NFR Prostate Cancer

[WindyCity]

Just saw my urologist today and thought I would add an update to this thread.

First off, glad to see so many taking matters into hand and getting preventive attention.  Very important, and this cancer is treatable, especially if caught early on.

Important for all over 50 (earlier if family history):
1) Yearly blood work PSA
2) Yearly digital exam (finger job)

Digital exam very important.  Cancers can be detected with this exam and can be caught in spite of favorable PSA blood results. 

My update is early in thread, some indicated digital not necessary, and some also indicated can be done via ultrasound.  NOT ACCURATE Information.  Digital exam very important and bloodwork sometimes will not tell whole story.  Ultrasounds can be used to detect size of prostate and is an expensive procedure and it is still invasive, requires rectal intrusion.  Just let your doc or urologist do the finger job, it's 10-15 seconds of discomfort and done.   

[sunburywhite]

A few months ago I was told I had stage 4 pancreatic cancer that had spread to my liver. This was discovered when,during a short stay in hospital for something else, I had a scan that revealed the cancer. I was referred to the cancer unit where I am under a very good consultant. He can't make me out: he looks at all the scans and then looks at me and can't understand why I am not experiencing any of the usual symptoms - loss of weight, jaundice, back pain, and more. He has discussed my case with other consultants in the group and all say the scans show I have cancer. Then I am placed in front of them like a goldfish in a bowl and they too can't understand why I am not at death's door.

The reason, I believe, is that I have taken DMSO, a natural product that was all the rage in the 1960s in the USA and used for many ailments, but was banned when the FDA realised it couldn't be patented. Health is a huge business in the States and hospitals would go bust if a cure costing a few dollars was used successfully to treat cancer and many other illnesses instead of drugs costing thousands. So the FDA, which is controlled by the big drug companies, banned it. Politicians have pleaded with the FDA to change their mind, but so far without success, although Kennedy may have more luck. Some doctors use it but keep quiet about it.

I tell other people about DMSO but always get a look that says if doctors aren't prescribing it, it can't work. But it does. So anyone with prostrate problems, please investigate it, DMSO will help. They are thousands of cases where DMSO has been proven to cure many different diseases.

Whether DMSO will cure my cancer is doubtful, it is very advanced; but it is helping me to live without the symtoms, and hopefully for longer. It is also fun watching the doctors who say they are 'flumoxed'. I will tell them one day.

Hope you are OK Gloucester White

[onecupsoon]

I went for all the bloods, not just PSA.  PSA was fine but very high marker found for amylase.  i
a few expensive checks later found gallstones, so I'm having the gallbladder removed on Monday.  Getting it done during an international break just in case H4 is not available for Sunderland.

[ScalleysDad]

I went for all the bloods, not just PSA.  PSA was fine but very high marker found for amylase.  i
a few expensive checks later found gallstones, so I'm having the gallbladder removed on Monday.  Getting it done during an international break just in case H4 is not available for Sunderland.

All the best with that. Allow yourself a bit of recuperation and downtime and eat whatever you darn well fancy.

[sunburywhite]

Even David Cameron has now had it so it doenst discriminate on who gets it

I am now 4 sessions into my treatment, another 16 to go

[Gloucester White]

A few months ago I was told I had stage 4 pancreatic cancer that had spread to my liver. This was discovered when,during a short stay in hospital for something else, I had a scan that revealed the cancer. I was referred to the cancer unit where I am under a very good consultant. He can't make me out: he looks at all the scans and then looks at me and can't understand why I am not experiencing any of the usual symptoms - loss of weight, jaundice, back pain, and more. He has discussed my case with other consultants in the group and all say the scans show I have cancer. Then I am placed in front of them like a goldfish in a bowl and they too can't understand why I am not at death's door.

The reason, I believe, is that I have taken DMSO, a natural product that was all the rage in the 1960s in the USA and used for many ailments, but was banned when the FDA realised it couldn't be patented. Health is a huge business in the States and hospitals would go bust if a cure costing a few dollars was used successfully to treat cancer and many other illnesses instead of drugs costing thousands. So the FDA, which is controlled by the big drug companies, banned it. Politicians have pleaded with the FDA to change their mind, but so far without success, although Kennedy may have more luck. Some doctors use it but keep quiet about it.

I tell other people about DMSO but always get a look that says if doctors aren't prescribing it, it can't work. But it does. So anyone with prostrate problems, please investigate it, DMSO will help. They are thousands of cases where DMSO has been proven to cure many different diseases.

Whether DMSO will cure my cancer is doubtful, it is very advanced; but it is helping me to live without the symtoms, and hopefully for longer. It is also fun watching the doctors who say they are 'flumoxed'. I will tell them one day.

Hope you are OK Gloucester White

Thank you. I feel great, no symptoms at all, which is kind of crazy. Just been to see the oncologist - a fun meeting! Was told I could have palliative chemo and was given a list as long as my arm of side effects. Will talk it over with my family, but first inclination is to refuse it. The chemo will kill off my immune system and leave me susceptible to covid and whatever else is around this winter. It could also interfere with my DMSO. At best it would only add a month or two and doesn't seem worth suffering the side effects.

