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Title: New Striker
Post by: Peabody on October 24, 2023, 07:54:07 PM
How about Jack Clark from Sunderland, scored against us last season
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: RAY Rock ???? on October 24, 2023, 08:02:53 PM
He is not a striker he is a winger but  There is something definitely in Jack Clarke he was a good youngster went to spurs never got a game and was loaned around a few clubs but has found a home at Sunderland and has recaptured his form from young I wouldn't be against signing him he reminds me of Kane as a youngster being farmed out to loads of different clubs until a manager shows faith and gives the player a chance . Not sure he will be on Siva's radar though.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: General on October 24, 2023, 09:13:47 PM
We have to bring in someone who has undoubted quality in Europe and ideally the premiership.

Jack Clarke is unproven and a risk in the same way vini, jimenez are.

We need a bonafide striker we can start relying on.

It was a mistake to sell mitro, deeply difficult to replace for a club like ours.

January will be extremely important.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Whitestone on October 24, 2023, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:13:47 PMWe have to bring in someone who has undoubted quality in Europe and ideally the premiership.

Jack Clarke is unproven and a risk in the same way vini, jimenez are.

We need a bonafide striker we can start relying on.

It was a mistake to sell mitro, deeply difficult to replace for a club like ours.

January will be extremely important.

The mistake was not replacing him.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: General on October 24, 2023, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on October 24, 2023, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:13:47 PMWe have to bring in someone who has undoubted quality in Europe and ideally the premiership.

Jack Clarke is unproven and a risk in the same way vini, jimenez are.

We need a bonafide striker we can start relying on.

It was a mistake to sell mitro, deeply difficult to replace for a club like ours.

January will be extremely important.

The mistake was not replacing him.

That wasn't the mistake, they brought in Jiminez as a possible replacement as well as traore to sure things up. One is a sick note currently and the other is showing promise but is struggling to find the back of the net.

It was a mistake letting Mitro go, because getting a striker of that quality is particularly hard to find, especially for a club our size.

Brentford found Toney, villa got Watkins..but aside from those two it's hard.. hence why ge got the plaudits he did.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on October 24, 2023, 10:30:59 PM
He wanted to go - we couldn't force him to stay.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: jayffc on October 24, 2023, 10:40:45 PM
Looks Like Gift Orbans valuation might be significantly lower than previous this January. Could be worth a punt, struggling for form so far this year. If he could be picked up for 15m-20 wouldn't mind bringing him in and moving on Muniz permanently or on loan if he's not getting game time.

Meanwhile Guerrasy continues to score in the Bundesliga and will surely be out of reach if we went back with another offer.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: General on October 24, 2023, 10:46:06 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on October 24, 2023, 10:30:59 PMHe wanted to go - we couldn't force him to stay.

I mean, Palhinha is a prime example and recent one of how that just isn't true.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Thailand Mick on October 25, 2023, 05:17:02 AM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on October 24, 2023, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:13:47 PMWe have to bring in someone who has undoubted quality in Europe and ideally the premiership.

Jack Clarke is unproven and a risk in the same way vini, jimenez are.

We need a bonafide striker we can start relying on.

It was a mistake to sell mitro, deeply difficult to replace for a club like ours.

January will be extremely important.

The mistake was not replacing him.

That wasn't the mistake, they brought in Jiminez as a possible replacement as well as traore to sure things up. One is a sick note currently and the other is showing promise but is struggling to find the back of the net.

It was a mistake letting Mitro go, because getting a striker of that quality is particularly hard to find, especially for a club our size.

Brentford found Toney, villa got Watkins..but aside from those two it's hard.. hence why ge got the plaudits he did.
And I believe we looked at signing both Watkins(Exeter)and Toney(Peterborough) and never took the chance where as Brentford did.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Whitestone on October 25, 2023, 07:25:27 AM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on October 24, 2023, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:13:47 PMWe have to bring in someone who has undoubted quality in Europe and ideally the premiership.

