Well I'm going to start by wishing Huddersfield all the best in the final. They throughly deserve to be promoted having finished third in the Table. They were the form team at the end of the season having only lost 2 league games from mid November. Away to Millwall 2-0 then asked to play Bournemouth two days later which they lost at home 0-3.
I also think it would be in our best interest if they were to succeed. I've also noticed that forest seemed to be getting all the attention so hopefully that will put all the pressure on them.
I am behind Forrest, think they played good football and not quite so far for us to travel next season.
Of course whoever wins immediately becomes favourites for relegation next season but today will be great for their fans.
Forest are the best footballing side, so hopefully they will succeed.
The richest prize in football until 'Kylian Mbappé's New Deal'.
Whoever wins this, HAVE to be one of the teams we finish ahead of next season if we are to survive. I'd add Bournemouth and of the others I think maybe Southampton, Brentford (if they lose Eriksen) and possibly Leeds. The rest of the teams are miles ahead in terms of squad depth and settled formations and tactics etc.
Potentially legendary weekend in London for the Huddersfield fans with the Rugby League final at Spurs today.
Quote from: Thailand Mick on May 28, 2022, 10:35:37 AM
Well I'm going to start by wishing Huddersfield all the best in the final. They throughly deserve to be promoted having finished third in the Table. They were the form team at the end of the season having only lost 2 league games from mid November. Away to Millwall 2-0 then asked to play Bournemouth two days later which they lost at home 0-3.
I also think it would be in our best interest if they were to succeed. I've also noticed that forest seemed to be getting all the attention so hopefully that will put all the pressure on them.
Forest have been getting bummed up by the media this season, on a level we didn't even get when we got to the europa final. Good luck to the Yorkshire men I say.
I like Both teams and both managers so I'm staying neutral, would be nice to see Forest back up in the prem tho.
This game is far more interesting to me then the champlons league final today
Quote from: perry geyton on May 28, 2022, 04:50:57 PM
I like Both teams and both managers so I'm staying neutral, would be nice to see Forest back up in the prem tho.
This game is far more interesting to me then the champions league final today
AMEN!!!
Really looking forward to this. Have a feeling Forest will win by the odd goal.
Likewise they have both done well and would not disgrace themselves whoever goes up
Like us, either will do well to survive in the Prem next season, but we'll hopefully enjoy trying.
As a local resident, I'm fairly confident it will be more peaceful around Wembley this afternoon than it was in Paris last night.
Jon Moss taking charge of his final game, lets hope the new refs are decent.
Not particularly impressed by either team so far, they both look like they belong in the Championship.
Quote from: bencher on May 29, 2022, 05:01:39 PM
Not particularly impressed by either team so far, they both look like they belong in the Championship.
I remember people saying the same in the Brentford Fulham final to be fair.
Poor game of football so far.
Edit: 0-1 Forest. OG.
Huddersfield will need to change their game & come out of defence.
Quote from: Wingnut on May 29, 2022, 05:12:14 PM
Poor game of football so far.
Edit: 0-1 Forest. OG.
+1
Quote from: bencher on May 29, 2022, 05:01:39 PM
Not particularly impressed by either team so far, they both look like they belong in the Championship.
I agree, despite Forest being 1 up...
Huddersfield dominating midfield but their final through ball is poor so far.
Blimey, thats a pen all day long.
Agreed -and certainly not a yellow card !
I was also amazed that wasn't a penalty.
An even bigger pen shout not given
This is a farce.
I'm not usually one for conspiracy theroies but...
The first was close. This one was a clear penalty, and I can't understand how VAR has not reviewed it.
VAR fails yet again. I'd be fuming if I was a Huddersfield fan.
If I were Huddersfield I would be assembling a team of lawyers. Corruption in motion.
They need to get this sodding keeper off too.
Fixed
Quote from: Blawarmy on May 29, 2022, 06:18:02 PM
Fixed
Perhaps, but you can't fix the poor play by Huddersfield throughout the match, they have barely produced a single effort of note.
Quote from: bencher on May 29, 2022, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on May 29, 2022, 06:18:02 PM
Fixed
Perhaps, but you can't fix the poor play by Huddersfield throughout the match, they have barely produced a single effort of note.
You can choose to ignore 1, if not arguably 2 stonewall pens. And Forest have hardly been scintillating.
Huddersfield have been rubbish.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 29, 2022, 06:24:34 PM
Huddersfield have been rubbish.
Forest haven't been great either
True enough.
