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So Bobby D-R is preferred over Kevin Mbabu at Right Back!?
Good to see Robinson and Wilson back. But my god the squad is very shallow.
Come on lads,get into this scum ĺot.
5-3-2
Pereira!!!!! 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif
Get in...Yaaaas
PEREIROOOOARRRRR!!!!!
Great ball by Vinicius to set Kebano off too.
But what a finish.
Great start!
What a finish!
What a strike! And with his left foot too!
Yeeees
Just turned it on!!!
Was this the player who was thought too lightweight for this league?
Palace losing
The one thing Fulham has with Mitro out, is that West Ham won't be 100% sure how we'll play, especially going forward, we have a unpredictability us that may help us out here. In any case, what a lovely strike from Periera!
Quote from: St Eve on October 09, 2022, 02:12:05 PM
Palace losing
Not sure what's going on there, they've got some great creative attacking players?
Quote from: SP on October 09, 2022, 02:10:40 PM
Was this the player who was thought too lightweight for this league?
It would be the very same player that people were having a fit about us signing - goes to show why you should ignore any Man U supporters opinion on what constitutes a good player
Hell yes!!!! Now keep it going because we are probably going to need more.
James hit the bar
Dan James so close!!
Crossbar!!!!
Radio 5 Live actually have Sidwell, a former FFC player as a pundit, v unusual.
If that had gone in...
What a save
We really need to keep targetting Kehrer because he's rubbish
LENO!
Lightning Leno!!
Leno double save
According to the commentators:
"The Referee has indicated to Bernd Leno and the rest of the Fulham team to be quicker with their goal kick and free kicks"
Seriously? its not even 30 minutes into the game
weak
Giving them a few clear chances here. Leno saving us
That was so stupid
Oh no
Are you serious? Dawson wraps his arm around his head and flops like a fish, absolute madness
Penalty to them
Leno slowly becoming as good as Van Der Sar.
We really are brain dead sometimes
How is that a penalty please explain me
so, so stupid
That was unbelievable really... Especially after all thos warnings. So so dumb
Absolute joke that
Why did VAR not look at that?
That is absolute robbery, an appalling decision from the ref. Up there with the worst I have seen.
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 02:29:45 PM
How is that a penalty please explain me
Nah. It was. He was warned.
All the good work of the first 25 mins thrown away. Just stupid. The ref was dying to give them it, and he was warned twice. Just let him go.
If thats a pen, Mitro should be getting one every single game.
I can't believe VAR hasn't overturned that - Dawson has blatantly played for that.
Can't wait for the other 6 penalties that he should give now if that is a pen
Amazing. You never see other players pushing and shoving in the box. Nonsense penalty
Quote from: jelmo on October 09, 2022, 02:30:52 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 02:29:45 PM
How is that a penalty please explain me
Nah. It was. He was warned.
He was, then the West Ham player runs straight into him. If anything a free kick to Fulham.
Quote from: jelmo on October 09, 2022, 02:30:52 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 02:29:45 PM
How is that a penalty please explain me
Nah. It was. He was warned.
He ran into him and flopped. Are you kidding me?
they need to grab momentum back
Always these 'experimental' decisions seem to fall against Fulham.
Then if we get that on one of our corners we should be getting the same but we wont
The ref is going to give them everything
Our team plays stupid too often. We can't waste this month- we have a huge opportunity to build a cushion. Cannot take it lightly.
Somebody mentioned this already, but Mitro gets heavily manhandled many times a game and we never get a penalty. Where is the consistency then? It's daylight robbery this.
This is troubling, I felt last weeks ref was taking a much harsher approach to us than Newcastle.
Dawson just ran into Pereira, raising his arm as doing so - before flopping to the ground. Don't see that as a pen personally.
We are still controlling the game.
Quote from: Lordedmundo on October 09, 2022, 02:36:24 PM
Dawson just ran into Pereira, raising his arm as doing so - before flopping to the ground. Don't see that as a pen personally.
Its 100% not a pen, but you have to play the situation. Ref spoke to him twice, so was obviously dying to give it. You just cant give him a reason to do so
Despite the ref we can still win this
Last week it was 10v11. This week 11z12
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 02:36:04 PM
Somebody mentioned this already, but Mitro gets heavily manhandled many times a game and we never get a penalty. Where is the consistency then? It's daylight robbery this.
Exactly this! Mitro gets wrestled in the box week in week out, just gets told to get up. The West Ham player runs at Pereira , put his arm over Pereira's neck, then throws himself forward under no contact whatsoever. What use is VAR if they can't overturn something so blatant as that.