Jack Clarke is unproven and a risk in the same way vini, jimenez are.

We need a bonafide striker we can start relying on.

It was a mistake to sell mitro, deeply difficult to replace for a club like ours.

January will be extremely important.

The mistake was not replacing him.

That wasn't the mistake, they brought in Jiminez as a possible replacement as well as traore to sure things up. One is a sick note currently and the other is showing promise but is struggling to find the back of the net.

It was a mistake letting Mitro go, because getting a striker of that quality is particularly hard to find, especially for a club our size.

Brentford found Toney, villa got Watkins..but aside from those two it's hard.. hence why ge got the plaudits he did.

I'm not so certain that Jiminez was brought in as a possible  Mitro replacement. I think the club were planning to go with  Mitro and  Jiminez. Vinicius and Muniz were both linked to other clubs in the window. Unfortunately the best laid plans don't always pan out the way you want.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: MickTheBeard on October 25, 2023, 07:43:19 AM
The problem is more than a striker as a team with a forward missing or injured our team don't score enough,if you look at Everton once silva left  without their no9 who is always injured they as a team they don't score enough,I believe the team formation needs adjusting
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Shredhead on October 25, 2023, 08:31:04 AM
Can't Marco buy use his influence to buy someone from Portugal? Hernandez has scored 7.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Lordedmundo on October 25, 2023, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: jayffc on October 24, 2023, 10:40:45 PMLooks Like Gift Orbans valuation might be significantly lower than previous this January. Could be worth a punt, struggling for form so far this year. If he could be picked up for 15m-20 wouldn't mind bringing him in and moving on Muniz permanently or on loan if he's not getting game time.

Meanwhile Guerrasy continues to score in the Bundesliga and will surely be out of reach if we went back with another offer.

Of all the strikers we have been linked with - Gift Orban looks by far the best when you watch his YouTube goals/highlights.  His goals to games ratio is great as well when you look at his stats, even though his form seems to have has dropped off a bit recently. Different type of player to Mitro - but if he scores goals, who cares!

The fact that we already have three Nigerian's in the squad would also help persuade him to join us you would imagine...

Agreed on Guirassy.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Bassey the warrior on October 25, 2023, 10:08:29 AM
Quote from: MickTheBeard on October 25, 2023, 07:43:19 AMThe problem is more than a striker as a team with a forward missing or injured our team don't score enough,if you look at Everton once silva left  without their no9 who is always injured they as a team they don't score enough,I believe the team formation needs adjusting

What formation would you suggest? If it's 4-4-2 that's not going to work as we'd be far too open defensively.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: hovewhite on October 25, 2023, 12:13:52 PM
January window trying to sign a striker I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: ffc73 on October 25, 2023, 12:55:32 PM
January strikers, a Mitrovic rather than a Mitroglou please...
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Cambridge Away on October 25, 2023, 03:39:27 PM
Quote from: ffc73 on October 25, 2023, 12:55:32 PMJanuary strikers, a Mitrovic rather than a Mitroglou please...
Mitroglou was quality. Just never fit for us. But yeah, we need a striker that can hit the ground running. Other than Mitrog, Mitrov and McCormack the Khan's have really scrimped on strikers in their tenure. It's like they had the PTSD of an Al-Fayed-Marlet, without the Al-Fayed-Marlet. If that makes sense  ::smile::
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Jims Dentist on October 25, 2023, 03:43:02 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on October 25, 2023, 07:25:27 AM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:36:08 PM
Quote from: Whitestone on October 24, 2023, 09:22:35 PM
Quote from: General on October 24, 2023, 09:13:47 PMWe have to bring in someone who has undoubted quality in Europe and ideally the premiership.

Jack Clarke is unproven and a risk in the same way vini, jimenez are.

We need a bonafide striker we can start relying on.

It was a mistake to sell mitro, deeply difficult to replace for a club like ours.

January will be extremely important.

The mistake was not replacing him.

