Jimenez

[LittleErn]

I have a suspicion (ONLY a suspicion - I know nothing) that Vini is better suited to a crowded penalty area than Raul who seems to need more space to show his undoubted skill and athleticism. So horses for courses. If we're looking for possession and pressure in the opponents last third then maybe Vini is the man, whereas when we are expecting to be defending for much of the time Raul is more likely to make penetrative runs. Certainly I don't think Vini is the man to play when we are expecting to be a fast-breaking counterattacking team. The question is will Raul do that job?

[Drewry66]

I have a suspicion (ONLY a suspicion - I know nothing) that Vini is better suited to a crowded penalty area than Raul who seems to need more space to show his undoubted skill and athleticism. So horses for courses. If we're looking for possession and pressure in the opponents last third then maybe Vini is the man, whereas when we are expecting to be defending for much of the time Raul is more likely to make penetrative runs. Certainly I don't think Vini is the man to play when we are expecting to be a fast-breaking counterattacking team. The question is will Raul do that job?

I think this is the point. I think RJ will be far more effective in games where we don't have much of the ball against teams who press us high. He was brilliant against arsenal and city for that reason. He is far better than Vini when we have to hit long and in the air. Anything above head height and to be honest Vini is pretty useless. He is much better to feet. I think there is definitely more use for RJ when we have less of the ball to hold up and bring others into play. He nearly scored and set up a few vs city and arsenal doing exactly this. In the Hoffenheim game he also came deep, did a brilliant dummy to set us on the break and ran in behind to get on the end of Robinsons cross.

Think there is too big a reaction to his lack of input on Saturday. They put 11 men behind the ball and every time any of our forward players got the ball they had 3 men surrounding them and he like everyone struggled with that. No one could get to the by line which is the most dangerous threat to get supply to strikers. He goes off and for the first time in the game Willian gets one on one, gets the by line and Vini gets a tap in.

Don't get me wrong. I like Vini and his recent record speaks for itself. His all round play can in some games be lacking but he scores goals and I couldn't understand why he's not been played more. RJ is for me technically a better player and been so unlucky not to score a couple and thus far he's had very little service. He's not really missed any chances and could say partly his fault for not making any but as I say the service has been pretty poor to him as we have t hit our stride yet (sure we will). Look at the incredible stick Vini got for ages and now everyone is clambering to get him in the team. I still think RJ can come good but I completely agree that we need to use both RJ and Vini depending on the opponent.

[LittleErn]

I have a suspicion (ONLY a suspicion - I know nothing) that Vini is better suited to a crowded penalty area than Raul who seems to need more space to show his undoubted skill and athleticism. So horses for courses. If we're looking for possession and pressure in the opponents last third then maybe Vini is the man, whereas when we are expecting to be defending for much of the time Raul is more likely to make penetrative runs. Certainly I don't think Vini is the man to play when we are expecting to be a fast-breaking counterattacking team. The question is will Raul do that job?

I think this is the point. I think RJ will be far more effective in games where we don't have much of the ball against teams who press us high. He was brilliant against arsenal and city for that reason. He is far better than Vini when we have to hit long and in the air. Anything above head height and to be honest Vini is pretty useless. He is much better to feet. I think there is definitely more use for RJ when we have less of the ball to hold up and bring others into play. He nearly scored and set up a few vs city and arsenal doing exactly this. In the Hoffenheim game he also came deep, did a brilliant dummy to set us on the break and ran in behind to get on the end of Robinsons cross.

Think there is too big a reaction to his lack of input on Saturday. They put 11 men behind the ball and every time any of our forward players got the ball they had 3 men surrounding them and he like everyone struggled with that. No one could get to the by line which is the most dangerous threat to get supply to strikers. He goes off and for the first time in the game Willian gets one on one, gets the by line and Vini gets a tap in.

Don't get me wrong. I like Vini and his recent record speaks for itself. His all round play can in some games be lacking but he scores goals and I couldn't understand why he's not been played more. RJ is for me technically a better player and been so unlucky not to score a couple and thus far he's had very little service. He's not really missed any chances and could say partly his fault for not making any but as I say the service has been pretty poor to him as we have t hit our stride yet (sure we will). Look at the incredible stick Vini got for ages and now everyone is clambering to get him in the team. I still think RJ can come good but I completely agree that we need to use both RJ and Vini depending on the opponent.

You say it so much more eloquently than I could Drewery, its exactly what I was trying to say.

[Bassey the warrior]

I think Jimenez is the better player and should be starting over Vini. He needs a bit of luck to get him going, the chance Vini had would have been perfect.

[Bracken White]

Delighted to see Vini score - but do believe that Jimenez is quality ... with Nevland like touches. Personally would start with the former & bring on Jimenez.

[fulhamfever]

442 might not be a bad option

[gang]

I worry that Jimenez has a psychological problem since the accident which affects his heading a ball. He seems to duck slightly when he goes for a header thus missing  ball.