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Title: West Ham
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on August 21, 2022, 03:14:41 PM
Look awful. Relegation material on the first three weeks thus far unless they can somehow turn this around.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: SP on August 21, 2022, 03:17:56 PM
What a shame............
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on August 21, 2022, 03:20:36 PM
Quote from: SP on August 21, 2022, 03:17:56 PM
What a shame............

Hahaha
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 21, 2022, 03:28:16 PM
0-2 now.
The scum from down the road losing at Leeds.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: SP on August 21, 2022, 03:31:28 PM
Great weekend all round and I'm sure RLC will be MoTM in their spanking by Leeds.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Sgt Fulham on August 21, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
Not great at all. Chelsea and WHU never going to get relegated. Same with Utd. Not good having these trams down there with actual relegation candidates picking up points. Going to be a really tough league this year.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: bencher on August 21, 2022, 03:39:38 PM
It's been a strange start to the season, with it looking like anyone can take points off anyone. That's both an opportunity and a problem.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 21, 2022, 03:39:50 PM
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Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 21, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
Not great at all. Chelsea and WHU never going to get relegated. Same with Utd. Not good having these trams down there with actual relegation candidates picking up points. Going to be a really tough league this year.

You drunk😅 Trams still running then...Sorry Serg couldn't resist it.

Not good you say having these teams down there.
Why,They not entitled to be up top no more than anyone else.
Fck Chelsea Scum.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: alfie on August 21, 2022, 03:46:34 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 21, 2022, 03:39:50 PM
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Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 21, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
Not great at all. Chelsea and WHU never going to get relegated. Same with Utd. Not good having these trams down there with actual relegation candidates picking up points. Going to be a really tough league this year.

You drunk😅

Not good you say having these teams down there.
Why,They not entitled to be up top no more than anyone else.
Fck Chelsea Scum.
:plus one:
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 21, 2022, 03:49:49 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 21, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
Not great at all. Chelsea and WHU never going to get relegated. Same with Utd. Not good having these trams down there with actual relegation candidates picking up points. Going to be a really tough league this year.

Of course it's great to see the fancy big club teams losing to the under dogs, that's what makes English football the best league in the world, it's called entertainment and it is pure theatre.
I wouldn't have it any other way.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 03:53:31 PM
I rather have the likes of Leeds or Brighton drop points as I don't think Chelski or United will go down, same with Wet Spam. Let's hope the league don't get too busy in the bottom as, let's be real, we will fight for relegation this season even though we are looking sharp at the moment.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Sgt Fulham on August 21, 2022, 03:54:00 PM
More a case of our survival. Teams like Chelsea and Utd are too rich to actually fail, while WHU would have to undergo a bizarre transformation to get relegated after last season. Great to see the big teams lose, but not great at all to see our more realistic competitors picking up vital points.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Dodger53 on August 21, 2022, 03:58:00 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 21, 2022, 03:54:00 PM
More a case of our survival. Teams like Chelsea and Utd are too rich to actually fail, while WHU would have to undergo a bizarre transformation to get relegated after last season. Great to see the big teams lose, but not great at all to see our more realistic competitors picking up vital points.
Your over thinking this... Maybe we could win the league 😂
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: filham on August 21, 2022, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 03:53:31 PM
I rather have the likes of Leeds or Brighton drop points as I don't think Chelski or United will go down, same with Wet Spam. Let's hope the league don't get too busy in the bottom as, let's be real, we will fight for relegation this season even though we are looking sharp at the moment.
Fully agree , no way will we be in a relegation battle with Man.U.or West Ham so let them gain points now at the expense of possible relegation contenders.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 21, 2022, 04:06:13 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 03:53:31 PM
I rather have the likes of Leeds or Brighton drop points as I don't think Chelski or United will go down, same with Wet Spam. Let's hope the league don't get too busy in the bottom as, let's be real, we will fight for relegation this season even though we are looking sharp at the moment.

