I want England to win but I hope our boys play blinders for the US.
30 mins gone, one good chance for each team really, and a surprisingly dull game so far... I think Maguire passing to Stones and back has been the story so far.... England certainly not all out attack as they were against Iran.
Oooh, USA just hit the bar
We seem to be letting them play instead of pressing. Poor so far.
Ream and especially Robinson doing well -US attacking on the break with pace, England a bit laboured.
Must admit, my feelings are bit divided.
Luke Shaw obviously takes his male grooming seriously, looks like he should be running a cereal bar in Shoreditch.
Pulisic is 5'8", crossing the ball to him in the box is pointless. 😆
A poor, poor half by England.
Quote from: ron on November 25, 2022, 07:48:07 PM
A poor, poor half by England.
I expected more from them TBH.
England were awful
Grim viewing for an England fan. We've been terrible..
Back to typical Southgate. Slow passing and lack of movement and ideas
Quote from: RaySmith on November 25, 2022, 07:41:48 PM
Ream and especially Robinson doing well -US attacking on the break with pace, England a bit laboured.
Wouldn't that be seriously Fulhamish if neither made a mistake!
I know, I know Club or Country. I'll take the abuse for three points tonight.
Must admit, my feelings are bit divided.
Just for clarity I made the Fulhamish quote in the middle of the last post. Wouldn't want Ray to cop any of the incoming abuse!
Robinson and Ream look really good. Robinson will become harder and harder to keep hold of.
As for England...not good. Mason Mount is an incredibly overrated player. Once again he's brought absolutely nothing to the table.
Quote from: Pluto on November 25, 2022, 08:01:14 PM
Robinson and Ream look really good. Robinson will become harder and harder to keep hold of.
I just made the comment to my wife that Robinson probably won't be a Fulham player after January.
This is a hell of a shop window for him.
Harry Kane desperately defending tells the story.
I have to say I'm fancying the US for this. And I wouldn't be too disappointed from an England point of view.
Come on Grealish FFS.
I don't think Tim has had an easier game all season.
Gareth Southgate is basically Scott Parker
Slow, slow, slow.
Back, back, backwards
Poor, poor, poor!
I don't think they have much choice the USA press has been excellent. They have not given England a forward outlet, I guess they could just lob it forward and hope.
I make that twice this season that Robinson has had Saka in his back pocket
Southgate couldnt manage a hard on in a brothel
Quote from: sunburywhite on November 25, 2022, 08:44:38 PM
Southgate couldnt manage a hard on in a brothel
He wouldn't be the first or the last!
90 minutes of my life I'm not getting back 🙄
Quote from: Penfold on November 25, 2022, 08:56:16 PM
90 minutes of my life I'm not getting back 🙄
Absolutely, what a waste of life.
There is no excuse for not showing a bit of invention and a spark now and again despite the opposition's hard work and discipline.
Because that's all the USA offered, hard work and discipline and it made us look very poor.
Poor game management from the team and the more so the coach.
It's brought a few on here back down to earth,getting carried away over the Iran result,half the teams in the Championship would beat Iran.😜
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Quote from: Penfold on November 25, 2022, 08:56:16 PM
90 minutes of my life I'm not getting back 🙄
Absolutely, what a waste of life.
Indeed. At least the Budvar is good 🍻🤪
Luke Shaw only wanted to pass the ball backwards. Sterling, Mount, Bellingham, Trippier, non-existent. Foden doesn't get a look in? Pathetic.
Jedi mom imo
Southgate just said how pleased he was with how the lads adapted to the USA style of play...er right. :016: How could he bring Henderson on before Foden? :dft011:
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Quote from: FulhamKC on November 25, 2022, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: Pluto on November 25, 2022, 08:01:14 PM
Robinson and Ream look really good. Robinson will become harder and harder to keep hold of.
I just made the comment to my wife that Robinson probably won't be a Fulham player after January.
Why? He's a starter for a Premier League side, and our owner isn't poor. We got him for a bag of chips. I'm sure the Khan's will pay him.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on November 25, 2022, 09:07:28 PM
It's brought a few on here back down to earth,getting carried away over the Iran result,half the teams in the Championship would beat Iran.😜
Apparently half the teams in the Championship would beat Wales as well.
Poor display from England, but 4 point's from 2 game's should be enough to the next round
Odd remark from 'on the ropes' Southgate that centre backs Maguire and Stones controlled the game. On my TV the remark seemed more applicable to the Ream twins.