That wasn't the mistake, they brought in Jiminez as a possible replacement as well as traore to sure things up. One is a sick note currently and the other is showing promise but is struggling to find the back of the net.

It was a mistake letting Mitro go, because getting a striker of that quality is particularly hard to find, especially for a club our size.

Brentford found Toney, villa got Watkins..but aside from those two it's hard.. hence why ge got the plaudits he did.

I'm not so certain that Jiminez was brought in as a possible  Mitro replacement. I think the club were planning to go with  Mitro and  Jiminez. Vinicius and Muniz were both linked to other clubs in the window. Unfortunately the best laid plans don't always pan out the way you want.
The number 9 shirt has not been allocated yet.
Hopefully that tells us something.
Would need to move one on if a central striker does come in
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: filham on October 25, 2023, 04:52:37 PM
It has now been said hundreds of times on this board, we need to replace Mitro, we have already tried but failed dismally with Muniz , Vinnie and Jiminez. What do we do next, prepare to pay more, say £60m or so, that makes it a bigger gamble and there is the question of whether the player wants a move to the the Cottage and if his club is prepared to release him.

A strike hitting 15 goals a season in the premier league is likely to be happy where he is and only attracted to move for a big offer from a top six club.

We have a huge problem and TK has to be careful not to let more money find its way down the transfer drain.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PM
Money down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Deuce on October 25, 2023, 05:20:04 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PMMoney down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
You wont be able to get a quality striker on loan.

And yes, there is always a risk of a big money signing not showing up. But with good scouting that risk is reduced quite a lot.
Raul was a cheap gamble that didnt pay off, and instead of the club sorting out a striker from the start - we are now dealing with the consequences of that decision

Id rather we spend
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: toshes mate on October 25, 2023, 06:58:28 PM
I think the crucial thought process that has been almost entirely absent since Rigg left is the ability to produce options in the critical positions football presents. Even a two year old sticking a pin blindly will nail the donkey's tail where it is supposed to be once in a while but good recruiters just make it look so easy.

Since recruiters all work from the same database with the same data then there has to be a human element to make the difference. I don't see much evidence of teamwork in recruitment esepcially when there is bound to be many options available to players. Mitrovic fell into our lap and what do we do with the success he gifted us, we flog him just before the window closes. That seems brainless to me.

But at least Marco like the security of a new contract just in case things to awry (as they well might) over the next eight months or so, although I doubt Khan Senior will want him gone regardless. 

But can the upper echelons sort out recruitment properly please because some of nearest rivals do it ever so much better than we do.  Oh yes and you should never have let Mitro go - just what were you thinking?

       
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: LC on October 26, 2023, 04:07:19 PM
I saw this online which is interesting:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12666327/amp/Fulham-target-bargain-release-clause-15m-Serhou-Guirassy-red-hot-striker-outscoring-Harry-Kane-Bundesliga-puts-clubs-alert-astonishing-14-goals-eight-games.html
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: LittleErn on October 26, 2023, 06:09:44 PM
How about McTominay? He would give us the physical presence in the box that we currently lack. I know he's not considered to be a striker but he has scored some good goals recently. 🪁
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: nina_067 on October 26, 2023, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PMMoney down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
agree, the money we got from selling mitro is probably being used to pay our debts. in jan it'd be nice to loan a striker from a well-performing european club, but i think its gonna be really difficult to build on last years success tbh
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Somerset Fulham on October 26, 2023, 06:23:18 PM
There was nothing that the club could do to hold on to The Mercenary and we simply got very lucky with Palhinha that Bayern came in so late for him. Had it been two days earlier then Palhinha would now be gone too.

Additionally, Jiminez was never bought in as a replacement for The Mercenary, he was a back up to him.

Of course there is something amiss up front at the moment and a better centre forward would be more than handy, but I also have an inkling that Marco isn't entirely sure how to deploy the talent he has to chose from and that is stifling creativity somewhat.

Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: copthornemike on October 26, 2023, 06:42:36 PM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on October 25, 2023, 08:35:25 AM
Quote from: jayffc on October 24, 2023, 10:40:45 PMLooks Like Gift Orbans valuation might be significantly lower than previous this January. Could be worth a punt, struggling for form so far this year. If he could be picked up for 15m-20 wouldn't mind bringing him in and moving on Muniz permanently or on loan if he's not getting game time.

Meanwhile Guerrasy continues to score in the Bundesliga and will surely be out of reach if we went back with another offer.

Of all the strikers we have been linked with - Gift Orban looks by far the best when you watch his YouTube goals/highlights.  His goals to games ratio is great as well when you look at his stats, even though his form seems to have has dropped off a bit recently. Different type of player to Mitro - but if he scores goals, who cares!

The fact that we already have three Nigerian's in the squad would also help persuade him to join us you would imagine...

Agreed on Guirassy.
African Cup of Nations might be a problem every season!
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Twig on October 26, 2023, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: nina_067 on October 26, 2023, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PMMoney down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
agree, the money we got from selling mitro is probably being used to pay our debts. in jan it'd be nice to loan a striker from a well-performing european club, but i think its gonna be really difficult to build on last years success tbh

No club is likely to release a proven, quality striker on loan mid season. I just don't see that happening. We're more likely to end up with yet another bang average striker to add to our current triumvirate.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: davew on October 26, 2023, 07:25:11 PM
Quote from: Twig on October 26, 2023, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: nina_067 on October 26, 2023, 06:19:21 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PMMoney down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
agree, the money we got from selling mitro is probably being used to pay our debts. in jan it'd be nice to loan a striker from a well-performing european club, but i think its gonna be really difficult to build on last years success tbh

No club is likely to release a proven, quality striker on loan mid season. I just don't see that happening. We're more likely to end up with yet another bang average striker to add to our current triumvirate.
Where are Knockaert and Cavaleiro when you need them?  ::wine::
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Willham on October 26, 2023, 07:34:51 PM
Quote from: ffc73 on October 25, 2023, 12:55:32 PMJanuary strikers, a Mitrovic rather than a Mitroglou please...

I quite recently found out that mitroglou was pretty good after leaving us, we are basically like a little blip in a otherwise prolific career. Sure wiki supports this too.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Nero on October 26, 2023, 09:21:33 PM
If Everton get deducted 12 points and are struggling and need money a low bid in for Calvert-Lewin, not a great goalscoring record but reckon Silva could make him
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Jims Dentist on October 26, 2023, 09:26:38 PM
Quote from: Nero on October 26, 2023, 09:21:33 PMIf Everton get deducted 12 points and are struggling and need money a low bid in for Calvert-Lewin, not a great goalscoring record but reckon Silva could make him
Good striker when fit.
But has been very injury prone last two seasons.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: LC on October 27, 2023, 12:03:46 AM
Quote from: jayffc on October 24, 2023, 10:40:45 PMLooks Like Gift Orbans valuation might be significantly lower than previous this January. Could be worth a punt, struggling for form so far this year. If he could be picked up for 15m-20 wouldn't mind bringing him in and moving on Muniz permanently or on loan if he's not getting game time.

Meanwhile Guerrasy continues to score in the Bundesliga and will surely be out of reach if we went back with another offer.

I'm not so sure, we continued to get linked with Guirassy, I think we might come in for him
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: The Rational Fan on October 27, 2023, 12:30:25 AM
Only Six Players in Five positions (GK, RB, LB, DM and LW) have better significant better statistics than Vinicius and Jiménez, so why is the centre forward position being singled out? We currently have six weak positions filled by players (Diop, Ream, Reed, Periera, Wilson and Vinicius) that each aren't playing in their first nine games as well as they did last season. Each squad player has 11 games to cement their place in the starting XI or we should consider upgrading them.

