I'm confused
The Argie looks super sketchy to me
Agreed
Agreed
Not confident at all on crosses, Rodak for me Saturday.
+1
ASAP
His passing out is nice, but did not look confident for that last 10
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I thought Rodak had a finger injury, hence being careful with recovery?
I agree. Zero trust in his ability to actually save a shot.
He's been watching too many videos of Don Areola punching the ball like a boss and wanted to have a go. I think Rodak will be in as soon as Gazza drops a clanger that leads to a goal because even though Rodak is better and deserves to be starting, no manager is going to chop their keeper so soon into the season as it sends a bad message.
He goes down like the Belgrano
+1 Gazzaniga has so little to do and I appreciate Matt Smith is the tallest and most physical player in the league but his decision making for coming for that last ball in particular was worryingly poor.
Goal was not his fault, but agreed. Overall he doesn't inspire too much confidence
Give him some time. He's barely had anything to do, and I don't think he could have done anything about any of the goals we've conceded.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
Give him some time. He's barely had anything to do, and I don't think he could have done anything about any of the goals we've conceded.
Very fair point - The goals conceded have been one-offs and completely against the run of play, not much he could do with them.
Quote from: St. Andrews White on August 17, 2021, 09:44:54 PM
His passing out is nice, but did not look confident for that last 10
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I actually thought his distribution was very ordinary. Really can't see that he's any sort of upgrade on Rodak who must feel gutted not to be starting.
The OP is spot on. I ain't convinced by Gazzaniga one bit.
Gazzaniga hasn't been able to do anything about any of the three goals, but he looks weak coming off his line. I think he made one good save early at Hudds, but overall, I haven't seen anything in three games to feel great about, but it's still early days.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
Give him some time. He's barely had anything to do, and I don't think he could have done anything about any of the goals we've conceded.
I agree he should be given some time and that he wasn't at fault for their goal. He just doesn't give me any great confidence and as I said on my previous post I didn't rate his distribution much. But let's not get on his back, he definitely needs to be given a run.
Hold on....we haven't lost a game yet...... Rodak will get his chance
I thought the first punch was a good one, and he won't be the last keeper to lose out to Matt Smith this season. Plus he's not had a sniff with any of the three goals coneded so far?
Gazzaniga has had little to do in our three matches but some of what he has had to do hasn't been done too well.
Time to bring Rodak in before silly points are lost.
so far not so good for the new keeper IMO
I know it is early days but he has to deal with hi balls into the box and he seems not to have a clue and rather than command his box, he seems to go AWOL
Rodak way superior.
I'd bring rodak in for the cup game and if he does well he keeps the spot. Hopefully that won't destroy Gaza's confidence should marek get injured or something
EVDS flapped at the ball sometimes and conceded soft goals. He's played 3 games for us and he's becoming this seasons go to player to moan about.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
Give him some time. He's barely had anything to do, and I don't think he could have done anything about any of the goals we've conceded.
Give him some time ?
Why not give Rodak some time hes earnt it and deserves it
Surely
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
Give him some time. He's barely had anything to do, and I don't think he could have done anything about any of the goals we've conceded.
The concern is that his command of his area is mediocre. He does not try and catch the ball at its highest point which is basics.
He should make his penalty area his front garden and nobody should enter it unless he says so.
I fear he will eventually cost us valuable points as he will not inspire confidence in his defenders. Time will tell but Rodak is the better all round keeper for me. Gazza flaps at the ball far too much to be playing at this level.
Rodak back for me too. Asap.
Gazza's the epitome of a "dodgy keeper"
If Silva thinks Gazza is the best keeper... then he's the keeper. I have 100% faith in the manager
I would be inclined to bring back Rodak. It is early and harsh to drop Gazza but we have faced 5 shots on goal this season and 3 of them have gone in! However, for me, the gloves were Rodak's to lose, not the other way around.
Tonight's goal conceded was the first where I didn't like what I saw from him, I know it was a freak deflection more than a shot, but he had no business being so wrong footed, maybe we were spoiled by Areola's reading of the game, but it looked like Gazza had started running to his right to collect the misplaced knockdown from Smith and was then wrong-footed when the ball came back to his left. But if the ball doesn't hit Afobe, its heading to a safe area, which he should know, so there is no good reason for him to pursue the ball rather than stay set for a shot.
It feels a bit like when things started to turn against Betts, there were not really any clangers, but, one way or another, everything just ended up going in.
Add me to the list of people who thinks Rodak should be our number 1.
He hasn't looked convincing to me. Rodak needs to start ASAP
Sorry but let the bloke settle in, hasn't been here a month yet, played 4 games for us and we haven't lost, can't blame him for any of the goals that the team have conceded. He is a lot more vocal than Rodak with a lot more experience.
