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Now it's your turn Marco

Started by C Block, April 14, 2026, 03:15:44 PM

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cookieg

Quote from: Jim© on April 15, 2026, 09:15:53 AM
Quote from: cookieg on April 15, 2026, 09:02:55 AMWe may never be a top 4/5/6 club but at least the team should be busting a gut to get better every season.

Well, what's the next best thing to being a top 4/5/6 club? Surely being a 7/8/9 club that challenges for Europe each year and bloodies some of the big boys noses and has a cup run or two. Are we genuinely miles away from that in your opinion?


I was responding to the quote re a top 4/5 club etc but I do want to see us consistently being 7/8/9. That will be progress and as you say blooding youngsters. We had an opportunity last season when were safe and could have brought in more young players to give experience for this season. If we had done this and missed Europe I think the fans would feel that there is something building but Silva stuck with the same players and to be fair Iwobi looked dead on his feet towards the end. King had his chance but we could have put in a young striker to give experience.

And I do think we are miles away from a 7/8/9 team as these last two season have shown because we fall off after March.

Holders

Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on April 14, 2026, 07:32:44 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on April 14, 2026, 05:27:56 PMAs much as I like Marco and I really do, what is the point in finishing 9th-12th and going out of the cups in the 1/4 finals every year. We will just exist, never to achieve anything of note.
Depends on your vintage. There will be many on here who, like me, lived through the dark days of Clay, Bulstrode and Duggan and are probably quite content with where we are.

I don't consciously remember making a pact with the devil when I was on the pitch at half time during the Walsall match in 1987, but if I did he probably got me very easily with to 'just exist, never to achieve anything of note'.

Years ago, I dubbed it mid-table mediocrity.

It might not be as exciting as challenging for promotion in the "Championship" but at least my club has a seat at the top table, even if it is below the salt.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

C Block

Quote from: The Old Count on April 15, 2026, 09:23:07 AMBeen supporting this great club for the thick end of 65 years through bad, worse and even worse than that.
Seen some good times: the Maestro years, revelling in his sublime skills, the Conway, Barrett, Earle years when we hauled our way out of the old third division. The run to Wembly in '75. The Roy years and now the last few years with Marco. It's not all about trophies but a mid table Prem team with a good shot at a cup each year. Not too bad!
But we had a great shout at a Cup this season only for Marco Silva to inexplicably field a weakened team against a Championship side which resulted in us having a three week break,
We had a great chance of a Wembley visit this season but we didn't take it.


Woolly Mammoth

It's been a mediocre season, punched below our weight, and the decision making, whether it's been the starting lineup or substitutions has been amateurish and poor judgement.
The system of play Silva adopts does not work.
We are so predictable it is almost criminal. Slow build ups slow tempo, forever passing back sideways inviting pressure.
Then when somebody does succeed by
 getting round the back of a defence to cross a ball, there is nobody there.
The only player that anticipates is Jiminez. The rest no matter what are never there to support the man on the ball.
We could have achieved more, the potential was there but they adopted safety first, and the ultimate scenario as Fulham are also rans.
So why would decent players join us, they are never ever going to get anywhere near enough winning a goldfish, until the club gets their finger out and comes from behind the settee and show ambition.
It just safety first, I am waiting for the club to announce to the players that they need to wear a Hi Vis vest for health and safety reasons.

Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Jim©

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 15, 2026, 02:19:01 PMIt's been a mediocre season, punched below our weight Well we spent the second least in the league last summer
The system of play Silva adopts does not work well we're still in contention for Europe
We are so predictable it is almost criminal Well we've scored 43 times, so not that predictable
The only player that anticipates is Jiminez. Well you could argue that Wilson has been one of the best players this season and anticipated more than almost all other players in the league (Spurs away goal for instance)
We could have achieved more Well I'd argue that there's about 80 odd teams in the football league that would want to achieve what we do year after year at this moment in time
So why would decent players join us Well they joined Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, they've even been joining Burnley and Spurs!!



Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Jim© on April 15, 2026, 02:30:01 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on April 15, 2026, 02:19:01 PMIt's been a mediocre season, punched below our weight Well we spent the second least in the league last summer
The system of play Silva adopts does not work well we're still in contention for Europe
We are so predictable it is almost criminal Well we've scored 43 times, so not that predictable
The only player that anticipates is Jiminez. Well you could argue that Wilson has been one of the best players this season and anticipated more than almost all other players in the league (Spurs away goal for instance)
We could have achieved more Well I'd argue that there's about 80 odd teams in the football league that would want to achieve what we do year after year at this moment in time
So why would decent players join us Well they joined Bournemouth, Brentford, Brighton, they've even been joining Burnley and Spurs!!



Glad we can agree. ::wine::
 
Always remember that he who feeds the Crocodile the most, hopes he will be the last to be eaten.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


C Block

In other news AFC Bournemouth are close to announcing a replacement for Andoni Iraola,
I do hope all our uncertainty is resolved long before July.

WindyCity

Quote from: Holders on April 15, 2026, 11:18:37 AMYears ago, I dubbed it mid-table mediocrity.  It might not be as exciting as challenging for promotion in the "Championship" but at least my club has a seat at the top table, even if it is below the salt.

Pretty much this for me.  I would delete the word mediocrity.  Mid table is fine with me, maybe a couple nice results v several of the 'top clubs' during a given season.  But, as you say, a seat at the big boys table.  Much rather be in this tough/competitive league, some consider the best league in professional football.  And every once in awhile the team gives us hope for a strong top half finish and a sniff at Euro play.  That's all ok with me, would rather struggle a bit in this very tough league than be in lower tiers. 

Andrew

On this fan site you could believe
The dinasaurs extinction was marco's fault
Global warming, his fault too
Covid? Down to Marco
Global plague and pestilence...also his fault.

Bizarely he managed to get us promoted in a record fashion, kept us safe for all these season with a squad of questinable talent, and one of the lower wage bills, almost exactly representing our league position compared to others.

I think Marco is a  magician to keep us where we are with the squad we have. If we are to kick on we need some more concerted action from our leaders... Marco's hands are tied just like all the previous managers but he is better than they were.

I hate to think who might follow him based on previous appointments.

The owner and Marco should surely have come to terms by now, I cannot believe they have not just agreed to disagree and do not want to make the announcement until season end.


cookieg

Quote from: Andrew on April 15, 2026, 04:51:06 PMOn this fan site you could believe
The dinasaurs extinction was marco's fault
Global warming, his fault too
Covid? Down to Marco
Global plague and pestilence...also his fault.

Bizarely he managed to get us promoted in a record fashion, kept us safe for all these season with a squad of questinable talent, and one of the lower wage bills, almost exactly representing our league position compared to others.

I think Marco is a  magician to keep us where we are with the squad we have. If we are to kick on we need some more concerted action from our leaders... Marco's hands are tied just like all the previous managers but he is better than they were.

I hate to think who might follow him based on previous appointments.

The owner and Marco should surely have come to terms by now, I cannot believe they have not just agreed to disagree and do not want to make the announcement until season end.

The owners spent £100m on 3 players in 2 years that Marco wanted. How exactly were Marco's hands tied? Clearly he isn't to blame for global warming but he is to blame for our season ending when we have achieved safety and not having the managerial skill to really be a strong contender for Europe. And it's not just this season either.

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Andrew on April 15, 2026, 04:51:06 PMOn this fan site you could believe
The dinasaurs extinction was marco's fault
Global warming, his fault too
Covid? Down to Marco
Global plague and pestilence...also his fault.

Bizarely he managed to get us promoted in a record fashion, kept us safe for all these season with a squad of questinable talent, and one of the lower wage bills, almost exactly representing our league position compared to others.

I think Marco is a  magician to keep us where we are with the squad we have. If we are to kick on we need some more concerted action from our leaders... Marco's hands are tied just like all the previous managers but he is better than they were.

I hate to think who might follow him based on previous appointments.

The owner and Marco should surely have come to terms by now, I cannot believe they have not just agreed to disagree and do not want to make the announcement until season end.