Hopefully some of our players will return to last seasons form before the winter transfer window; but for the positions that don't improve before the transfer window our budget can probably upgrade either "one centre forward" or "any two other positions". If its possible, I would prefer two upgrades elsewhere maybe centre back and centre midfield to build our spine, than our than spend all our money on one striker.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: LC on October 27, 2023, 01:17:16 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 27, 2023, 12:30:25 AMOnly Six Players in Five positions (GK, RB, LB, DM and LW) have better significant better statistics than Vinicius and Jiménez, so why is the centre forward position being singled out? We currently have six weak positions filled by players (Diop, Ream, Reed, Periera, Wilson and Vinicius) that each aren't playing in their first nine games as well as they did last season. Each squad player has 11 games to cement their place in the starting XI or we should consider upgrading them.

Hopefully some of our players will return to last seasons form before the winter transfer window; but for the positions that don't improve before the transfer window our budget can probably upgrade either "one centre forward" or "any two other positions". If its possible, I would prefer two upgrades elsewhere maybe centre back and centre midfield to build our spine, than our than spend all our money on one striker.

You can't win games if you don't score. Bringing in a forward is vital for us. Mitrovic transformed how we played, he was an outlet for our defence if needed and scored goals- we need a replacement
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: ianthailand on October 27, 2023, 01:20:54 AM
Quote from: Nero on October 26, 2023, 09:21:33 PMIf Everton get deducted 12 points and are struggling and need money a low bid in for Calvert-Lewin, not a great goalscoring record but reckon Silva could make him
On the treatment table more than the pitch.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: ..FOF.. on October 27, 2023, 01:55:02 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on October 25, 2023, 12:13:52 PMJanuary window trying to sign a striker I'm not holding my breath.

First, one or two current strikers need to be let go, and recalling Jay is a no-brainer.

None of the management should be taking a holiday in December in order to ensure a successful outcome for this transfer window.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: hovewhite on October 27, 2023, 03:42:47 AM
Quote from: ..FOF.. on October 27, 2023, 01:55:02 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on October 25, 2023, 12:13:52 PMJanuary window trying to sign a striker I'm not holding my breath.

First, one or two current strikers need to be let go, and recalling Jay is a no-brainer.

None of the management should be taking a holiday in December in order to ensure a successful outcome for this transfer window.
FOF this is an SOS to a striker that can come in and make an impact.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Cobh Fulham Fan on October 27, 2023, 07:16:54 AM
There are three repeated themes coming through on this Striker thread.  One - seems to be suggest we could maybe pick up a half decent but average striker (many names suggested) who Silva could use his magic on and make great. Well, if thats the case why hasn't that magic worked on the three current strikers we have?

Two - there seems to be a divide in views between what we can and should spend on a good replacement to come somewhere near matching Mitro's goal scoring numbers. Some suggesting it might be too risky spending big money (Mitro money) if that new striker didn't work out. But surely the bigger question should be, can we afford not to spend £40million or £50 million on such a replacement?  we already tried the cheap band aid solution that has us where we are now.

three - Mitro, Mitro, Mitro, people just simply cant let him go on here.  Lets not forgot Mitro was absent for more than eight games last season and we still motored on and won games without him - probably because everyone else was on song and their heads were in a good team spirit place. Our problem now, is because we are still in need of a striker, we are left with the yard-stick of Mitro to compare and measure the quality of others in the market.  But has anyone considered yet that there is no other Mitros out there and as soon as we stop thinking Mitro and settle for second best, maybe then we can get our season back on track. Spend £40 million on the best thats available and if he can score only half the goals that Mitro had, then we'll still have a top half finish this season.

We really need to release the ghost of Mitro past from these pages!
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: The Rational Fan on October 27, 2023, 07:26:54 AM
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on October 27, 2023, 07:16:54 AMThere are three repeated themes coming through on this Striker thread.  One - seems to be suggest we could maybe pick up a half decent but average striker (many names suggested) who Silva could use his magic on and make great. Well, if thats the case why hasn't that magic worked on the three current strikers we have?