I was advised to make a will (sensible), and also asked where I wanted to spend my last days (home or hospital), and whether I wanted to be revived! As I say, a fun meeting. I was offered a prognosis but declined - I bet him 50p I would last longer than the figure he had in mind.

[alfie]

A few months ago I was told I had stage 4 pancreatic cancer that had spread to my liver. This was discovered when,during a short stay in hospital for something else, I had a scan that revealed the cancer. I was referred to the cancer unit where I am under a very good consultant. He can't make me out: he looks at all the scans and then looks at me and can't understand why I am not experiencing any of the usual symptoms - loss of weight, jaundice, back pain, and more. He has discussed my case with other consultants in the group and all say the scans show I have cancer. Then I am placed in front of them like a goldfish in a bowl and they too can't understand why I am not at death's door.

The reason, I believe, is that I have taken DMSO, a natural product that was all the rage in the 1960s in the USA and used for many ailments, but was banned when the FDA realised it couldn't be patented. Health is a huge business in the States and hospitals would go bust if a cure costing a few dollars was used successfully to treat cancer and many other illnesses instead of drugs costing thousands. So the FDA, which is controlled by the big drug companies, banned it. Politicians have pleaded with the FDA to change their mind, but so far without success, although Kennedy may have more luck. Some doctors use it but keep quiet about it.

I tell other people about DMSO but always get a look that says if doctors aren't prescribing it, it can't work. But it does. So anyone with prostrate problems, please investigate it, DMSO will help. They are thousands of cases where DMSO has been proven to cure many different diseases.

Whether DMSO will cure my cancer is doubtful, it is very advanced; but it is helping me to live without the symtoms, and hopefully for longer. It is also fun watching the doctors who say they are 'flumoxed'. I will tell them one day.

Hope you are OK Gloucester White

Thank you. I feel great, no symptoms at all, which is kind of crazy. Just been to see the oncologist - a fun meeting! Was told I could have palliative chemo and was given a list as long as my arm of side effects. Will talk it over with my family, but first inclination is to refuse it. The chemo will kill off my immune system and leave me susceptible to covid and whatever else is around this winter. It could also interfere with my DMSO. At best it would only add a month or two and doesn't seem worth suffering the side effects.

I was advised to make a will (sensible), and also asked where I wanted to spend my last days (home or hospital), and whether I wanted to be revived! As I say, a fun meeting. I was offered a prognosis but declined - I bet him 50p I would last longer than the figure he had in mind.

I don't know what to say other than I wish you well.

[Gloucester White]

A few months ago I was told I had stage 4 pancreatic cancer that had spread to my liver. This was discovered when,during a short stay in hospital for something else, I had a scan that revealed the cancer. I was referred to the cancer unit where I am under a very good consultant. He can't make me out: he looks at all the scans and then looks at me and can't understand why I am not experiencing any of the usual symptoms - loss of weight, jaundice, back pain, and more. He has discussed my case with other consultants in the group and all say the scans show I have cancer. Then I am placed in front of them like a goldfish in a bowl and they too can't understand why I am not at death's door.

The reason, I believe, is that I have taken DMSO, a natural product that was all the rage in the 1960s in the USA and used for many ailments, but was banned when the FDA realised it couldn't be patented. Health is a huge business in the States and hospitals would go bust if a cure costing a few dollars was used successfully to treat cancer and many other illnesses instead of drugs costing thousands. So the FDA, which is controlled by the big drug companies, banned it. Politicians have pleaded with the FDA to change their mind, but so far without success, although Kennedy may have more luck. Some doctors use it but keep quiet about it.

I tell other people about DMSO but always get a look that says if doctors aren't prescribing it, it can't work. But it does. So anyone with prostrate problems, please investigate it, DMSO will help. They are thousands of cases where DMSO has been proven to cure many different diseases.

Whether DMSO will cure my cancer is doubtful, it is very advanced; but it is helping me to live without the symtoms, and hopefully for longer. It is also fun watching the doctors who say they are 'flumoxed'. I will tell them one day.

Hope you are OK Gloucester White

Thank you. I feel great, no symptoms at all, which is kind of crazy. Just been to see the oncologist - a fun meeting! Was told I could have palliative chemo and was given a list as long as my arm of side effects. Will talk it over with my family, but first inclination is to refuse it. The chemo will kill off my immune system and leave me susceptible to covid and whatever else is around this winter. It could also interfere with my DMSO. At best it would only add a month or two and doesn't seem worth suffering the side effects.

I was advised to make a will (sensible), and also asked where I wanted to spend my last days (home or hospital), and whether I wanted to be revived! As I say, a fun meeting. I was offered a prognosis but declined - I bet him 50p I would last longer than the figure he had in mind.

I don't know what to say other than I wish you well.

Thanks Alfie, appreciated.