I have to protest Marco is innocent of all charges.
Global warming is originally caused by all the hot air coming from this board.
Dinosaurs 🦕 were made extinct by a
Massive Asteroid Impact 66 million years ago, although I have no idea what day of the week it was.
I only survived as I was fortunate enough to seek sanctuary in the Hammy end toilets knowing full well that not even an asteroid would go within a 100 miles of those bogs.
Tommy Cooper was not only a better magician but was also funnier.
As for Covid, there is a profusion of evidence to show that was created at the Excrement End Toilets.
So Marco is not to blame,regarding those accusations that he was responsible for Covid.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Holders

Quote from: WindyCity on April 15, 2026, 03:21:28 PM
Quote from: Holders on April 15, 2026, 11:18:37 AMYears ago, I dubbed it mid-table mediocrity.  It might not be as exciting as challenging for promotion in the "Championship" but at least my club has a seat at the top table, even if it is below the salt.

Pretty much this for me.  I would delete the word mediocrity.  Mid table is fine with me, maybe a couple nice results v several of the 'top clubs' during a given season.  But, as you say, a seat at the big boys table.  Much rather be in this tough/competitive league, some consider the best league in professional football.  And every once in awhile the team gives us hope for a strong top half finish and a sniff at Euro play.  That's all ok with me, would rather struggle a bit in this very tough league than be in lower tiers. 

I have to say that our average position in the top division is somewhat better than when I started supporting in the early 60s. So I suppose that's progress over the past 60 years. Keep that up and who knows?
Non sumus statione ferriviaria


Andrew

Quote from: cookieg on April 15, 2026, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 15, 2026, 04:51:06 PMOn this fan site you could believe
The dinasaurs extinction was marco's fault
Global warming, his fault too
Covid? Down to Marco
Global plague and pestilence...also his fault.

Bizarely he managed to get us promoted in a record fashion, kept us safe for all these season with a squad of questinable talent, and one of the lower wage bills, almost exactly representing our league position compared to others.

I think Marco is a  magician to keep us where we are with the squad we have. If we are to kick on we need some more concerted action from our leaders... Marco's hands are tied just like all the previous managers but he is better than they were.

I hate to think who might follow him based on previous appointments.

The owner and Marco should surely have come to terms by now, I cannot believe they have not just agreed to disagree and do not want to make the announcement until season end.

The owners spent £100m on 3 players in 2 years that Marco wanted. How exactly were Marco's hands tied? Clearly he isn't to blame for global warming but he is to blame for our season ending when we have achieved safety and not having the managerial
Quote from: cookieg on April 15, 2026, 07:00:58 PM
Quote from: Andrew on April 15, 2026, 04:51:06 PMOn this fan site you could believe
The dinasaurs extinction was marco's fault
Global warming, his fault too
Covid? Down to Marco
Global plague and pestilence...also his fault.

Bizarely he managed to get us promoted in a record fashion, kept us safe for all these season with a squad of questinable talent, and one of the lower wage bills, almost exactly representing our league position compared to others.

I think Marco is a  magician to keep us where we are with the squad we have. If we are to kick on we need some more concerted action from our leaders... Marco's hands are tied just like all the previous managers but he is better than they were.

I hate to think who might follow him based on previous appointments.

The owner and Marco should surely have come to terms by now, I cannot believe they have not just agreed to disagree and do not want to make the announcement until season end.

The owners spent £100m on 3 players in 2 years that Marco wanted. How exactly were Marco's hands tied? Clearly he isn't to blame for global warming but he is to blame for our season ending when we have achieved safety and not having the managerial skill to really be a strong contender for Europe. And it's not just this season either.
ll to really be a strong contender for Europe. And it's not just this season either.

The players you mention have arrived too late and as an afterthought... if you care to look at league position V eage bill, we sit where our wage bill puts us. the squad is nowhere near up to kicking on and the critisism is completely unfounded. What is happening is and was predictable from the start of the season. No manager will do better.

To come from the chaos of the previous seasons and to establish ur side as midish table is brilliant. Unfortunately we do not have the commitment to improve recruitment such as they have at Brighton and brentford in which both clubs commited for years to getting top proffesionals to work a brilliqnt system and total buy in from their whole staff (I believe)... we have a more chaotic and amateur approach in my opinion. Maybe Marco wanted those three and maybe he didn't but I don't think they were the best value for money.


we need to assemble virtually the whole before August not the last day of the transfer window.

