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Twitter is down, however, Silva said after the game tonight that TC and Reed both picked up injuries tonight, TC was his ankle and Reed is his knee. Both big doubts for Saturday, but they don't know the extent of the injuries yet

Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 08, 2023, 10:52:02 PM
Twitter is down, however, Silva said after the game tonight that TC and Reed both picked up injuries tonight, TC was his ankle and Reed is his knee. Both big doubts for Saturday, but they don't know the extent of the injuries yet

No problem. Cairney not a starter and lukic ready in waiting. Great result

Great win but could prove to be costly if both are injured for long. 

Silva says that both Cairney and Reed picked up knocks. Initially seemed Cairney's may be more serious but now more confident it won't be. Needs to be assessed.

Shin/ankle area for Cairney, knee for Reed. #FFC

— Peter Rutzler (@peterrutzler) February 8, 2023

Doesn't sound too bad (fingers crossed), but certainly could be a problem this weekend.

Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 08, 2023, 11:17:56 PM
Doesn't sound too bad (fingers crossed), but certainly could be a problem this weekend.

No worries, we have Francois back  :005:

Could be a good time to see Lukic if Reed is injured. 

Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 08, 2023, 10:56:32 PM

Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 08, 2023, 10:52:02 PM
Twitter is down, however, Silva said after the game tonight that TC and Reed both picked up injuries tonight, TC was his ankle and Reed is his knee. Both big doubts for Saturday, but they don't know the extent of the injuries yet

No problem. Cairney not a starter and lukic ready in waiting. Great result

Sorry but possibly losing 2 regular midfielders is a problem. If out for any time we have no proper replacement's

Quote from: sarnian on February 08, 2023, 11:33:43 PM

Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 08, 2023, 10:56:32 PM

Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 08, 2023, 10:52:02 PM
Twitter is down, however, Silva said after the game tonight that TC and Reed both picked up injuries tonight, TC was his ankle and Reed is his knee. Both big doubts for Saturday, but they don't know the extent of the injuries yet

No problem. Cairney not a starter and lukic ready in waiting. Great result

Sorry but possibly losing 2 regular midfielders is a problem. If out for any time we have no proper replacement's

It's a big problem, Harrison is integral plus a knee injury is generally bad
Also
We've seen nothing of Lukic yet, so don't get your pecker up so soon

It would be a huge problem. Lukic only recently arrived, he'll probably need some time to adapt to a new league/country and we know how Marco likes new players to be integrated slowly into the squad. Hopefully at least one of the two is ready to start oir next match. If not I'd rather move Andreas to where Reed plays and play with BDR/Solomon/Wilson/Willian as a "10" than throw in Lukic/Harris/Francois who probably aren't ready to start yet.

Quote from: SerbianLad on February 09, 2023, 12:18:43 AM
It would be a huge problem. Lukic only recently arrived, he'll probably need some time to adapt to a new league/country and we know how Marco likes new players to be integrated slowly into the squad. Hopefully at least one of the two is ready to start oir next match. If not I'd rather move Andreas to where Reed plays and play with BDR/Solomon/Wilson/Willian as a "10" than throw in Lukic/Harris/Francois who probably aren't ready to start yet.

Doesn't look like we have any other choice other than to play Lukic if he's got. silva won't play Andreas deeper

We're doomed

Yes we are doomed to be doomed.
Injuries happen it hasn't just been invented, it is part of the game since Adam met Eve, we have to get use to it.
The more successful you are the more games you play, the key is to have depth and cover available, avoid square pegs in round holes if we wish to avoid disappointment.
If we are going to sign players to contribute and make an impact because we need immediate cover, then be careful you make sure they are of the character to settle in and have the attributes to make a start from word go, not waste weeks waiting for them to bed in, what use are they when you need cover for injuries.
If a new player arrives from over the sea and far away then the risk could be a lot higher so don't take that risk.
You spend a lot of money and then proceed to wrap them up in cotton wool and file them under the heading of  " Fragile need's special care for a month or more, please be gentle" is self defeating.

Fulham are not running a rest home especially when Fulham have a comparatively small squad. Nor forgetting the extra salary to add to the wage bill with little in return.
Tom and Harrison have unfortunately sustained injuries and suddenly all is lost. Well no it is not we rise to the challenge, and this is where you find out the character and mental strength of players, which is in adversity and in stormy seas, not when the sea is calm.
Of course they will be missed if their injuries prevent them from playing Saturday, that is football it happens to every club.
That is why new players must be ready to play a part, they are professional athletes who are conditioned on a daily basis and they have to be mentally strong, otherwise they are in the wrong job.

Suspect it may be the end of Tom's season. Had a very good game last night. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

reckon Lukic could be a good one, although he will have to be some player to displace Harrison the Great... we were always going to have to mix and match this week, but we are growing a squad where we can do that....

the injury according to silva is not as serious as first though but that could still mean a lengthy lay off.

Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 08, 2023, 11:17:56 PM
Doesn't sound too bad (fingers crossed), but certainly could be a problem this weekend.