[Burt]

A few months ago I was told I had stage 4 pancreatic cancer that had spread to my liver. This was discovered when,during a short stay in hospital for something else, I had a scan that revealed the cancer. I was referred to the cancer unit where I am under a very good consultant. He can't make me out: he looks at all the scans and then looks at me and can't understand why I am not experiencing any of the usual symptoms - loss of weight, jaundice, back pain, and more. He has discussed my case with other consultants in the group and all say the scans show I have cancer. Then I am placed in front of them like a goldfish in a bowl and they too can't understand why I am not at death's door.

The reason, I believe, is that I have taken DMSO, a natural product that was all the rage in the 1960s in the USA and used for many ailments, but was banned when the FDA realised it couldn't be patented. Health is a huge business in the States and hospitals would go bust if a cure costing a few dollars was used successfully to treat cancer and many other illnesses instead of drugs costing thousands. So the FDA, which is controlled by the big drug companies, banned it. Politicians have pleaded with the FDA to change their mind, but so far without success, although Kennedy may have more luck. Some doctors use it but keep quiet about it.

I tell other people about DMSO but always get a look that says if doctors aren't prescribing it, it can't work. But it does. So anyone with prostrate problems, please investigate it, DMSO will help. They are thousands of cases where DMSO has been proven to cure many different diseases.

Whether DMSO will cure my cancer is doubtful, it is very advanced; but it is helping me to live without the symtoms, and hopefully for longer. It is also fun watching the doctors who say they are 'flumoxed'. I will tell them one day.

Hope you are OK Gloucester White

Thank you. I feel great, no symptoms at all, which is kind of crazy. Just been to see the oncologist - a fun meeting! Was told I could have palliative chemo and was given a list as long as my arm of side effects. Will talk it over with my family, but first inclination is to refuse it. The chemo will kill off my immune system and leave me susceptible to covid and whatever else is around this winter. It could also interfere with my DMSO. At best it would only add a month or two and doesn't seem worth suffering the side effects.

I was advised to make a will (sensible), and also asked where I wanted to spend my last days (home or hospital), and whether I wanted to be revived! As I say, a fun meeting. I was offered a prognosis but declined - I bet him 50p I would last longer than the figure he had in mind.

I don't know what to say other than I wish you well.

I think Alfie sums it up well - difficult to know what to say under the circumstances, but you seem to be giving the medical profession a run for their money, long may it continue!! Best wishes to you and your family.

[Snibbo]

Best wishes @Gloucester White

[ScalleysDad]

Blimey. Do you have any support services you can go to? In my experience it's best to take a few days to digest everything, always a stupid statement when time is a factor, and then make your plan, even if it's just in your head. Then take it to the family. I have sat in several meetings where all the love in the world trips over what the patient feels they can cope with.
All the very, very best.

[sunburywhite]

Amazing attitude Gloucester White, very brave outlook

I can only hope and pray that the DMSO does work for you and you are still around to see us win the league/ win the cup or whatever comes first

[Gloucester White]

Thanks guys, really appreciate your comments. 

The days aren't too bad, I can put it out of my mind then; but the nights are difficult.

[sunburywhite]

My update

I am glad, happy and proud to say I rangthe bell today

4 weeks of radiotherapy finished so in theory my cancerous cells have been killed

No real side effects, couple of dodgy tummies that Imodiam sorted out, 1 UTI which is pretty much finished

I didnt feel that tired like they say you can so all in all a good result

NHS staff were fantastic, my whole journey has had fantastic staff in it so I am lucky with that

Onwards and upwards

[Fulham 442]

My update

I am glad, happy and proud to say I rangthe bell today

4 weeks of radiotherapy finished so in theory my cancerous cells have been killed

No real side effects, couple of dodgy tummies that Imodiam sorted out, 1 UTI which is pretty much finished

I didnt feel that tired like they say you can so all in all a good result

NHS staff were fantastic, my whole journey has had fantastic staff in it so I am lucky with that

Onwards and upwards

What fabulous news! So happy for you and your family. I'm sure your positive outlook has helped tremendously. As you rightly say onwards and upwards. Obviously I don't normally add kisses on threads on FOF but think they're appropriate here! Xx

[Somerset Fulham]

I really am so sorry GW, it must take some serious bollocks to stand up to a prognosis such as that without completely imploding. I am not sure that I could cope with it but I am so glad that you can.

And on the flipside, that is great news, SW. What a relief that must be.

[sunburywhite]

I feel glad for me but so sorry for GW at the same time

I quite agree that I hope you are still beating the doctors

[Twig]

I just caught up with this thread and am delighted to hear that SW got to ring the bell. At the same time I am humbled and moved by GW's courage in the face of such dreadful news.
And to have the balls to bet 50p no less! Now that takes serious cojones GW!

[HV71]

Also only just caught up with this - and I am in awe at the amazing bravery , mental attitude ( and humour ) shown by GW . I couldn't hold a candle to you . The very best of luck to you and your loved ones.
Outstanding news Sunbury White  so delighted to hear your news - bless you both for your openness and fortitude

[jayffc]

Likewise Am blown away by GW, inspiring stuff that will stay with me for sure.
And join the others in wishing you and your family the absolute best.

Also of course glad to hear of your experience SW. Here's to all the gents here who have been, will be or are currently affected by this and credit to those highlighting the full spectrum of experiences.