Quote from: Colton F.C. on November 25, 2022, 10:16:23 PM
Odd remark from 'on the ropes' Southgate that centre backs Maguire and Stones controlled the game. On my TV the remark seemed more applicable to the Ream twins.
desperate perhaps
Is Mason Mount his lovechild?
3 matches and England still hasn't beaten the USA (thank you Rob Green). 1 loss and 2 draws.
USA aren't a poor team anymore, folks (not on this board mind you) seem to forget that. That said, how was Foden not on the pitch? England looked second best the whole game.
And if the US (yay) had an actual striker worth an "S"... 079.gif
Southgate has to be the worst tactical manager in the tournament.
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Southgate would struggle to keep a job in the championship. Absolutely clueless.
Well done to our boys Tim Ream and Antonee Robinson, sounds like they played very well and deserved at least the draw. Let's hope they can beat Iran and qualify for the knock out which I believe would be Tim Reams 50th cap.
It's really hard to not cheer on Ream and Robinson.. England just awful
Brilliant performances by ream and Jedi in an all round display,England after the lord mayes show against Iran back to normal.if the state's had a finisher they would have a real chance of the world cup.
Quote from: hovewhite on November 26, 2022, 06:47:25 AM
Brilliant performances by ream and Jedi in an all round display,England after the lord mayes show against Iran back to normal.if the state's had a finisher they would have a real chance of the world cup.
England were lucky the US didn't have a finisher!
Funny how the mood on here has changed after last nights result and performance, shame I decided to watch most of the game this morning not knowing the result. Well done Ream and Robinson!!
Sadly Southgate is a nice guy - loser !! He's never won anything (player or mgr) and he never will ! His faith in Mount is questionable when he has three better attacking midfielders in the squad !! If you specifically look out for Mount he barely touches the ball !! Rubbish 😢
Mount is like Lampard: he'll get the spectacular goals but in open play on the World stage he's not got it
I watched the game because Ream and Robinson were playing. It reminded me why I don't usually watch England. Dull,dull, dull 😴
Tim Ream is unrecogniseable since Marco arrived. He was superb last night with Jedi also looking good. :54:
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As much as anyone on here I don't like the sideways and backward passing, but if you are a centre back with the ball and there is no forward pass on because the midfield and forwards not creating space and you have the press coming at you, what are you going to do
1. Pass back to keeper - retain possession and start again
2. Pass sideways - see 1 above.
3. Lump it up field in the hope in lands favourably- probably lose possession.
What would YOU do ?
Quote from: bog on November 26, 2022, 08:31:42 AM
Tim Ream is unrecogniseable since Marco arrived. He was superb last night with Jedi also looking good. :54:
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Amazing 🤩 both of them !! Jedi looks on fire 🔥!! He's turning into the fullback we all thought he could be 🤩
Well, I ended up wanting Ream, Robinson and the USA to win, they so deserved it on the night.
Quote from: alfie on November 26, 2022, 09:30:14 AM
As much as anyone on here I don't like the sideways and backward passing, but if you are a centre back with the ball and there is no forward pass on because the midfield and forwards not creating space and you have the press coming at you, what are you going to do
1. Pass back to keeper - retain possession and start again
2. Pass sideways - see 1 above.
3. Lump it up field in the hope in lands favourably- probably lose possession.
What would YOU do ?
Do what Tim Ream does and run and dribble at players
Quote from: filham on November 26, 2022, 10:23:17 AM
Well, I ended up wanting Ream, Robinson and the USA to win, they so deserved it on the night.
Same here .Especially with the taking of the knee as well.
Stuart Pearce very complimentary of Robinson best player on the pitch
along with Pulisic
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 26, 2022, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: bog on November 26, 2022, 08:31:42 AM
Tim Ream is unrecogniseable since Marco arrived. He was superb last night with Jedi also looking good. :54:
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Amazing 🤩 both of them !! Jedi looks on fire 🔥!! He's turning into the fullback we all thought he could be 🤩
Pundits and football YouTubers are saying Jedi should move to a bigger club but let's not forget he decided to stay when we were last relegated
Quote from: demeant0r on November 26, 2022, 10:36:17 AM
Quote from: alfie on November 26, 2022, 09:30:14 AM
As much as anyone on here I don't like the sideways and backward passing, but if you are a centre back with the ball and there is no forward pass on because the midfield and forwards not creating space and you have the press coming at you, what are you going to do
1. Pass back to keeper - retain possession and start again
2. Pass sideways - see 1 above.
3. Lump it up field in the hope in lands favourably- probably lose possession.
What would YOU do ?