Cairney is not a regular starter so not such an issue, Reed is a big miss when out but surely that's why Lukic was brought in as cover??

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 09, 2023, 06:53:53 AM
Yes we are doomed to be doomed.
Injuries happen it hasn't just been invented, it is part of the game since Adam met Eve, we have to get use to it.
The more successful you are the more games you play, the key is to have depth and cover available, avoid square pegs in round holes if we wish to avoid disappointment.
If we are going to sign players to contribute and make an impact because we need immediate cover, then be careful you make sure they are of the character to settle in and have the attributes to make a start from word go, not waste weeks waiting for them to bed in, what use are they when you need cover for injuries.
If a new player arrives from over the sea and far away then the risk could be a lot higher so don't take that risk.
You spend a lot of money and then proceed to wrap them up in cotton wool and file them under the heading of  " Fragile need's special care for a month or more, please be gentle" is self defeating.

Fulham are not running a rest home especially when Fulham have a comparatively small squad. Nor forgetting the extra salary to add to the wage bill with little in return.
Tom and Harrison have unfortunately sustained injuries and suddenly all is lost. Well no it is not we rise to the challenge, and this is where you find out the character and mental strength of players, which is in adversity and in stormy seas, not when the sea is calm.
Of course they will be missed if their injuries prevent them from playing Saturday, that is football it happens to every club.
That is why new players must be ready to play a part, they are professional athletes who are conditioned on a daily basis and they have to be mentally strong, otherwise they are in the wrong job.

My thoughts exactly Mr Wooly,On holiday so difficult to sum up my thoughts at the moment but you'll do for me.

As Woolly says it could happen in any game,league,Cup,Friendly,International.
Even in training,there are lots of players out at clubs far worse off than we are financially.

Quote from: ffcthereligion on February 08, 2023, 10:56:32 PM

Quote from: WestSussexWhite on February 08, 2023, 10:52:02 PM
Twitter is down, however, Silva said after the game tonight that TC and Reed both picked up injuries tonight, TC was his ankle and Reed is his knee. Both big doubts for Saturday, but they don't know the extent of the injuries yet

No problem. Cairney not a starter and lukic ready in waiting. Great result

So our MoM of last night and by far and away best and most impactful sub is missing. Equally our hardest working midfielder would have to be replaced by a new recruit who is lacking game time and it's "no problem". Breathtaking.

It does not matter what the question is...the answer is always BDR! Think he played a while as an 8 for Bristol back in the day

Let's not forget Saša Lukić has played 19 times this season for Torino and all of Serbia's matches in the world cup. He is an experienced international class midfielder bought for about 13 million. He is obviously fit and at his most influential time of his career. I would expect him to be ready immediately to take up any midfield role Fulham need and hopefully he will prove to be an inspired purchase by Fulham.

Tom Cairney
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Job done 😅 credit to Sunderland who pushed us all the way... 🤞🏼 my injury isn't too bad 😖

Quote from: Motspur Park on February 09, 2023, 08:08:01 AM
Suspect it may be the end of Tom's season. Had a very good game last night. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Why do you suspect its the end of Tom's season?

Quote from: KJS on February 09, 2023, 08:46:00 AM

Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 08, 2023, 11:17:56 PM
Doesn't sound too bad (fingers crossed), but certainly could be a problem this weekend.

Cairney is not a regular starter so not such an issue, Reed is a big miss when out but surely that's why Lukic was brought in as cover??

Well, if both are unavailable this weekend our center midfield will be missing one starter and our most important (and only) impact sub at the position. I certainly hope Lukic can step in and play well (if Marco chooses to start him), but it will be his first Premier League appearance, not to mention the lack of options off the bench should anyone require substitution for whatever reason. So yeah, I hope things work out but as I said above, we "could" have a problem this weekend.   

Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on February 09, 2023, 02:11:42 PM

Quote from: Motspur Park on February 09, 2023, 08:08:01 AM
Suspect it may be the end of Tom's season. Had a very good game last night. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Why do you suspect its the end of Tom's season?

Cos his knees are made of weetabix?
I saw the Insta post earlier also, glad it's not to bad as he was immense last night. Like to see him play more tbf, especially against Leeds in the next cup game

Quote from: FFCBadger on February 09, 2023, 03:09:10 PM

Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on February 09, 2023, 02:11:42 PM

Quote from: Motspur Park on February 09, 2023, 08:08:01 AM
Suspect it may be the end of Tom's season. Had a very good game last night. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Why do you suspect its the end of Tom's season?

Cos his knees are made of weetabix?
I saw the Insta post earlier also, glad it's not to bad as he was immense last night. Like to see him play more tbf, especially against Leeds in the next cup game

The injury was not to his knees, so surely that has nothing to do with anything this time?

Quote from: Sting of the North on February 09, 2023, 03:14:51 PM

Quote from: FFCBadger on February 09, 2023, 03:09:10 PM

Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on February 09, 2023, 02:11:42 PM

Quote from: Motspur Park on February 09, 2023, 08:08:01 AM
Suspect it may be the end of Tom's season. Had a very good game last night. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

Why do you suspect its the end of Tom's season?