We'll fight for relegation.
Fulham fans.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Jules on August 21, 2022, 04:07:46 PM
Quote from: filham on August 21, 2022, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 03:53:31 PM
I rather have the likes of Leeds or Brighton drop points as I don't think Chelski or United will go down, same with Wet Spam. Let's hope the league don't get too busy in the bottom as, let's be real, we will fight for relegation this season even though we are looking sharp at the moment.
Fully agree , no way will we be in a relegation battle with Man.U.or West Ham so let them gain points now at the expense of possible relegation contenders.
But why can't we be in mid table comfort as long as we keep picking up points? Let's concentrate on our own results. We may be fine, we just need 40 points as early as possible and that's the target.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 21, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Nice to see Fulham fans have faith in their side.
That's me offline,not reading anymore of this crap.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Thailand Mick on August 21, 2022, 04:13:50 PM
We must remember that this season is different to other seasons, there is a more condensed fixture list for the first half and then all these big clubs will lose so many players to the world Cup. Those players will be playing in a very hot climate and then will have to come back to the English winter. Many players that went to the Afcon last season came back and didn't reach their performances from pre tournament. I know its unlikely but not impossible a big club could get relegated then wait for the excuses about having the world Cup mid season.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Deeping_white on August 21, 2022, 04:18:12 PM
Quote from: filham on August 21, 2022, 04:05:31 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 03:53:31 PM
I rather have the likes of Leeds or Brighton drop points as I don't think Chelski or United will go down, same with Wet Spam. Let's hope the league don't get too busy in the bottom as, let's be real, we will fight for relegation this season even though we are looking sharp at the moment.
Fully agree , no way will we be in a relegation battle with Man.U.or West Ham so let them gain points now at the expense of possible relegation contenders.

Good job the players and staff have more balls than some of you lot eh
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 04:24:24 PM
If anyone considers I am being negative and not realistic because I say a newly promoted team will fight for relegation, then you need to get off cloud nine. I am not being an awful fan, I think that 90% of club staff think exactly the same.

I think many people here is confusing 'goals' or 'expectations' with end product. Do I think we can finish comfortably in mid table? Of course, especially if we sign more quality players to beef up the squad. Do I want to finish up there in the table? Absolutely.

But I am realistic and my expectations is that we don't go down. Easy as.

That said I still think that Brighton or Leeds will end up below Man U, Chelsea or Wet Spam.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: ffcthereligion on August 21, 2022, 04:24:54 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on August 21, 2022, 03:35:35 PM
Not great at all. Chelsea and WHU never going to get relegated. Same with Utd. Not good having these trams down there with actual relegation candidates picking up points. Going to be a really tough league this year.

Exactly this. Forget everyone else. Theres only 6 teams we need to worry about this year. Bournemouth, Forest, Leeds, Southampton, Everton and Brentford. And all of them have picked up wins aside from Everton

Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: rebel on August 21, 2022, 04:26:04 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 04:24:24 PM
If anyone considers I am being negative and not realistic because I say a newly promoted team will fight for relegation, then you need to get off cloud nine. I am not being an awful fan, I think that 90% of club staff think exactly the same.

What's our goal for the season then? Champions League? Get off it.

And please don't say something like "mid table". That's not a goal, that's a consequence of being outside relegation spots.

That said I still think that Brighton or Leeds will end up below Man U, Chelsea or Wet Spam.

Have you posted that on the predictions thread?
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: rebel on August 21, 2022, 04:31:02 PM
Liverpool, Chelsea, Tottenham (first half) etc, there are already blueprints of how to play these teams. They are 'beatable'.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Mince n Tatties on August 21, 2022, 04:34:22 PM
Quote from: SouthernWhite on August 21, 2022, 04:24:24 PM
If anyone considers I am being negative and not realistic because I say a newly promoted team will fight for relegation, then you need to get off cloud nine. I am not being an awful fan, I think that 90% of club staff think exactly the same.

I think many people here is confusing 'goals' or 'expectations' with end product. Do I think we can finish comfortably in mid table? Of course, especially if we sign more quality players to beef up the squad. Do I want to finish up there in the table? Absolutely.

But I am realistic and my expectations is that we don't go down. Easy as.

That said I still think that Brighton or Leeds will end up below Man U, Chelsea or Wet Spam.

Nobody is saying that they will be relegated,it's just great that they get shut up now and then...
I'd go as far as to say that Brighton want be near relegation,they are a decent side with a good manager.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Pluto on August 21, 2022, 05:34:57 PM
West Ham could absolutely go down. That squad is vastly overrated and it's about time they came down to Earth. Look at Everton last season.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Tabby on August 21, 2022, 05:42:17 PM
Wouldn't count West Ham, Villa or Everton out of a relegation scrap. West Ham were comfortably mid table for a year with Pellegrini before they almost got relegated the season after and appointed Moyes. Same story with Slven Bilic (also Moyes stepping in).

Also have no idea why people keep tipping Brighton to go down, they've been one of he more quietly impressive teams ever since Potter took over. They just need hat final piece to hit and they could be challenging for really good positions.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 21, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
If Fulham finish in the bottom 3 then it has to be because we are not good enough no matter who ends up above us.
If Fulham finish above at least 3 other teams it's because we were good enough to stay up.

We have no control over what happens in other games.
We only have control of what we do, and any club that wishes to be worthy of staying in the Premier League should only concentrate on ensuring they get the minimum points required and not rely on other clubs misfortunes, that is for the timid, the meek and the mild.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: ChesterTheTabby on August 21, 2022, 10:29:39 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 21, 2022, 10:21:01 PM
If Fulham finish in the bottom 3 then it has to be because we are not good enough no matter who ends up above us.
If Fulham finish above at least 3 other teams it's because we were good enough to stay up.