Dawson seized the moment... he realised he only needed to run into Pereira to get the penalty.
I never complain about refs.
F$%K that guy.
Quote from: Caedal on October 09, 2022, 02:38:03 PM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on October 09, 2022, 02:36:24 PM
Dawson just ran into Pereira, raising his arm as doing so - before flopping to the ground. Don't see that as a pen personally.
Its 100% not a pen, but you have to play the situation. Ref spoke to him twice, so was obviously dying to give it. You just cant give him a reason to do so
Agreed. Pereira should have switched markers with another one of our players..
Quote from: ron on October 09, 2022, 02:39:46 PM
Dawson seized the moment... he realised he only needed to run into Pereira to get the penalty.
exactly
Steve Sidwell, commentating on Radio 5: "Harrison Reed is walking gingerly there".
Dawson is really annoying me
HOW WAS THAT NOT A FOUL
Quote from: Holders on October 09, 2022, 02:42:56 PM
Steve Sidwell, commentating on Radio 5: "Harrison Reed is walking gingerly there".
Ream clipped him. But he's up and ok now.
The ref has lost the plot, Pereira gets body slammed and he waves it away???
Now Dawsons just Wiped out Pereira, and apparently thats not even a free kick, WTF is this ref on? :031: :031:
Now Dawsons injured himself, little touch of Karma??
Karma's a b.
This ref. They just fouled Herrera. WTF?
Ref has decided that the pk call was so bad, he shall no longer call fouls. Two clear, really bad and clear, fouls (one each team) not called.
A point away would still be good...but I'm pissed.
Isn't that a second yellow on Pereira for getting in his way...?
Surely the worst ref we've had this season
I remember 'Enery talking about fights in Italy; "You need to knock them out to get a draw over there"..... I think the same is going to apply over in West Ham...
Oh i wonder why Pereira is mad at the ref? gets a pen called on him for Dawson flopping, then he gets wiped out by Dawson, and doesn't even get a free kick for it. I would be pretty mad as well!
James got rammed there. No yellow?
Vinicius work rate isn't high enough for the Prem. He needs a ton more movement to be of value.
We seriously miss Tete.
BDR is doing a job...but the attacks down his side are frightening. Kenny would close down their attack much quicker.
Kavanagh is the ultimate homer ref - every little foul goes West Ham's way and he's letting them kick the sh*t out of us to no avail
Very even game, we can still win this. Thoughts on the penalty call? Looked like BS to me. Dawson intentially wraps himself up with Andreas.
Quote from: Pluto on October 09, 2022, 02:47:41 PM
Surely the worst red we've had this season
You gave me a mini heart attack there. Yes, this ref is shocking.
Ref has been absolutely shocking
Absolutely robbed this half.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on October 09, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
Vinicius work rate isn't high enough for the Prem. He needs a ton more movement to be of value.
I'm not sure - I think he's done quite well as a target.
James has been a bit quiet (apart from his shot) but overall we've given them plenty of problems.
Quote from: bencher on October 09, 2022, 02:51:29 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on October 09, 2022, 02:49:52 PM
Vinicius work rate isn't high enough for the Prem. He needs a ton more movement to be of value.
I'm not sure - I think he's done quite well as a target.
James has been a bit quiet (apart from his shot) but overall we've given them plenty of problems.
As a target I agree. He doesn't even have Mitro's level of movement off the ball though IMO.
I very rarely blame refs. This guy is among the worst I've seen. Was absolutely goaded into the pen by the home supporters and is letting WH get away with murder (though AP could have been smarter).
Maybe a penalty
But that means about 10 like that in every game
What are the refs trying to do ?
As long as we hang in there we have a chance of getting a result here. I would be happy with a point away from home given our injury problems. Wet Spam are no pushovers.
Terrible penalty decision...
I am clearly in the minority but for me that was a penalty all day long, Andreas was even warned twice before it was given. Absolutely brainless.
And its a shame because we were doing well, and he was especially. Still, another 45 to go and we are well in the game, lets hope the lad keeps his head and bangs another one in.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 09, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
I am clearly in the minority but for me that was a penalty all day long, Andreas was even warned twice before it was given. Absolutely brainless.
And its a shame because we were doing well, and he was especially. Still, another 45 to go and we are well in the game, lets hope the lad keeps his head and bangs another one in.
It's more about consistency. You'll never see that given the other way. You'll never see that given against any of the big teams.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 09, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
I am clearly in the minority but for me that was a penalty all day long, Andreas was even warned twice before it was given. Absolutely brainless.
