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Title: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Riversider on July 25, 2021, 01:05:33 PM
Try as I might I can't find a place in our starting eleven, can anybody configure an eleven where Reid features  ?
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: FulhamStu on July 25, 2021, 01:18:08 PM
In one of the front 3 positions.  Wilson Mitro BDR.  He will obviously have comp for Cav, Knockeart, Kebano and Carv, as will Wilson.  We will I expect lose somebody, prob on loan if we can't get money from perm move away.  It's the same at the back. 
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on July 25, 2021, 01:20:10 PM
Or if we play 442 he could play just off mitro and do all the running for mitro 
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Jimmy Hill on July 25, 2021, 01:20:37 PM
Was thinking about this

                   Gazzinga
      Tete.       Hector.     Toisn
Ried.       Reed.      Anguissa   Robinson

     Wilson.    Mitro.        Cavliero



Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: jayffc on July 25, 2021, 01:24:36 PM
Currently, you could try and invert him on the LW, where we are light on quality imo as I dont love Cav and Knockaert as starters. Would rather move one of them or even both on if we could bring in some quality there.

Kamara and kebano fine for depth but not setting the world alight so again if we can move 2 of the above on and bring in 1 higher quality winger I'd be happy with that

So you could go BDR left wing with Robinson overlapping.

He has also played as a CAM before so not out the question he could play a bit there give Cairney's fitness is a massive question mark.

All in all he's a great utility attacking player to have at this level and I'd be happy to have him on the bench as an option. Most likely though is he'll be battling to win back the RW spot with Wilson.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: PaulJ123 on July 25, 2021, 01:46:19 PM
Think he's a bench player really, useful to have as can play in a lot of positions but shouldn't starting for me.

Controversial but I'd prefer Cav playing LW. Inverted wingers will suit our fullbacks better.

I'd like to see:

Rodak
Tete Tosin Kongolo Robinson
Reed Zambo/Grimes
Wilson Carvalho Cav
Mitro


Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: jayffc on July 25, 2021, 01:59:25 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on July 25, 2021, 01:46:19 PM
Think he's a bench player really, useful to have as can play in a lot of positions but shouldn't starting for me.

Controversial but I'd prefer Cav playing LW. Inverted wingers will suit our fullbacks better.

I'd like to see:

Rodak
Tete Tosin Kongolo Robinson
Reed Zambo/Grimes
Wilson Carvalho Cav
Mitro





Another Vote for this line up

That said,as mentioned, I want a quality LW and CAM option brought in
Then a quality CF alternative to Mitro. Seems Muniz if the option up top we want. No signs of a move for a CAM though - perhaps Silva thinks Seri might stay and have a comeback season. The CM rumour suggests to me were likely to see Zambo/Reed out the door.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Deeping_white on July 25, 2021, 02:18:32 PM
Play him as a #10 behind Mitro which is where he got all of his goals for Bristol City. TC won't play 46 games so you can play him as an #8 when fit and switch it up with BDR closer to the centre forward in other games. He can play wide as well but I'd want him floating around the forwards because this season the impetus will be on us to break teams down as they're going to sit deep as much as possible
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Cookie6262 on July 25, 2021, 02:27:14 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on July 25, 2021, 02:18:32 PM
Play him as a #10 behind Mitro which is where he got all of his goals for Bristol City. TC won't play 46 games so you can play him as an #8 when fit and switch it up with BDR closer to the centre forward in other games. He can play wide as well but I'd want him floating around the forwards because this season the impetus will be on us to break teams down as they're going to sit deep as much as possible


Exactly this  :plus one:
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: General on July 25, 2021, 03:03:03 PM
Quote from: Jimmy Hill on July 25, 2021, 01:20:37 PM
Was thinking about this

                   Gazzinga
      Tete.       Hector.     Toisn
Ried.       Reed.      Anguissa   Robinson

     Wilson.    Mitro.        Cavliero





Swap out cavaleiro and put BDR there.

We're light in midfield in my opinion. Cairney isn't reliable these days due to injury, anguissa redeemed himself last season a bit but still has a tendency to go missing in games. Seri, well so far 3 or four managers have had him and hardly played him so that doesn't bode well. Johansen was the most combative and ready made for this league. Knockaert and cavaleiroblow hot and cold too often and lack finishing product (says a lot that Wilson goes straight into the lineup, although hopefully marcos and boa can get our wingers firing on all cylinders).. onomah needs to bulk up a bit in my opinion. Neeskens can do a job at this level, but I'm so used to him being a sub over a starter.

Goals from midfield was something we've missed recently so Wilson is a plus in that department and also from set pieces.

I'd be looking for another forward, CM with a bit of creativity and another winger if I had the choice.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Statto on July 25, 2021, 03:06:44 PM
With anguissa likely going, Reed unlikely to play 46 games, Grimes nothing more than a rumour, Onomah pretty average and Carvalho a mere prospect, I reckon there's plenty of space in our Central midfield as it stands and agree with Deeping that Reid is probably the best candidate for the advanced role there.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: filham on July 25, 2021, 03:47:05 PM
We all have a lot of respect for Reid, he has skill , always gives us max. effort and almost has pace. However he  has a habit of regularly missing half chances and really cannot be used as a front man in a team looking for promotion. He can best serve us on the bench as an impact sub to be used where most needed, he can operate in a number of positions.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: LC on July 25, 2021, 04:27:49 PM
Surprised by many of the comments on here. He was probably our most consistent player last year (excluding loanees) and scored a decent number of goals in the PL. BDR will start on the right or in a number 10 position. Wilson will start played the whole of last season as a number 10, so he'll either play there or on the right. Both BDR and Wilson must start.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: filham on July 25, 2021, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: LC on July 25, 2021, 04:27:49 PM
Surprised by many of the comments on here. He was probably our most consistent player last year (excluding loanees) and scored a decent number of goals in the PL. BDR will start on the right or in a number 10 position. Wilson will start played the whole of last season as a number 10, so he'll either play there or on the right. Both BDR and Wilson must start.
Sorry , but Ried did not score sufficient goals for a front three player and as I saw it he was second only to Cav. for missed chances. Our problem all season was the lack of punch up front and Reid and Cav. have to be the main culprits.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: filham on July 25, 2021, 05:17:51 PM
I am thinking of :-
                                                         Rodac
                                       Tete      Tosin    Ream  Robinson
                                                              Reed
                                                     Anguissa     Cairney
                                             Wilson      Mitro     Carvalho

