Fulham open to offers for Knockaert, Cavaleiro and Onomah

[bobby01]

I'd stick Chalobah in that category, he's been awful, like to see win, lose or draw stats when he's started. Gives away a lot of free kicks.

I tend to agree with you but remember Silva brought him here so he may be given more time.

Chalobah to Silva, has that Onomah to Parker vibe to him. Has plenty of promise and ability, so think he's still absolutely fine for this squad. Appreciate he's been frustrating at times but he also showed really good moments too. Maybe a settled pre season and now embedded into club will help him prosper next season.

Except Chalobah was on the verge of playing regularly for England before his injury and loss of confidence, there is a good player in there.

[ffcthereligion]

Fantastic move from the club. For once it seems they're seeing eye to eye with the fans! I would basically let them go if any offer is received.

As for chalobah I would keep. Think he's better suited to the prem

[Fulham 442]

Buy one and get two free, perhaps.

Depressing isn't it. Frankly all quite hard to shift anyway but especially given their relatively big wages..

[Somerset Fulham]

You can't lump Chalobah in with the other three, he is streets ahead of them.

I think given a full preseason injury free we will start to see a bit more from him. He definitely needs to produce more, but I also think he is definitely capable of it and I expect him to be pushing Reed this coming season.

Onomah has got Sunderland written all over him.  Such a shame, because the potential is there but he just doesn't produce it.

[b+w geezer]

Chalobah and Onomah broadly fulfil the same role,

They look alike and have similar names but one is on the DM side of CM and the other on the AM side. It shous in their playing stats on e.g whoscored.com. Josh had a goal involvement every 201 minutes he played (1 + 3), which was a better ratio than TC or  Serii, though on too low a base for that to mean much. But Chalobah had 0+1 in more playing time (and Reed 0+2 in much more playing time) but were expected to bring more to the party defensively.  Fair to want better than both of the players you mention, but they really aren't all that similar.

[MickTheBeard]

someone said they would keep ivan for squad depth.Its funny im building a new shed base and i would not consider putting him init as i dont think he would add anthing to the concrete.

[ron]

I'd stick Chalobah in that category, he's been awful, like to see win, lose or draw stats when he's started. Gives away a lot of free kicks.

So would I !!

[MickTheBeard]

nocky is on 40k and cav is on 35k aweek, we would get if lucky 5k a week.No one with the amount of players out of contract would buy them.In fact we would get more money for ivan the terribles loud velvet evening jacket he wears.

[Sammyffc]

nocky is on 40k and cav is on 35k aweek, we would get if lucky 5k a week.No one with the amount of players out of contract would buy them.In fact we would get more money for ivan the terribles loud velvet evening jacket he wears.

This made me laugh way more than it should have!

[rebel]

I'd stick Chalobah in that category, he's been awful, like to see win, lose or draw stats when he's started. Gives away a lot of free kicks.

I tend to agree with you but remember Silva brought him here so he may be given more time.

Chalobah to Silva, has that Onomah to Parker vibe to him. Has plenty of promise and ability, so think he's still absolutely fine for this squad. Appreciate he's been frustrating at times but he also showed really good moments too. Maybe a settled pre season and now embedded into club will help him prosper next season.

Except Chalobah was on the verge of playing regularly for England before his injury and loss of confidence, there is a good player in there.

He's had he's moments, but he's looked way off the pace, his idea of a 'tackle' is to push players over. Macro even subbed him at half time in one match. In one match he kept giving the ball away, I lost count of the number of times. You want some consistency, 4 / 5 matches.   

[vancouver]

We've wasted massive wages in recent years. At the expense of our youth development. Christie instead of Spence/Fossey, Cav and Knock instead of Jasper/Adebayo, Onomah instead of Hilton/O'Riley.

[Deeping_white]

We've wasted massive wages in recent years. At the expense of our youth development. Christie instead of Spence/Fossey, Cav and Knock instead of Jasper/Adebayo, Onomah instead of Hilton/O'Riley.

Spence was released before we signed Christie & Fossey has been injured so much that's a pointless comparison, Adebayo is a striker and not a winger and Jasper is playing for a mid table Scottish Premiership team so not really sure he's much of a loss. O'Riley leaving is purely down to SP rather than transfers so can't really blame the club, more the idiot in charge of the team

[AnOldBrownie]

This will be a big overhaul.  Good.

I've always thought our side needed a lot more size and quality for the Prem.

[Pluto]

If we can get any kind of fee for them then surely we do it. I'd let Cav and Knockhaert move on for free if we have to. Maybe keep Onomah as emergency depth if there are no suitors as I believe him being English helps us with premier league squad rules.

[clarkey]

What kind of offer could we possibly get for Cav ? I wouldn't trust him to put my bins out, he'd fall over doing it and put them in the wrong place every time.

Knoc on the other hand would at least get them to the right place but would then fail to understand what he is meant to do with them once in the right place.

Chalobar is way off the mark too at the moment, so maybe if we can afford give him six months to make it or make way.

If we play any of the three of them next season then you know we are struggling.

[Surlyc]

Chalobah and Onomah broadly fulfil the same role,

They look alike and have similar names but one is on the DM side of CM and the other on the AM side. It shous in their playing stats on e.g whoscored.com. Josh had a goal involvement every 201 minutes he played (1 + 3), which was a better ratio than TC or  Serii, though on too low a base for that to mean much. But Chalobah had 0+1 in more playing time (and Reed 0+2 in much more playing time) but were expected to bring more to the party defensively.  Fair to want better than both of the players you mention, but they really aren't all that similar.

I don't disagree, but I meant they were broadly the same in that the primary attribute they bring is their physicality. Reed plays in front of Chalobah and behind Onomah for the reasons you stated, but in both midfields Chalobah/Onomah bring strength and size that Reed lacks.

[filham]

Knockheart, Onoma and Cav., at the best we are going to see some bench warming from Cav and what is their combined wages for the season. Obviously they will not move unless a similar wage offer comes along, what a problem for the club.

[FFC In Oz]

Quick question about Chalobah - did he ever used to play CB for Watford back in the day?  For some reason I have a vague recollection of this but can't be certain

[filham]

Quick question about Chalobah - did he ever used to play CB for Watford back in the day?  For some reason I have a vague recollection of this but can't be certain

Not sure but I think you could be right. In which case with him and BDR on the bench just about all positions are covered for injury.

[Carborundum]

Knocky has underwhelmed from Day 1 and may prove difficult to shift.  Cavaleiro I have a softer spot for, but clearly not a starter next season.  Onomah similar - what he did to Marlon Pack in the play off semi will stay in my memory for a while yet.

Chalobah needs a different midfield set up. And we may well see that come about.  Thinking back to our seasons of success, the midfield revolved around a double act where Danny ran the entire show, bossed everyone around and dragged the team by the scruff of the neck.  To do that he needed an enforcer who combined menace, athleticism and a willingness to stick to the script, which basically ran: Danny won't be more than 5 yards away, so pass it to him.  The player we have to best fit a Dickson Mk2 role would be Chalobah.  Football's moved on a bit since then, but only a bit and a team with a plan can be difficult to score against.

Appreciate that Dickson wasn't everyone's cup of tea.  But I have a pet theory that the team with the most conspicuously scary person on the pitch tend to win at least as much as  they lose.  That would do for next season.