And its a shame because we were doing well, and he was especially. Still, another 45 to go and we are well in the game, lets hope the lad keeps his head and bangs another one in.
I thought it was a penalty. Gentleman Jim and Paul Parker also agree.
We've got to endure another diabolical reffing decision in the second half yet.
Nervous start for us... got to regain control.
This ref....
Bobby at FB is scaring the ish out of me.
He has no recovery pace.
A clear penalty to my mind and an incredibly stupid one to give away. Whatever one thinks of the ref he'd given two clear warnings and our dim lot do exactly the same again.
I agree with you Sgt. Fulham but thats down to other refs to be consistent with this one then. If its a foul then it needs to be called.
Sadly for me, the ref got that 100% correct, you have got to be smarter than that after two warnings.
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 09, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
I am clearly in the minority but for me that was a penalty all day long, Andreas was even warned twice before it was given. Absolutely brainless.
And its a shame because we were doing well, and he was especially. Still, another 45 to go and we are well in the game, lets hope the lad keeps his head and bangs another one in.
Maybe it is a penalty, that's fine. I think we all agree that if that's a pen, then Mitro should get 2-3 every game. He gets dragged to the ground several times in CKs and we NEVER got a penalty in our favour.
So it all comes down to consistency, that's what I am fuming about.
Nevertheless I am with you that Pereira needs tp be smarter than that.
If that's a clear penalty there would be dozens given every game. You can't just enforce the rules once a season
Just because he was warned twice, doesnt mean Dawson running into him is a penalty
Robinson has gotten instrumental to our defense.
Quote from: Caedal on October 09, 2022, 03:13:17 PM
Just because he was warned twice, doesnt mean Dawson running into him is a penalty
Out of interest, are these type of warnings in the laws of the game or something that have been introduced unofficially?
This ref....
Harrison Reed is a machine. For us older guys he reminds me of Stan Brown
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on October 09, 2022, 03:14:15 PM
Robinson has gotten instrumental to our defense.
Looks different class in the Prem. Good on him, and great for us.
Quote from: ianthailand on October 09, 2022, 03:04:30 PM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 09, 2022, 03:00:49 PM
I am clearly in the minority but for me that was a penalty all day long, Andreas was even warned twice before it was given. Absolutely brainless.
And its a shame because we were doing well, and he was especially. Still, another 45 to go and we are well in the game, lets hope the lad keeps his head and bangs another one in.
I thought it was a penalty. Gentleman Jim and Paul Parker also agree.
So does Steve Sidwell on R5 "stonewall".
Quote from: Caedal on October 09, 2022, 03:13:17 PM
Just because he was warned twice, doesnt mean Dawson running into him is a penalty
I didn't even get why the ref was warning him - he was just standing his ground each time. The ref got this wrong 3 times.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on October 09, 2022, 03:18:44 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on October 09, 2022, 03:14:15 PM
Robinson has gotten instrumental to our defense.
Looks different class in the Prem. Good on him, and great for us.
And BDR looks a better player in the Prem.
Dan James has been disappointing
I can't believe we let that just happen. This ref is also poo.
gotta be off, here comes VAR...
The player looks like he knows his off. Just standing there.
What a surprise from VAR
Bobby plays him on.
VAR still looked off to me but said on? wtf?
we're screwed
It's hit his arm and they've not disallowed it
VAR is taking the piss, clearly thats hit his arm
of course
Quote from: Caedal on October 09, 2022, 03:20:51 PM
Dan James has been disappointing
My initial impression, and from what I gather from Utd and Leeds fans is that he is a great sprinter but poor footballer. Doesn't mean he can't be useful, but will frequently disappoint.
That's handball innit
What bullpoo. This ref needs to be fined.
He handled it twice...
clear handball
Never annoy the ref!
This is a joke
Another free goal to the team that's already been gifted a free stadium. Level playing field indeed.
Quote from: Deeping_white on October 09, 2022, 03:23:51 PM
It's hit his arm and they've not disallowed it
This. Even the player thought it hit his arm.
This is a BS day.
That's two handballs - it's clear. For f sake! :031:
Ref needs to look at it himself
Will we bring Wilson on? I really hope so.
There is no justice!
HAHAHHAHA this is absolutely ridiculous. He was playing Handball there. What a joke!
Two clear mistakes now, awarding two goals for West Ham.