Cos his knees are made of weetabix?
I saw the Insta post earlier also, glad it's not to bad as he was immense last night. Like to see him play more tbf, especially against Leeds in the next cup game

The injury was not to his knees, so surely that has nothing to do with anything this time?

My concern was the way in which he went off and another site claiming he had been taken to hospital. Whilst not the same, I had cruciate damage sustained similar to circumstances as Tom encountered last night and though I played again, it was virtually the end of me playing at that level.... and still have related joint problems to this day.

Chelsea put their new signings in against us within a day of signing in both recent matches and they both did ok ... bar the first guy getting himself sent off!

Not really understanding the Hyperbole when Cairney himself has come out and said it's not that bad. So many doom and gloom merchants amongst our fans.

Notice pereira hobbling a bit at the end - that would be a REAL concern for me

Quote from: shepperton white on February 09, 2023, 06:33:20 PM
Notice pereira hobbling a bit at the end - that would be a REAL concern for me

Thought Tete was uncomfortable when he came off.  Could be a fingers crossed weekend.

any news on reeds injury?

Cairney himself said not too bad.Why would he sugarcoat it? Very good news that imo.

Reed if out then lukic comes in,he knows mitros game and movement already,so could work in our favour.

Harrison Reed has an article on official website today and makes no mention of injury or that he won't play tomorrow. Talks about competition with Sasa Lukic but looking to keep his place. So maybe the injury wasn't that bad and he's available for tomorrow.

Yes, injuries have to happen but with us it always seems to hit in one place and usually where we have the weakest cover. In this instance two of our midfielders , which leaves us with two players for the three midfield places.
Doubt if Lukic will have bedded in yet, Oh why didn't we complete that deal early in the window.

Guess the ever reliable BDR will take Reed,s place.

Quote from: filham on February 10, 2023, 01:09:54 PM
Yes, injuries have to happen but with us it always seems to hit in one place and usually where we have the weakest cover. In this instance two of our midfielders , which leaves us with two players for the three midfield places.
Doubt if Lukic will have bedded in yet, Oh why didn't we complete that deal early in the window.

Guess the ever reliable BDR will take Reed,s place.

Glass is really half empty, is it?

Firstly, we don't even know if both, or any, of Reed and TC will miss the game tomorrow. Secondly, we dio have more than two players for those three positions as we have brought in Lukic (which you acknowledge later). Thirdly, Lukic is not coming back from injury, ha has been playing quite a few games, including the World Cup this season and Reed's position is really the one that most people believe he is most suited to. He would likely be less of a risk to play instead of BDR who hasn't really ever played that position in Silva's team (and who we also need on the wing).

I suspect that if we don't have injuries, Lukic won't start. However, he is a seasoned professional that was brought in for precisely this purpose. It will be fine if he has to start as the rest of the team as far as we know will be the usual line up.

Quote from: Sting of the North on February 10, 2023, 01:45:54 PM

Quote from: filham on February 10, 2023, 01:09:54 PM
Yes, injuries have to happen but with us it always seems to hit in one place and usually where we have the weakest cover. In this instance two of our midfielders , which leaves us with two players for the three midfield places.
Doubt if Lukic will have bedded in yet, Oh why didn't we complete that deal early in the window.

Guess the ever reliable BDR will take Reed,s place.

Glass is really half empty, is it?

Firstly, we don't even know if both, or any, of Reed and TC will miss the game tomorrow. Secondly, we dio have more than two players for those three positions as we have brought in Lukic (which you acknowledge later). Thirdly, Lukic is not coming back from injury, ha has been playing quite a few games, including the World Cup this season and Reed's position is really the one that most people believe he is most suited to. He would likely be less of a risk to play instead of BDR who hasn't really ever played that position in Silva's team (and who we also need on the wing).

I suspect that if we don't have injuries, Lukic won't start. However, he is a seasoned professional that was brought in for precisely this purpose. It will be fine if he has to start as the rest of the team as far as we know will be the usual line up.

:plus one:

Silva has confirmed TC unavailable,  Reed OK, Cedric and Sasa Lukic will be in the squad.

Quote from: Sloth on February 09, 2023, 10:43:42 PM
Cairney himself said not too bad.Why would he sugarcoat it? Very good news that imo.

When did he say this? The way I read his tweet above is that he isn't quite sure about the severity of his injury as he says his fingers are crossed that the injury isn't too bad (followed by a confounded face emoji).   

Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 10, 2023, 02:11:46 PM

Quote from: Sloth on February 09, 2023, 10:43:42 PM
Cairney himself said not too bad.Why would he sugarcoat it? Very good news that imo.

When did he say this? The way I read his tweet above is that he isn't quite sure about the severity of his injury as he says his fingers are crossed that his injury isn't too bad (then he added a confounded face emoji).   

Yes I read it that way too and that explains why he's out for tomorrow. Hopefully he'll be back soon.