Missed most of the second half but not convinced by what I saw of Forest...it will be interesting to see how their recruitment goes..
A poor game and quite typical of these affairs. I have to congratulate Forest, who have done superbly to go up having been bottom. It will be interesting next season.
The Nottingham Forest owner has mafia ties. Something to ponder with these baffling decisions.
Quote from: bencher on May 29, 2022, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on May 29, 2022, 06:18:02 PM
Fixed
Perhaps, but you can't fix the poor play by Huddersfield throughout the match, they have barely produced a single effort of note.
Don't think Huddersfield actually had a shot on target .
And Forest played for the 1-0 - getting lucky in the process .
Quote from: Tabby on May 29, 2022, 06:29:27 PM
The Nottingham Forest owner has mafia ties. Something to ponder with these baffling decisions.
He has had allegations of match fixing before in Greece .
Those who were irritated at the refereeing over the penalty shouts, may I remind you that Sorba Thomas twice conned us this season. Firstly he exaggerated to the referee to get Harry Wilson sent off, and then in the home fixture he jumped into Rodak and dived to get a penalty. So I feel no sorrow for them.
Quote from: Tabby on May 29, 2022, 06:29:27 PM
The Nottingham Forest owner has mafia ties. Something to ponder with these baffling decisions.
Ours sells car parts. No wonder we get f all decisions
Quote from: Watford_fc on May 29, 2022, 06:30:04 PM
Quote from: bencher on May 29, 2022, 06:19:54 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on May 29, 2022, 06:18:02 PM
Fixed
Perhaps, but you can't fix the poor play by Huddersfield throughout the match, they have barely produced a single effort of note.
Don't think Huddersfield actually had a shot on target .
And Forest played for the 1-0 - getting lucky in the process .
They should have had 1 at least if the officials did their job.
And Moss is in charge of var from next season, god help us all.
Is he particularly wealthy? I would guess that we are ahead of them in those stakes, but I've no idea about FFP.
Well done Forest, make the most of your time in the PL as I hope we do.
Congrats to Forest! They deserve it.
Quote from: bobby01 on May 29, 2022, 06:33:47 PM
And Moss is in charge of var from next season, god help us all.
That's us done for. I watched Villa v Liverpool and he was absolutely shocking.
The Huddersfield big wigs with faces like thunder as the trophy is presented.
Quote from: SP on May 29, 2022, 06:46:26 PM
The Huddersfield big wigs with faces like thunder as the trophy is presented.
always nice to see a good loser.
Quote from: bencher on May 29, 2022, 06:30:58 PM
Those who were irritated at the refereeing over the penalty shouts, may I remind you that Sorba Thomas twice conned us this season. Firstly he exaggerated to the referee to get Harry Wilson sent off, and then in the home fixture he jumped into Rodak and dived to get a penalty. So I feel no sorrow for them.
I'm on the same page as you. Karma...
Forest with 5 players on loan they got a lot of recruitment work to do
Forest awful again today and saved by officials for the 20th time this season, dodgy owner has clearly put the pressure on a lot of people to get them up this season. Huddersfield robbed.
We absolutely don't need him Neco Williams does sign for us, but Djed Spence is a very good footballer.
Quote from: Nero on May 29, 2022, 06:52:21 PM
Forest with 5 players on loan they got a lot of recruitment work to do
Wonder how much they have available to spend, hopefully less than we have under FFP rules?
Thought it was a poor game overall with Forest showing a little more attacking instinct than Huddersfield's more painstaking build up even as time was running out. I cannot understand how Forest got away with those penalty shouts. The first VAR showed a clear contact but then they replayed the poorest view over and over to set our minds into believing the referee was right. The second shout didn't even get to VAR - were they on a tea break?
I can see why people buy into conspiracy theories but this wasn't a particularly spellbinding match and I congratulate Forest for the own goal success and commiserate with Huddersfield for the raw deal they got after it. Pity it couldn't have been a match like the nine goal thriller between Wrexham and Grimsby yesterday which finished 4-5. That was a football match.
Quote from: bencher on May 29, 2022, 06:30:58 PM
Those who were irritated at the refereeing over the penalty shouts, may I remind you that Sorba Thomas twice conned us this season. Firstly he exaggerated to the referee to get Harry Wilson sent off, and then in the home fixture he jumped into Rodak and dived to get a penalty. So I feel no sorrow for them.
Totally agree, cheating diving toe rag he was
Weird when we consider that even brushing against Stirling & co inside the box always results in a collapse & penalty awarded.
