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Slavisa Jokanovic leads contenders for West Brom manager's job

Started by cheese pie, March 10, 2019, 08:40:28 PM

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Bring back Slav!

Bring him home!
42 (60.9%)
Give up Milo he's not coming back
27 (39.1%)

Total Members Voted: 69

gezkc

I'd love to see SJ back but even if the Khans saw the error of their ways and begged him to manage us next season, I very much doubt he'd want to come back. He has his pride too.

cheese pie

Quote from: Milo on March 11, 2019, 07:35:37 PM
Have added a Bring Back Slav poll. Hope you don't mind, Cheese pie? I'll remove it if you don't think it fits.

I have no problem with that...already voted myself

David I

When Slav was sacked we were only 3 points from safety !!


The Rational Fan

Slavisa didn't sign a contract, he wanted the option to leave anytime.

If we went down, why does anyone think he would have wanted to stay?

Jimsbeerbelly

Once again, Jokanovic was offered a new contract, Club was prepared to go down with him if he committed. Contract naturally had clauses in it based around relegation, just like the players contracts, but he stalled, and didn't sign.

2 weeks prior to his sacking, he was caught speaking to an un-named Spanish club, it was also thought that he wasn't happy at FFC, and his relationship with Tony Khan was non-existent.

Facts Not Fiction

5 points from 12 games.

Can people just accept he's gone and won't come back.


Woolly Mammoth

  He obviously was not happy. He is better off away from the owners son.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

..FOF..

Maybe the question now is who in the calibre of Joka can be our next coach?

* have led a team to premiership promotion

* able to aggressively challenge the management's policy

toshes mate

Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on March 11, 2019, 10:36:06 PM
Once again, Jokanovic was offered a new contract, Club was prepared to go down with him if he committed. Contract naturally had clauses in it based around relegation, just like the players contracts, but he stalled, and didn't sign.

2 weeks prior to his sacking, he was caught speaking to an un-named Spanish club, it was also thought that he wasn't happy at FFC, and his relationship with Tony Khan was non-existent.
And once again I'll say the contract negotiations were an attempt at misdirection and distraction from the real problems that began immediately after the Wembley 2018 win. 

The Club were simply unfit to construct a team worthy of a PL class manager and the PL itself.  The reasons why are a matter of personal taste but, IMO, the Club as it stands right now would abuse just about anyone who tried to knock it into a much worthier state as a decent club than it is.  We were fortunate to have SJ around to construct something positive out of so much negativity.  The negativity remains, but the positive Jokanovic is long gone.   


The Old Count

Quote from: toshes mate on March 12, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on March 11, 2019, 10:36:06 PM
Once again, Jokanovic was offered a new contract, Club was prepared to go down with him if he committed. Contract naturally had clauses in it based around relegation, just like the players contracts, but he stalled, and didn't sign.

2 weeks prior to his sacking, he was caught speaking to an un-named Spanish club, it was also thought that he wasn't happy at FFC, and his relationship with Tony Khan was non-existent.
And once again I'll say the contract negotiations were an attempt at misdirection and distraction from the real problems that began immediately after the Wembley 2018 win. 

The Club were simply unfit to construct a team worthy of a PL class manager and the PL itself.  The reasons why are a matter of personal taste but, IMO, the Club as it stands right now would abuse just about anyone who tried to knock it into a much worthier state as a decent club than it is.  We were fortunate to have SJ around to construct something positive out of so much negativity.  The negativity remains, but the positive Jokanovic is long gone.   
Spot on observation.   The reason Joka was reluctant to commit to a new contract was the fact that he wanted greater control over recruitment and TK wasn't having that. This was always an issue between Joka and TK.

Hence, when CR joined, TK's emphasis on the new manager being happy with the recruitment model.

Southcoastffc

If Slav wanted to come back I'd waste no time in securing his signature but I think there's more chance that we'll win all our remaining games and finish mid-table.  :016:
The world is made up of electrons, protons, neurons, possibly muons and, definitely, morons.

junior white

I am not surprised, he is a good coach. No chance he will come back here now sadly.


Penfold

I would love him back but voted forget it he won't come back.