Two - there seems to be a divide in views between what we can and should spend on a good replacement to come somewhere near matching Mitro's goal scoring numbers. Some suggesting it might be too risky spending big money (Mitro money) if that new striker didn't work out. But surely the bigger question should be, can we afford not to spend £40million or £50 million on such a replacement?  we already tried the cheap band aid solution that has us where we are now.

three - Mitro, Mitro, Mitro, people just simply cant let him go on here.  Lets not forgot Mitro was absent for more than eight games last season and we still motored on and won games without him - probably because everyone else was on song and their heads were in a good team spirit place. Our problem now, is because we are still in need of a striker, we are left with the yard-stick of Mitro to compare and measure the quality of others in the market.  But has anyone considered yet that there is no other Mitros out there and as soon as we stop thinking Mitro and settle for second best, maybe then we can get our season back on track. Spend £40 million on the best thats available and if he can score only half the goals that Mitro had, then we'll still have a top half finish this season.

We really need to release the ghost of Mitro past from these pages!

An alternative solution is improve with the budget we have i) the defence so we need to score less goals, ii) improve the players around the centre forward to score more goals and iii) improve the service to the centre forward to provide more chances which will lead to more goals.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Cobh Fulham Fan on October 27, 2023, 07:39:08 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on October 27, 2023, 07:26:54 AM
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on October 27, 2023, 07:16:54 AMThere are three repeated themes coming through on this Striker thread.  One - seems to be suggest we could maybe pick up a half decent but average striker (many names suggested) who Silva could use his magic on and make great. Well, if thats the case why hasn't that magic worked on the three current strikers we have?

Two - there seems to be a divide in views between what we can and should spend on a good replacement to come somewhere near matching Mitro's goal scoring numbers. Some suggesting it might be too risky spending big money (Mitro money) if that new striker didn't work out. But surely the bigger question should be, can we afford not to spend £40million or £50 million on such a replacement?  we already tried the cheap band aid solution that has us where we are now.

three - Mitro, Mitro, Mitro, people just simply cant let him go on here.  Lets not forgot Mitro was absent for more than eight games last season and we still motored on and won games without him - probably because everyone else was on song and their heads were in a good team spirit place. Our problem now, is because we are still in need of a striker, we are left with the yard-stick of Mitro to compare and measure the quality of others in the market.  But has anyone considered yet that there is no other Mitros out there and as soon as we stop thinking Mitro and settle for second best, maybe then we can get our season back on track. Spend £40 million on the best thats available and if he can score only half the goals that Mitro had, then we'll still have a top half finish this season.

We really need to release the ghost of Mitro past from these pages!

An alternative solution is improve with the budget we have i) the defence so we need to score less goals, ii) improve the players around the centre forward to score more goals and iii) improve the service to the centre forward to provide more chances which will lead to more goals.

Thats certainly a good option also!
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: filham on October 27, 2023, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PMMoney down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
Correct but where is the top striker sitting idle ready to come on loan to the Cottage, only at one of the big six clubs I imagine.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: alfie on October 27, 2023, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: filham on October 27, 2023, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PMMoney down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
Correct but where is the top striker sitting idle ready to come on loan to the Cottage, only at one of the big six clubs I imagine.
Don't know, just saying.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Lordedmundo on October 27, 2023, 03:30:46 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 27, 2023, 12:14:57 PM
Quote from: filham on October 27, 2023, 10:52:40 AM
Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2023, 05:02:06 PMMoney down the drain is always a risk, you get a layer in but until they actually play you don't know how they will perform, that's why loans are good as you can get rid of them.
Correct but where is the top striker sitting idle ready to come on loan to the Cottage, only at one of the big six clubs I imagine.
Don't know, just saying.