Quote from: SP on May 29, 2022, 07:15:15 PM
Weird when we consider that even brushing against Stirling & co inside the box always results in a collapse & penalty awarded.
Wonder if Forest defenders will be allowed to physically bundle you over in the box next season, like they were today? [emoji848]
Great seasons fro both teams and a wonderful story for both. But on the day if Fulham had the decisions Huddersfield had go against them. I would be giving up on the game completely. The first is a clear penalty and VAR I can only think were being kind to the old retiring ref. The second one was iffy but seen them given.
So I guess at the start of next season the four relegation favourites are Forrest, Bournmouth, Fulham, Burnley.
Can't wait for the season to get underway and to see us lift ourselves up to a nice mid table position.
But before that we have a lot of work to do in the transfer market. Come on TK, finger out.
Quote from: filham on May 29, 2022, 10:02:12 PM
So I guess at the start of next season the four relegation favourites are Forrest, Bournmouth, Fulham, Burnley.
Can't wait for the season to get underway and to see us lift ourselves up to a nice mid table position.
But before that we have a lot of work to do in the transfer market. Come on TK, finger out.
Burnley? You mean relegated to League One?
You know from the op that I wanted Huddersfield to win but congratulations to forest. I thought the fans created a great atmosphere although the game was a poor afare dominated by the defences. I didn't think either team was better than the other and don't think either of the keepers had a save to make. Regarding the penalty shouts I was ok with the first decision, I think the Huddersfield player put his leg out looking for the contact then strangely withdrew it a bit which resulted in less contact than would have been. For me the on field decision like in cricket when not an obvious error was correct. The second penalty for me was 100% stone wall, the defender went down the back of his calf bringing him down and not touching the ball. I think if the penalty had been given and scored we would have been looking at a penalty shoot out because neither team looked like scoring from open play.
Notts Forest will have to improve loads, their strength is their manager.
Huddersfield were content on defending, offered little going forward.
I'm not sure a Play Off final has ever been won by an own goal.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on May 29, 2022, 06:59:17 PM
We absolutely don't need him Neco Williams does sign for us, but Djed Spence is a very good footballer.
Irritating that we released Djed Spence.....
Quote from: toshes mate on May 29, 2022, 07:07:52 PM
Thought it was a poor game overall with Forest showing a little more attacking instinct than Huddersfield's more painstaking build up even as time was running out. I cannot understand how Forest got away with those penalty shouts. The first VAR showed a clear contact but then they replayed the poorest view over and over to set our minds into believing the referee was right. The second shout didn't even get to VAR - were they on a tea break?
I can see why people buy into conspiracy theories but this wasn't a particularly spellbinding match and I congratulate Forest for the own goal success and commiserate with Huddersfield for the raw deal they got after it. Pity it couldn't have been a match like the nine goal thriller between Wrexham and Grimsby yesterday which finished 4-5. That was a football match.
Just a while back Wrexham won a game 6-5 after being 1-5 down! As you say proper football matches!! :54:
The Djed Spence tweet to Neil Warnock maybe shows why we released him. Good player but seems to have a real attitude/arrogance about him.
You've just won a play off final and the first thing you do is tweet an old manager just because he loaned you out? Very strange.
The Nottingham squad (minus all the loan players) must be one of the worst squads to ever been promoted, will have to do some serious transfers before next season.
Decent GK and CB's but Johnson is probably the only other player I would even like in our squad.
If you were the boss of Nottingham...
If Johnson doesn't sign a new contract, would you sell him for £30m or risk loosing him for peanuts next summer...I'm voting to keep.
Quote from: FreiBird on May 29, 2022, 06:57:21 PM
Forest awful again today and saved by officials for the 20th time this season, dodgy owner has clearly put the pressure on a lot of people to get them up this season. Huddersfield robbed.
yep I soo agree with the robbed bit.
Years back penalties wouldn't have been given for what we saw yesterday but in todays game they were exactly what they are given for . For me it stinks.
Quote from: PaulJ123 on May 30, 2022, 10:52:48 AM
The Djed Spence tweet to Neil Warnock maybe shows why we released him. Good player but seems to have a real attitude/arrogance about him.
You've just won a play off final and the first thing you do is tweet an old manager just because he loaned you out? Very strange.
the article I read the Middlesbrough fans don't want him back because of his behaviour.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on May 30, 2022, 11:44:25 AM
If you were the boss of Nottingham...
If Johnson doesn't sign a new contract, would you sell him for £30m or risk loosing him for peanuts next summer...I'm voting to keep.