We have no control over what happens in other games.
We only have control of what we do, and any club that wishes to be worthy of staying in the Premier League should only concentrate on ensuring they get the minimum points required and not rely on other clubs misfortunes, that is for the timid, the meek and the mild.


This. The Woolly knows best.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Sgt Fulham on August 22, 2022, 09:53:23 AM
The whole dynamic of a league centres around how good a team is in comparison to its competitors, so it very much matters how our direct competitors do. If our best is 38 points, whether that ends up being good enough or not is determined by how 19 other teams do. Unless you want to believe that Man Utd or Chelsea are going to get relegated it does matter how teams like Leeds do. We've had 3 good results so far and the team is looking good, but you're setting yourself up for disappointment if you think this season is going to be a breeze. Chances are, it will be a tough fight to avoid relegation. Admitting this doesn't make me a coward or a bad fan, it's just being realistic.

For what its worth I absolutely do think we have the quality to stay up, particularly with our manager who I believe to be outstanding.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: filham on August 22, 2022, 10:09:36 AM
Quote from: Thailand Mick on August 21, 2022, 04:13:50 PM
We must remember that this season is different to other seasons, there is a more condensed fixture list for the first half and then all these big clubs will lose so many players to the world Cup. Those players will be playing in a very hot climate and then will have to come back to the English winter. Many players that went to the Afcon last season came back and didn't reach their performances from pre tournament. I know its unlikely but not impossible a big club could get relegated then wait for the excuses about having the world Cup mid season.
Remember the big six have sufficient quality players to make up two or even three teams. If their first team return with world cup fatigue they simply field their second XI. There is no way any one of them will be relegated.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: hovewhite on August 22, 2022, 10:42:06 AM
My shock relagation possible, Leciester city.can see them struggling.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on August 22, 2022, 10:46:51 AM
I do not think anybody is actually saying these so called big teams will get relegated because of their  poor start. Although anything can happen in football, but it is good to be able to envisage that happening to shuffle the pack.

There is just some joviality surrounding it to see how easy they can come unstuck on the day if the opponents are prepared to run further faster and longer, add that to injuries occurring and the odd player being dismissed from the field of play, and you have mixed a glorious cocktail called " The unexpected ".
Realistically and the likelihood is that after ten games the Division will start to see a pattern and the picture would have changed.
To survive and improve it is all about consistency and confidence and everyone enjoys the rub of the green and a 50/50 decision going our way.
I would rather be lucky than unlucky, and you can make your own luck.

We have to remember though never to get ourselves in a position to rely on other teams around us dropping points, and to avoid that we look after ourselves by ensuring we enable ourselves to take points off as many games as possible no matter who we play, that way we will have no need to keep looking over our shoulders.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: bobby01 on August 22, 2022, 10:51:13 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 22, 2022, 10:42:06 AM
My shock relagation possible, Leciester city.can see them struggling.


If they lose fofana and tielmans they will really be in trouble
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Wingnut on August 22, 2022, 12:49:44 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on August 22, 2022, 10:42:06 AM
My shock relagation possible, Leciester city.can see them struggling.

If Leicester sell Fofana and Tielemans, they'll struggle. West Ham are playing Aston Villa at the weekend. That's a big game for both clubs. Another defeat for Villa or West Ham and the vultures will start to circle.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: Sgt Fulham on August 22, 2022, 01:21:46 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 22, 2022, 10:46:51 AM
I do not think anybody is actually saying these so called big teams will get relegated because of their  poor start. Although anything can happen in football, but it is good to be able to envisage that happening to shuffle the pack.

There is just some joviality surrounding it to see how easy they can come unstuck on the day if the opponents are prepared to run further faster and longer, add that to injuries occurring and the odd player being dismissed from the field of play, and you have mixed a glorious cocktail called " The unexpected ".
Realistically and the likelihood is that after ten games the Division will start to see a pattern and the picture would have changed.
To survive and improve it is all about consistency and confidence and everyone enjoys the rub of the green and a 50/50 decision going our way.
I would rather be lucky than unlucky, and you can make your own luck.

We have to remember though never to get ourselves in a position to rely on other teams around us dropping points, and to avoid that we look after ourselves by ensuring we enable ourselves to take points off as many games as possible no matter who we play, that way we will have no need to keep looking over our shoulders.


Fair enough, I agree with your point. Good post.
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: fulhamfever on August 22, 2022, 01:27:10 PM
2nd season syndrome in Europe they will feel it
Title: Re: West Ham
Post by: H4usuallysitting on August 22, 2022, 05:29:58 PM
In my humble...have as many down there as possible