doable but none of them would be winning anything this season or next as the pressure would be immense
I have actually just emailed Mr Mackintosh to explain why I feel he and the club should be lobbying for the "Big 6" to be relegated from the league.
I'm for the hard line - exile and blacklist the owners; fine each club the equivalent of their last five years' expenditure; nullify all player contracts (making them free to look for work elsewhere); throw the clubs out of the league and force them to rejoin via an appropriate level of at least double figures. Let them all see what being treated 'fairly' means outside of the PL and let them suffer the long journey back if they can make it.
Of course we will miss them all six of them - for a second or so each.