In any case i think it all academic, I cannot believe Marco will be our manager next season.

MickTheBeard

on paper the only place possible for Marco could go to is notts forest,he managed the owners Greek side and won the league.But his cv in the premier league isn't very promising,yes we stayed up,we haven't got one player worth more than we paid for him,might have broke even on wilson if it wasn't for silva's will he or won't he doesn't encourage youth if he was involved with recruitment that hasn't worked I think he will go abroad and we must move on or what silva left behind will get us relegated.

hovewhite

Quote from: Andrew on April 15, 2026, 04:51:06 PMOn this fan site you could believe
The dinasaurs extinction was marco's fault
Global warming, his fault too
Covid? Down to Marco
Global plague and pestilence...also his fault.

Bizarely he managed to get us promoted in a record fashion, kept us safe for all these season with a squad of questinable talent, and one of the lower wage bills, almost exactly representing our league position compared to others.

I think Marco is a  magician to keep us where we are with the squad we have. If we are to kick on we need some more concerted action from our leaders... Marco's hands are tied just like all the previous managers but he is better than they were.

I hate to think who might follow him based on previous appointments.

The owner and Marco should surely have come to terms by now, I cannot believe they have not just agreed to disagree and do not want to make the announcement until season end.
that's my worry who follows Marco as we won't see his like again.


C Block

Quote from: hovewhite on Today at 07:19:19 AM
Quote from: Andrew on April 15, 2026, 04:51:06 PMOn this fan site you could believe
The dinasaurs extinction was marco's fault
Global warming, his fault too
Covid? Down to Marco
Global plague and pestilence...also his fault.

Bizarely he managed to get us promoted in a record fashion, kept us safe for all these season with a squad of questinable talent, and one of the lower wage bills, almost exactly representing our league position compared to others.

I think Marco is a  magician to keep us where we are with the squad we have. If we are to kick on we need some more concerted action from our leaders... Marco's hands are tied just like all the previous managers but he is better than they were.

I hate to think who might follow him based on previous appointments.

The owner and Marco should surely have come to terms by now, I cannot believe they have not just agreed to disagree and do not want to make the announcement until season end.
that's my worry who follows Marco as we won't see his like again.
People said the same when Roy Hodgson departed.

Bassey the warrior

As frustrated as I've been with Silva's decisions at times this season, it boggles the mind some people would be happy to see him leave.

We're safe and stable, and whilst it would be good to win something you just need to look at the teams that have regularly played European football but are now in a relegation battle. Stability is underrated.

KentFulham

Quote from: Bassey the warrior on Today at 08:59:27 AMAs frustrated as I've been with Silva's decisions at times this season, it boggles the mind some people would be happy to see him leave.

We're safe and stable, and whilst it would be good to win something you just need to look at the teams that have regularly played European football but are now in a relegation battle. Stability is underrated.

We dont have stability, we are likely finishing our lowest in last 3 years, with 25% of our goals coming from Wilson who is likely departing. Without his one off season we would be the second lowest scorers, so I would suggest we dont have stability, we have a team going backwards. There are very little in the way of goals, our defense has barely scored!


Arthur

Quote from: KentFulham on Today at 09:12:58 AMWe dont have stability, we are likely finishing our lowest in last 3 years, with 25% of our goals coming from Wilson who is likely departing. Without his one off season we would be the second lowest scorers, so I would suggest we dont have stability, we have a team going backwards. There are very little in the way of goals, our defense has barely scored!

You could be right and we may be in dire straits next season without Wilson's goal contribution. On a more hopeful note, however, I do recall the same concern being voiced when Mitrovic departed and yet we scored exactly the same number of goals the season after his leaving as that before.

Moreover, while the player who replaces Wilson may not match Harry's tally this season, it is likely he will bag some goals rather than the zero that your point about us being the second-lowest scorers assumes.

SuffolkWhite

All points above are valid depending on your expectations, personally I think Marco has done a good job keeping us midtable. I agree the football at times is crab like but it has given us a foundation to potentially improve on time. If Marco goes so be it, hopefully the next Manager improves.us line Marco did.
Guy goes into the doctor's.
"Doc, I've got a cricket ball stuck up my backside
"How's that?"
"Don't you start"