I am sure we had the same discussions when Betts was dropped for Fabri then Rico, then last season Rodak dropped for Alfonso.
There is no trophies / promotions won on just being a fan favourite. Rodak is a good keeper, but at the moment Silva thinks he's not ready yet. Let's get behind this team and enjoy the ride!
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 17, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
Give him some time. He's barely had anything to do, and I don't think he could have done anything about any of the goals we've conceded.
Very fair point - The goals conceded have been one-offs and completely against the run of play, not much he could do with them.
Disagree, as a goalkeeper myself, gazziniga was wrongly positioned for the middlesborough goal , half a step left was needed, and if so had have been stood where the ball traveled, instead he concentrated on covering the near post and got caught out.
Quote from: Black, White and Fred on August 17, 2021, 10:11:47 PM
I'd bring rodak in for the cup game and if he does well he keeps the spot. Hopefully that won't destroy Gaza's confidence should marek get injured or something
:plus one:
Watched him live against Boro and he was flapping around, yelling things at his defence off the ball and everyone was just ignoring him.
He's a liability!
Has so little to do but when we need him for that one shot on target he's out of position!! Be it too far over to his near post against Boro, or strolling 10 yards off his line again today!
Thought Rodak was number 1 and Gazzaniga playing until he's fit? A good number 2 for sure but Rodaks gotta be put back in when fully fit. Why give him the number 1 shirt?
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on August 17, 2021, 09:58:37 PM
Hold on....we haven't lost a game yet...... Rodak will get his chance
That's precisely the point, he doesn't hold on he flaps at the ball.
3 great performances ,7 points and a superb brand of football. I think Silva knows what he is doing and has his reasons for his choice of goalkeeper.
Rodak is clearly our best overall Keeper at the club. He has a skill set from distribution to shot stopping and dealing with high crosses which provides confidence to the back line.
I am pretty certain once he is given his chance he will keep the jersey.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 17, 2021, 09:45:14 PM
He's been watching too many videos of Don Areola punching the ball like a boss and wanted to have a go. I think Rodak will be in as soon as Gazza drops a clanger that leads to a goal because even though Rodak is better and deserves to be starting, no manager is going to chop their keeper so soon into the season as it sends a bad message.
[/quoteQuote from: Deeping_white on August 17, 2021, 09:45:14 PM
He's been watching too many videos of Don Areola punching the ball like a boss and wanted to have a go. I think Rodak will be in as soon as Gazza drops a clanger that leads to a goal because even though Rodak is better and deserves to be starting, no manager is going to chop their keeper so soon into the season as it sends a bad message.
And when Rodak drops a clanger he gets dropped as well does he? If we want a solid defence who can work together we pick a back 5 and play it week in week out. Dropping keepers on a whim doesn't do anyone's confidence any good as Rodak will know that as soon as cocks up he's out of the team.
Based on those 3 performances he is no better than Rodak thats for sure, however the easy answer is that Silva prefers PG for now. So fr 7 points form 3 games isnt too bad so happy to stick with who he selects
I'm not convinced at all about Gazzaniga, but to be fair to him, he's had basically nothing to do for 4 games. The goals scored haven't really been his fault, but he isn't inspiring any confident IMO.
Rodak will get his chance to impress in the cup. I hope he does because I agree he's the better keeper, though we're spoilt for choice in that position.
Millwall's goal was lucky. almost point black.
Gazza is a quality signing.....far more experienced then Rodak Gazza should be number 1 in my view.
Quote from: Tooting legend on August 18, 2021, 09:20:38 AM
Gazza is a quality signing.....far more experienced then Rodak Gazza should be number 1 in my view.
Gazzaniga has 74 senior appearances and is 29 years old
Rodak has 157 senior appearances and is 24 years old
I think it's a bit early to start calling for Rodak but I understand the concerns of others based on what I've witnessed so far.
We should 100% have Rodak in goal. The chief priority is commanding the box. Rodak is far better on crosses, and he is OUR keeper, Fulham produced. So let's keep him, there is no area Gazza is clearly better in.
Maybe just maybe, rodaks finger injury is still not fully healed.
Quote from: clarkey on August 18, 2021, 09:50:13 AM
We should 100% have Rodak in goal. The chief priority is commanding the box. Rodak is far better on crosses, and he is OUR keeper, Fulham produced. So let's keep him, there is no area Gazza is clearly better in.
I have great time for Rodak but whilst this thread questions aspects of Gazza's goalkeeping no one has yet pointed out that Rodak's footballing skills are poor. I think that was SP's thinking bringing in Areola and MS choosing Gazza. It's the modern style of an Allison etc to distribute from the back
Quote from: JimOG on August 18, 2021, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: clarkey on August 18, 2021, 09:50:13 AM
We should 100% have Rodak in goal. The chief priority is commanding the box. Rodak is far better on crosses, and he is OUR keeper, Fulham produced. So let's keep him, there is no area Gazza is clearly better in.