Also no idea what people are on about with the penalty, Dawson runs straight into Pereira. That is not a penalty by any definition, and no matter how many thousand warnings have been given (warnings means nothing to the rule book by the way).
Blatant handball and even the player knows it. Ref is a joke
hits the arm twice - one which changes the direction of the ball obvioously - AND the arm looks offside to me? what am I missing here- absolute joke
Quote from: jayffc on October 09, 2022, 03:23:24 PM
VAR still looked off to me but said on? wtf?
I dont know thats not either offside, or its clearly hit his arm as he's gone to control it. That is diabolical!
Referee - Fulham 2-1
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 09, 2022, 03:26:07 PM
Two clear mistakes now, awarding two goals for West Ham.
Also no idea what people are on about with the penalty, Dawson runs straight into Pereira. That is not a penalty by any definition, and no matter how many thousand warnings have been given (warnings means nothing to the rule book by the way).
Yeah some people seem to think a warning links multiple incidents... ridiculous decision.
We need fresh legs now. Bring Wilson on
Quote from: jayffc on October 09, 2022, 03:26:22 PM
hits the arm twice - one which changes the direction of the ball obvioously - AND the arm looks offside to me? what am I missing here- absolute joke
The arm can't be offside, because you are not allowed to use it to play the ball. Which conveniently brings us to the next sequence...
This referee needs to be brought before the board and stripped of his title and ability to officiate. He's a loving clown.
You reckon either of those goals get given against City, United, Chelsea Etc? Absolute Farce.
Quote from: ron on October 09, 2022, 03:05:18 PM
We've got to endure another diabolical reffing decision in the second half yet.
QED...?
I don't get why the referee is being dug out, it was VAR that gave it wasn't it?
Think VAR got it wrong though, it was a handball.
Why was the referee not sent to the monitor. The forward knew he handled it
Quote from: Sting of the North on October 09, 2022, 03:28:14 PM
Quote from: jayffc on October 09, 2022, 03:26:22 PM
hits the arm twice - one which changes the direction of the ball obvioously - AND the arm looks offside to me? what am I missing here- absolute joke
The arm can't be offside, because you are not allowed to use it to play the ball. Which conveniently brings us to the next sequence...
His hip and leg are offside though, in any case were allowed to have two touches with the arm to control the ball now apparently :031: :031:
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 09, 2022, 03:30:11 PM
I don't get why the referee is being dug out, it was VAR that gave it wasn't it?
Think VAR got it wrong though, it was a handball.
Wasn't it really obvious that the striker didn't celebrate, because he knew he'd handled it and it would be chalked off. Utterly bizarre that they've given it. If VAR can't see that it changed direction after touching his hand, maybe they need to implement a polygraph instead and ask the player if he touched it???
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on October 09, 2022, 03:30:11 PM
I don't get why the referee is being dug out, it was VAR that gave it wasn't it?
Think VAR got it wrong though, it was a handball.
Either way, the ref needs to review and make the decision, not some guy in the booth. didn't have the guts.
Its games like this where I just get really fed up with football. Big decisions always seem to go against us. VAR was brought in to stop this and its done absolutely nothing
He didn't celebrate because he knew it wasn't a goal
Cant see who is going to get a goal for us at the moment.
Quote from: Caedal on October 09, 2022, 03:20:51 PM
Dan James has been disappointing
Couldn't agree more - doesn't look like he wants it enough ...
wilson?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on October 09, 2022, 03:34:34 PM
Cant see who is going to get a goal for us at the moment.
Onomah? :dft012:
Onomah?
How is Onomah getting any minutes at all, I wonder
This match has 95th min penalty missed by us written all over it
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
How is Onomah getting any minutes at all, I wonder
If only Chalobah was available!
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
How is Onomah getting any minutes at all, I wonder
Because we never picked up another CM during the transfer window, something that every Fulham fan was calling for
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
How is Onomah getting any minutes at all, I wonder
We stupidly didn't sign a capable backup centre mid. At least he's better than Chalobah.
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
How is Onomah getting any minutes at all, I wonder
No idea but looks seriously unfit and possibly overweight ...
Despite the ref and VAR being completely biased against us, we've done very little going forward. Cant remember their keeper making a save
Onomah looks SLOW.
Quote from: rusty shackleford on October 09, 2022, 03:42:41 PM
This match has 95th min penalty missed by us written all over it
And how on earth would we get a penalty?
Quote from: Pluto on October 09, 2022, 03:43:19 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on October 09, 2022, 03:40:05 PM
How is Onomah getting any minutes at all, I wonder
We stupidly didn't sign a capable backup centre mid. At least he's better than Chalobah.