On a recent Fulhamish Jack and Joe show, they suggested Broja from Chelsea or Nketiah from Arsenal on loan. Not beyond the realms of possibility - especially if Toney joins one of them when the window opens...
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: WindyCity on October 27, 2023, 04:11:34 PM
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on October 27, 2023, 07:16:54 AMthree - Mitro, Mitro, Mitro, people just simply cant let him go on here.  Lets not forgot Mitro was absent for more than eight games last season and we still motored on and won games without him - probably because everyone else was on song and their heads were in a good team spirit place. Our problem now, is because we are still in need of a striker, we are left with the yard-stick of Mitro to compare and measure the quality of others in the market.  But has anyone considered yet that there is no other Mitros out there and as soon as we stop thinking Mitro and settle for second best, maybe then we can get our season back on track. Spend £40 million on the best thats available and if he can score only half the goals that Mitro had, then we'll still have a top half finish this season. We really need to release the ghost of Mitro past from these pages!

Thank you good sir for pointing this out.  Way too much hand wringing over the Metro departure.  And yes, this club still won games/points without his services for quite a few games last season.  Sure, a quality striker would be nice, but maybe another attacking forward/winger with goal scoring history/capability might be worth picking up?
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: vancouver on October 30, 2023, 05:29:58 AM
Top Scorer has 2 after 10 games. Already having an injury crisis on the backline with our youngest CB Tosin leaving on a free, with zero depth. We have Silva signed now we need to give him a budget.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: hovewhite on October 30, 2023, 05:48:12 AM
NOTE TO TK
Nobody can guarantee how a striker is going to perform for his new side,all you can do is get one in who is in hot form for his present team whilst also has a goal scoring history of the last couple of seasons.
So whoever comes in it needs him to be properly
Scouted and watched in person like (hate to say this)they did traditionally whilst also checking his ambitions,character,team attitude
All this type of stuff which can't be done with a computer.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Thailand Mick on October 30, 2023, 06:04:33 AM
I only managed to watch the first 30 minutes of yesterdays game before the stream failed and I couldn't get it back ,I was shocked at how bad we were and if people think signing one striker will solve our problem then I cannot see it. we have been found out and most teams now know how to play against us, we have tried all different personnel in the same formation and we still have the same problems. We are making it too easy for the opposition, we need to give them something different to think about. From what I saw of those thirty minutes a non league side would have posed more problems to Brighton than us.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: Roberty on October 30, 2023, 07:01:25 AM
Quote from: hovewhite on October 30, 2023, 05:48:12 AMNOTE TO TK
Nobody can guarantee how a striker is going to perform for his new side,all you can do is get one in who is in hot form for his present team whilst also has a goal scoring history of the last couple of seasons.
So whoever comes in it needs him to be properly
Scouted and watched in person like (hate to say this)they did traditionally whilst also checking his ambitions,character,team attitude
All this type of stuff which can't be done with a computer.
As far as I am aware, that is how we do it - but TK takes no part in the process - he signs the cheques, takes a bow and says come on you whites at the end

All clubs use stats and a lot use his companies software, in soccer and other sports.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: fatboy13 on October 30, 2023, 07:29:34 AM
Alejo Véliz From spurs on loan could be an option he's only 20 lots of potential.
Very quick player who likes to attack with the ball at his feet very different to our current options.

Like we've all said it's so difficult to get a striker who's in form and is happy to join in January.
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: IloveFFC on November 01, 2023, 09:40:15 AM
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: jayffc on November 01, 2023, 09:53:09 AM
Quote from: IloveFFC on November 01, 2023, 09:40:15 AM

Highly touted by the likes of barca real and spurs

Would be Suprised, hot striking prospects from the dutch league havent always translated across but would be interesting to see if it went down
Title: Re: New Striker
Post by: river phoenix on November 01, 2023, 02:18:04 PM
Quote from: fatboy13 on October 30, 2023, 07:29:34 AMAlejo Véliz From spurs on loan could be an option he's only 20 lots of potential.
Very quick player who likes to attack with the ball at his feet very different to our current options.

Like we've all said it's so difficult to get a striker who's in form and is happy to join in January.

Veliz? Why simple dont give a chance to Muniz and Stansfield instead of developing Spurs player?