ScalleysDad

Quote from: toshes mate on March 12, 2019, 09:45:33 AM
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on March 11, 2019, 10:36:06 PM
Once again, Jokanovic was offered a new contract, Club was prepared to go down with him if he committed. Contract naturally had clauses in it based around relegation, just like the players contracts, but he stalled, and didn't sign.

2 weeks prior to his sacking, he was caught speaking to an un-named Spanish club, it was also thought that he wasn't happy at FFC, and his relationship with Tony Khan was non-existent.
And once again I'll say the contract negotiations were an attempt at misdirection and distraction from the real problems that began immediately after the Wembley 2018 win. 

The Club were simply unfit to construct a team worthy of a PL class manager and the PL itself.  The reasons why are a matter of personal taste but, IMO, the Club as it stands right now would abuse just about anyone who tried to knock it into a much worthier state as a decent club than it is.  We were fortunate to have SJ around to construct something positive out of so much negativity.  The negativity remains, but the positive Jokanovic is long gone.


"PL class manager" remains the great unanswered question though does'nt it? Watford did not give JOka a go, in fact his exit was rather hasty when the stars aligned, and albeit we have the quintessential pigs ear/sows purse scenario he made very little headway in PL tactics, player development and game management. I recall the general consensus on here throughout October was that his time was up and this was accompanied with the seemingly traditional add ons of player unrest and disharmony around the Club. He is now the manager before the last one. Good luck to him if he gets the Baggies job but the FFC rebuild is big enough as it is without yet another set of changes to the coaching staff, rebuilding bridges with playing staff, (those that stick around obviously), and resetting the tone about the place.

Statto

Quote from: ScalleysDad on March 12, 2019, 03:14:24 PM
the FFC rebuild is big enough as it is without yet another set of changes to the coaching staff, rebuilding bridges with playing staff, (those that stick around obviously), and resetting the tone about the place.

Well as it stands we will need to do all that in the summer in any case

Surely bringing Jokanovic back mitigates the need for a "reset"?


Milo

Quote from: Statto on March 12, 2019, 03:23:50 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on March 12, 2019, 03:14:24 PM
the FFC rebuild is big enough as it is without yet another set of changes to the coaching staff, rebuilding bridges with playing staff, (those that stick around obviously), and resetting the tone about the place.

Well as it stands we will need to do all that in the summer in any case

Surely bringing Jokanovic back mitigates the need for a "reset"?

Exactly. "Risk free"..

ScalleysDad

Quote from: Statto on March 12, 2019, 03:23:50 PM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on March 12, 2019, 03:14:24 PM
the FFC rebuild is big enough as it is without yet another set of changes to the coaching staff, rebuilding bridges with playing staff, (those that stick around obviously), and resetting the tone about the place.

Well as it stands we will need to do all that in the summer in any case

Surely bringing Jokanovic back mitigates the need for a "reset"?


The return of JOka by implication is the removal of Parker which in turn is the removal of his new coaching team, Parkers choices and at least one of the team is not a JOka favourite. There were numerous stories coming out of the camp regarding player discontent, too many new faces and most importantly communication difficulties. There might well be some discontent especially if players hoping for a move don't get one, there will have to be new faces so settling in and nurturing will be required and the communication process will have to be kick started again and this time with out Parker. What's that definition of madness analogy again when the previous failings are copied and pasted and tried again? The first half of next season is going to have to be so much better than his last two goes at it so we might as well put every effort into a different path.

Milo

Agreed it needs thought Scalleys but I don't think the ex Spurs U18 coach came to the club thinking Parker is guaranteed to be the Manager next year. I think the "Caretaker" role has been clearly demarcated by the club in press releases etc.

With regards playing staff, I think the majority would want Jokanovic back. A return to good football and the golden years.

The only exception is Gray but it could be argued there are other defensive coaches out there and something has to give. What's more important.. the manager or the defensive coach.. what's the highest risk to replace etc.

Hmm.


west kowloon white

He wouldn't commit to FFC and is takeing his time committing to WBA - draw your own conclusions .

Mike the White

I am a firm believer in never going back though in the Gray case I think it was a good move, but once we are mathematically down, I hope SP gives our kids a run out.  They surely deserve their chance and it would give us an idea who we should keep for championship