Was pretty comfortably marked out of the game yesterday it has to be said.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on May 30, 2022, 11:15:25 AM
The Nottingham squad (minus all the loan players) must be one of the worst squads to ever been promoted, will have to do some serious transfers before next season.
Decent GK and CB's but Johnson is probably the only other player I would even like in our squad.
The Forest squad reminds me a little of our squad in 2017/18. The team went on an insane run that ultimately exceeded the ability of their permanent squad - while there's some very good talent in the squad, there are also far too many loan players that need to be signed/replaced. It's a big challenge for Cooper to try and overcome.
Quote from: Surlyc on May 30, 2022, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on May 30, 2022, 11:15:25 AM
The Nottingham squad (minus all the loan players) must be one of the worst squads to ever been promoted, will have to do some serious transfers before next season.
Decent GK and CB's but Johnson is probably the only other player I would even like in our squad.
The Forest squad reminds me a little of our squad in 2017/18. The team went on an insane run that ultimately exceeded the ability of their permanent squad - while there's some very good talent in the squad, there are also far too many loan players that need to be signed/replaced. It's a big challenge for Cooper to try and overcome.
If Cooper achieves survival next season, after this seasons miracles, I think hes surely up for manager/achievement of the decade. That'll be some feat.
Quote from: Nero on May 29, 2022, 06:52:21 PM
Forest with 5 players on loan they got a lot of recruitment work to do
Yep but with £170m to do it.
I'd love to know what their strategy will be,
a) buy players
b) buy / loan players
c) loan players
d) free agents / buy / loan
e) loan / free agents
There are so many ways to do it.
Quote from: rebel on May 30, 2022, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Nero on May 29, 2022, 06:52:21 PM
Forest with 5 players on loan they got a lot of recruitment work to do
Yep but with £170m to do it.
I'd love to know what their strategy will be,
a) buy players
b) buy / loan players
c) loan players
d) free agents / buy / loan
e) loan / free agents
There are so many ways to do it.
Worth clarifying this figure is over 3 years, they don't have that to spend straightaway.
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 30, 2022, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: rebel on May 30, 2022, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Nero on May 29, 2022, 06:52:21 PM
Forest with 5 players on loan they got a lot of recruitment work to do
Yep but with £170m to do it.
I'd love to know what their strategy will be,
a) buy players
b) buy / loan players
c) loan players
d) free agents / buy / loan
e) loan / free agents
There are so many ways to do it.
Worth clarifying this figure is over 3 years, they don't have that to spend straightaway.
I think it is £100m minimum placement money if you come last and get relegated and then £70m parachute monies over 3 years making up the £170m
Quote from: FFC1987 on May 30, 2022, 12:51:11 PM
Quote from: Surlyc on May 30, 2022, 12:26:38 PM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on May 30, 2022, 11:15:25 AM
The Nottingham squad (minus all the loan players) must be one of the worst squads to ever been promoted, will have to do some serious transfers before next season.
Decent GK and CB's but Johnson is probably the only other player I would even like in our squad.
The Forest squad reminds me a little of our squad in 2017/18. The team went on an insane run that ultimately exceeded the ability of their permanent squad - while there's some very good talent in the squad, there are also far too many loan players that need to be signed/replaced. It's a big challenge for Cooper to try and overcome.
If Cooper achieves survival next season, after this seasons miracles, I think hes surely up for manager/achievement of the decade. That'll be some feat.
I think if Marco keeps us up, he should get that award.
Quote from: SG on May 30, 2022, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on May 30, 2022, 03:38:42 PM
Quote from: rebel on May 30, 2022, 01:38:54 PM
Quote from: Nero on May 29, 2022, 06:52:21 PM
Forest with 5 players on loan they got a lot of recruitment work to do
Yep but with £170m to do it.
I'd love to know what their strategy will be,
a) buy players
b) buy / loan players
c) loan players
d) free agents / buy / loan
e) loan / free agents
There are so many ways to do it.
Worth clarifying this figure is over 3 years, they don't have that to spend straightaway.
I think it is £100m minimum placement money if you come last and get relegated and then £70m parachute monies over 3 years making up the £170m
£100m then they may have other funds available from player sales etc. Although they loaned in quite a few players. Our strategy
over the last 3 seasons or so has been, loan in players, buy the odd player or two. Then if it works out, buy them depending on how well we do.
The only players they'd be able to sell for actual money are Worral and Johnson. Doubt they'd want to sell them though.