Indeed he didn't get sent off after 4 minutes :005:
It's a game of tackle football out there. Wow.
BDR murdered at RB today... I know Mbabu's been patchy but can't have done worse than Bobby out of position
Without Mitro, not enough firepower upfront.
Vinicius so far at least is not the answer. Need to buy a back up striker in January.
Quote from: Milo on October 09, 2022, 03:46:36 PM
Without Mitro, not enough firepower upfront.
Vinicius so far at least is not the answer. Need to buy a back up striker in January.
Christ the guy hasn't even played one full game yet, get a grip
GJ thinks we can get a goal - kiss of death!
Onomah is awful
That Onomah first touch though...WOW.
How on earth is Onomah still on our books?
Onamah - truly embarrassing.
Can't believe there is not a better u21 player than him in a similar position
What the hell is this sub
My goodness, that first touch
Terrible give away by Onomah there :016:
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on October 09, 2022, 03:48:32 PM
That Onomah first touch though...WOW.
possession at this late stage of the game is crucial. and that touch was terrible
His confidence and fitness look shot. Partly the clubs fault for having his train by himself all summer. Silly move if we weren't going to bring a replacement in.
Words Fail me
WHAT ARE WE DOING
crap.
and that was just a farcial mix up
Ream ffs...
Sad
Brain dead team
love off, just love off.
Lads need to wake up. Not good enough. Ream and Tosin all over the place. Vinicius did nothing. The injuries and lack of depth kills us.
Wasn't Mbabu for Pereira and move BDR as number 10 a better move? Anything other than Onomah
Second goal was the killer. Players often decide not to celebrate when they score........
Without Mitrovic we are relegation fodder. Need to consider this in January when it comes to signing new players.
Absolute joke
good night nurse. 😥
Jesus.
You can't play 11 players, the officials and VAR and expect to win.
I no longer attend away games due to lack of time but these poor decisions are ruining it for our travelling fans.
I've just remembered why I rarely bother with matchday threads.
See you elsewhere lads.
Absolute mess of a game.
Quote from: St Eve on October 09, 2022, 03:52:33 PM
You can't play 11 players, the officials and VAR and expect to win.
This.
They don't deserve this result. Three lucky goals.
Quote from: Milo on October 09, 2022, 03:51:06 PM
Without Mitrovic we are relegation fodder. Need to consider this in January when it comes to signing new players.
I think this is very incorrect. And in any case we won't be getting a high calibre PL striker for a multitude of reasons. We could easily have won today with a half decent ref.
i dont want to start picking on a player but what else can you say?
That could be a crushing defeat given the circumstances. We are still conceding far far too many goals, and without Mitro we dont look a threat at all going forward.
We played that second half far too passively and our build up play is too slow.
He's got to think about bringing Diop in to try and stop leaking so many goals. No idea what we can do at the other end of the pitch
Onomah CBA really. He is jogging about, absolutely shameful
As disappointed as I am, even with the injuries and bad decisions, we deserved something from this game
Pathetic defending by Ream - just shift it.
3 absolute gifts
Some seriously poor performances and a very weak bench
If Vinicius is the answer , f@@k knows what the question is ..
We concede far too many goals
Need a win quick...
Any positives? Wilson back on the pitch. Pereira's great goal. Robinson back.
Shocking defending there but really we've been killed by ref deciisons today. Completely turned around the game.
Stupid avoidable situations in back-to-back games... Chalobah/Ref screwed us last game, now todays circus....
Not too concerned, we'll pick up points so not gonna read too much into it to be honest. Tete, Willian, Mitro and then Solomon to come back in, Wilson getting minutes... we'll be fine
Bournemouth, Villa, Leeds, Everton next up... Some winnable games there, providing we dont get more VAR b.s
Shocking decisions, a penalty for something Dan Burn was praised for in Newcastle's game yesterday and happens at every set piece. A double hand ball for the second, his hand taking pace on the ball and his elbow controlling it and then a gift of a goal at the death, which I have just seen is also a handball. Can't beat VAR, seems like revenge for Marcos comments.
Quote from: LittleErn on October 09, 2022, 03:55:46 PM
Any positives? Wilson back on the pitch. Pereira's great goal. Robinson back.
We need Wilson and Solomon or at least Tete back so BDR can play on the wing. We lack so much in depth it's obvious to see, even for the blind. We are so reliant on our initial staring 11 - why is Onomah even on the pitch? Give the kids a chance at this point.