I have great time for Rodak but whilst this thread questions aspects of Gazza's goalkeeping no one has yet pointed out that Rodak's footballing skills are poor. I think that was SP's thinking bringing in Areola and MS choosing Gazza. It's the modern style of an Allison etc to distribute from the back
But Gazza's footballing skills were unimpressive, his distribution was very average and he showed little creativity in his choice of where and who to pass out to. I am happy to see him given a bit of a run but right now I cannot see a single area where he is better.
Areola wasn't an instant success, it took him time to settle in, granted the defence was poor.
Quote from: Willham on August 17, 2021, 11:58:32 PM
Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 17, 2021, 09:48:30 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 17, 2021, 09:47:21 PM
Give him some time. He's barely had anything to do, and I don't think he could have done anything about any of the goals we've conceded.
Very fair point - The goals conceded have been one-offs and completely against the run of play, not much he could do with them.
Disagree, as a goalkeeper myself, gazziniga was wrongly positioned for the middlesborough goal , half a step left was needed, and if so had have been stood where the ball traveled, instead he concentrated on covering the near post and got caught out.
And if he'd been beaten at the near post people would be saying how a goalkeeper should never beaten at his near post. The ball went through Tosin's legs so he may have been unsighted. Surely as a goalkeeper you can appreciate that.
Quote from: Twig on August 18, 2021, 10:41:32 AM
Quote from: JimOG on August 18, 2021, 10:07:48 AM
Quote from: clarkey on August 18, 2021, 09:50:13 AM
We should 100% have Rodak in goal. The chief priority is commanding the box. Rodak is far better on crosses, and he is OUR keeper, Fulham produced. So let's keep him, there is no area Gazza is clearly better in.
I have great time for Rodak but whilst this thread questions aspects of Gazza's goalkeeping no one has yet pointed out that Rodak's footballing skills are poor. I think that was SP's thinking bringing in Areola and MS choosing Gazza. It's the modern style of an Allison etc to distribute from the back
But Gazza's footballing skills were unimpressive, his distribution was very average and he showed little creativity in his choice of where and who to pass out to. I am happy to see him given a bit of a run but right now I cannot see a single area where he is better.
Understand that up to a point but the outfield players are creating a lot themselves currently.
We just need that one shot on target that comes in to be saved by a safe, solid goalkeeper. I don't have faith in Gazza to be in the right place at the right time regardless of how quiet the game has been for him. He doesn't appear to have good positioning, he is also quite an anxious goalkeeper off the ball.
We were playing so high up the pitch on occasions Gazz must have wondered where we were as I believe he's shortsighted.
Think he has very recently become a father too. Maybe some think that shouldn't affect a performance, but maybe it has.
He won't be dropped unless he gets injured. He will probably be the worst player on the pitch a lot of weeks but they'll be getting results.
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I agree that Rodak should be given a chance. As someone pointed out, 5 shots on target over 3 games, and 3 goals allowed. Some point out that the three he conceded were very difficult chances, but I disagree a bit, the goal v Boro allowed I thought could have been played much better. And the goal v Millwall, though more a deflection than an actual shot, caught him flat footed and not anticipating well, but agreed, a tough chance. Some also point out he hasn't had much to do back there, but those times he has had to make a play, he has not looked good, especially on those punch out attempts, and has generally looked unsure of himself.
All that said, sure, we haven't lost a game yet. BUT, good teams try to improve themselves all the time. I think maybe being a bit proactive in this case is the right course. Rodak for me.
no.one has seen rodak play for quite a while and still people think they know better than Silva ! Laughable.
Quote from: bobby01 on August 18, 2021, 09:50:40 AM
Maybe just maybe, rodaks finger injury is still not fully healed.
I hope that's the case
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 18, 2021, 09:08:58 AM
I'm not convinced at all about Gazzaniga, but to be fair to him, he's had basically nothing to do for 4 games. The goals scored haven't really been his fault, but he isn't inspiring any confident IMO.
Tend to agree, and his habit of time wasting isn't doing us any favours.
I know that it has only been 3 games, that I have seen, and none of the pre season, however as an ex goalkeeper myself, I can only state that Gazz does not inspire confidence in me.
It is difficult to judge in a limited period of time however I may start referring him to Dracula as he would appear to hate crosses or utterly butterly as on the rare occasion he does come for a cross, he cannot catch it!
We were blessed by the legend that was AA last season and possibly expecting too much however for me Rodak should be No1 and starting (injury not withstanding).
As an ex Latymer under 11 goalkeeper, I can confidentally say AA is the best I have ever seen at FFC