Do what Tim Ream does and run and dribble at players
Maybe, but can you imagine the slating McGuire would get if he done that and lost the ball.
Quote from: alfie on November 26, 2022, 10:40:30 AM
Quote from: demeant0r on November 26, 2022, 10:36:17 AM
Quote from: alfie on November 26, 2022, 09:30:14 AM
As much as anyone on here I don't like the sideways and backward passing, but if you are a centre back with the ball and there is no forward pass on because the midfield and forwards not creating space and you have the press coming at you, what are you going to do
1. Pass back to keeper - retain possession and start again
2. Pass sideways - see 1 above.
3. Lump it up field in the hope in lands favourably- probably lose possession.
What would YOU do ?
Do what Tim Ream does and run and dribble at players
Maybe, but can you imagine the slating McGuire would get if he done that and lost the ball.
The passes forward were on at times.
Being careful is fine, keeping the ball and moving the opposition around is good but we over do it.
A positive pass forward to feet draws a foul, makes defenders commit and creates space etc and doesn't have to be risky.
The control of modern players (even English) is so good now you can pass forward to feet and it starts the creative process.
Last night they were either under strict instructions or too scared to play in a positive manner so may as well give up on us now as we will flatter to devise in another game or two and fail against a team we should be beating like we did when it gets to the crunch games such as Croatia & Italy.
Southgate scared to change from 4 3 3 to his usual 5 3 2 as he knew what
the reaction would be from media and fans
So instead sticks to the formation for Iran.
But puts the brakes on the team.
Showed up Declan Rice for me .Run ragged .
Proved Trippier only likes going forward and when restricted not a good defender.
Saka not able to play his game when gets pushed back.
Saka was a anonymous at the Emirates
Quote from: Southcoastffc on November 26, 2022, 08:24:32 AM
I watched the game because Ream and Robinson were playing. It reminded me why I don't usually watch England. Dull,dull, dull 😴
Me too
It all went wrong when Walter Winterbottom dropped Stanley Matthews................
Quote from: demeant0r on November 26, 2022, 10:38:36 AM
Quote from: One Martin Thomas on November 26, 2022, 09:31:21 AM
Quote from: bog on November 26, 2022, 08:31:42 AM
Tim Ream is unrecogniseable since Marco arrived. He was superb last night with Jedi also looking good. :54:
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Amazing 🤩 both of them !! Jedi looks on fire 🔥!! He's turning into the fullback we all thought he could be 🤩
Pundits and football YouTubers are saying Jedi should move to a bigger club but let's not forget he decided to stay when we were last relegated
Nowhere near the same player he was back then though. His performances have been fantastic so far this season which you couldn't say was the case two years ago
Quote from: Holders on November 25, 2022, 11:01:53 PM
Is Mason Mount his lovechild?
Guardiola starts Mount over Pulisic. Guess you have to have the right eyes to see Mounts talents. I certainly don't.
The US midfield ran the match. If the US had a striker they might get to the last eight or even the last four. Iran needs a draw to advance assuming the 3 Lions handle Wales. Iran will park the bus and without a striker the US will not break them down.
I thought it was a pretty entertaining game overall. There were some dull moments, sure, but on balance an enjoyable view. I thought Sterling and Saka were basically invisible in this match. Ream and Robinson were excellent.
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Quote from: filham on November 26, 2022, 10:23:17 AM
Well, I ended up wanting Ream, Robinson and the USA to win, they so deserved it on the night.
Same here .Especially with the taking of the knee as well.
Stuart Pearce very complimentary of Robinson best player on the pitch
along with Pulisic
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The bad news is that Robinson's Fulham contract expires at the end of the season, a few clubs will have an eye on him.
At the end of the day, so far England have twice as many points as USA and four times as many points as Wales, and it is called FOOTBALL.
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Quote from: Holders on November 25, 2022, 11:01:53 PM
Is Mason Mount his lovechild?
Guardiola starts Mount over Pulisic. Guess you have to have the right eyes to see Mounts talents. I certainly don't.
The US midfield ran the match. If the US had a striker they might get to the last eight or even the last four. Iran needs a draw to advance assuming the 3 Lions handle Wales. Iran will park the bus and without a striker the US will not break them down.
Couldn't agree more...
Looks like the most watched match ever here in the US. :clap_hands: 049:gif
Friday's @USMNT - England #FIFAWorldCup match draws 15,377,000 viewers on FOX, making it the most-watched men's "soccer" match EVER on U.S. television, up +6% from the previous high of 14,510,000 (Italy vs. Brazil Final, 1994).