Last season's front three are stained with the terrible record of only nine goals scored at the Cottage and just have to be changed. 
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: LC on July 25, 2021, 05:23:09 PM
Quote from: filham on July 25, 2021, 05:07:54 PM
Quote from: LC on July 25, 2021, 04:27:49 PM
Surprised by many of the comments on here. He was probably our most consistent player last year (excluding loanees) and scored a decent number of goals in the PL. BDR will start on the right or in a number 10 position. Wilson will start played the whole of last season as a number 10, so he'll either play there or on the right. Both BDR and Wilson must start.
Sorry , but Ried did not score sufficient goals for a front three player and as I saw it he was second only to Cav. for missed chances. Our problem all season was the lack of punch up front and Reid and Cav. have to be the main culprits.

He played many different positions for us and was one of our better players. But yes we needed more firepower
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: MartyFFC on July 25, 2021, 05:28:41 PM
For me it's 50:50 between BDR and Cav for a place in the starting XI. Be good to have some healthy competition for places.....
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: filham on July 25, 2021, 05:51:13 PM
Quote from: MartyFFC on July 25, 2021, 05:28:41 PM
For me it's 50:50 between BDR and Cav for a place in the starting XI. Be good to have some healthy competition for places.....
I don't think the two of them together scored ten goals last season in spite of being regulars, they need to be replaced and relegated to the bench.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: MartyFFC on July 25, 2021, 06:19:41 PM
I think BDR scored 7 which is far from impressive, however it has to be taken into context i.e. playing in a team that wasn't interested in moving the ball forwards. I definitely think BDR can bag 15 in the championship.....
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2021, 06:23:29 PM
Didn't BDR also play as a wing back last season?

He's a good player, especially at this level and will be in the side.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Southcoastffc on July 25, 2021, 06:30:42 PM
With 46 games there'll likely be plenty of opportunity for all 4 forwards and the midfielders listed as such on the club web site (Mitro, AK, BDR, Cav as forwards, midfield Wilson, TC, Kebano, Seri,  Anguissa, Knockaert, Reed, Onomah, Carvalho)   Take out at least a couple of names - Seri? Anguissa? - assume a few injuries and it's not hard IMO to imagine BDR playing a meaningful role this season, even without considering wing back..
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2021, 06:33:17 PM
I mean, the guy is streets ahead of Kamara in every single possible way aside from a bit of pace.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: FFC In Oz on July 25, 2021, 06:37:11 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2021, 06:33:17 PM
I mean, the guy is streets ahead of Kamara in every single possible way aside from a bit of pace.

Agreed.

I'm looking forward to seeing Bobby line up forward and not at wing back like he was all of last season ...
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Finnans Right Peg on July 25, 2021, 07:04:35 PM
Has to play a free role beside Mitro
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: filham on July 25, 2021, 07:59:53 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2021, 06:23:29 PM
Didn't BDR also play as a wing back last season?

He's a good player, especially at this level and will be in the side.
Yes he had a few good games as a wing back and demonstrated his versatility as well as his willingness to fight for the team in any role he was given. Regret to say however that he also showed over a number of games that he is no goal poacher.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Somerset Fulham on July 25, 2021, 08:05:47 PM
Agree that he absolutely isn't a poacher but I also think that he is one player who can take a huge amount of confidence from the way he performed last season. He's a good footballer.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: We Are Premier League on July 25, 2021, 08:50:54 PM
                 Mitro
       Cav    Reid   Wilson
         Cairney Reed
Bryan Tosin  Mawson Tete
                   GK
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on July 25, 2021, 11:39:17 PM
As a sub to bring on for Mitro, or to start up front if Mitro is injured or more likely suspended. As others have mentioned if Cav is poor then he could play on the wings but I really don't want to see the return to his wing back role again.
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: love4ffc on July 26, 2021, 04:57:49 AM
BDR started tonight in the Gold Cup quarter finals for Jamaica against the United States as the number 10.  This was BDR's only second match in the gold cup as he had tested positive for covid.  He played very well and looked extremely lively for the entire match.  Really looking forward to seeing him next season.  Jamaica lost 1v0. 

On a side note, Hector was once again riding the pine and was an unused sub. 
Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: AnOldBrownie on July 26, 2021, 05:12:57 AM
I thought BDR had a good 15 minutes tonight...but most of Jamaica's first half attacks were from long balls.   I thought as the game went on he became less and less impactful.

And I swear he's got to be the slowest player on the Jamaican side.  Looking forward to him coming back though, because I think he can contribute for us this season.


I wonder if he'll have to self isolate for a bit when he gets back to London.


Title: Re: Where does Bobby Reid fit in ?
Post by: RufusBrevettatemyhamster on July 26, 2021, 05:19:29 AM
I cant see Cairney getting regular playing time to be honest. To long out the first team.