Perspective

[SuffolkWhite]

There's a lot of good comments above for and against perspective and to a certain extent I agree with both.

My perspective, we were never going to get anything from Arsenal, there tempo was too much for us and we were flogging a dead horse etc etc etc.

The Villa game, we did well and got 3 points but as rightly said above if they could shoot we could have had a very different result. But wins a win a win.

I've  said before, I feel this season we haven't played aswell as last season but somehow we are in a position where Europe is possible. So in many ways our current position in the table is correct and the table rarely lies.

Is Silva off and are the players aware of this, and therefore not so committed? Yes  it's possible but it's all speculation.
I hope the club have a Manager lined up for the end of the season if Silva is off, I also hope we are given the opportunity to say goodbye at the Newcastle game because he has done great things to get us this far.

Perspective and expectations are in the eye of the beholder,
I expect Fulham to stay up each season now we have established ourselves, and anything above that is a bonus, that's my perspective.

COYW

[Citizen Smith]

Very well put Suffolk White. Arsenal are desperate to win the league and blew us away in that first half spell, with Saka almost back to his best. Difficult for anyone to have withstood that, let alone a virus-hit Fulham with arguably five starters(Iwobi, Berge,Sess, Tete and Kevin) not in the starting lineup.

[ffc73]

I echo many of the glass half empty comments in that we have been average at best, and not that entertaining for most of the season and this year does have the 2012/13 Jol vibe which is concerning for next season. 

We have also been blown away in first half at Citeh, Liverpool and yesterday at Arsenal.  I cannot remember us not being competitive in the PL since the Parker days.  Games over at half time or before are not enjoyable.

Cannot say season is petering out because, although we are 10th, safe and secure for another year, it does not feel like 2025/26 really got started.  What was the highlight this season?  Difficult to recall anything more than bland on repeat. 

Always, hoping for better & fearing the worst.   

[Whitesideup]

I agree we need to keep some perspective but the game, especially the first half, left me deflated. Yes Arsenal are a good side but that much better? Yes, we made mistakes for the goals, but we weren't really in the game. We had a reasonable spell for 10-15 minutes in the 1st half (without creating much, if anything) ended (inevitably it felt) with Arsenal scoring their 2nd and then reasserting control.

All our remaining fixtures are tricky and we will need to find a way to be more in the game and somehow to create more of a threat in the final third. I sometimes wonder if we have the squad to do this. The perspective is we are in a good-ish position in the league, we have had some good performances this year, sometimes coming away with nothing eg Man U 2-3 defeat, Man City 4-5. But I get those who are concerned by performances like yesterday when we did look poor.

[Andrew]

Taking the season as a whole,it has been a great disapointment. The inabilty to kick on is, IMO, more a function of not having a good enough squad. I do not intend to have a go at individual players because they all try hard, usually, but central defence and central midfield requires an upgrade if we are to genuinely improve.

Regarding the manager, none of us know the situation but he has looked and sounded mighty demoralised. I suspect he is being held to his contract having not been offered a proper acceptable folow on. That is speculation but seems most likely to me.

Also for the first time since marco arrived, i think we have seemed to have more long term injuries to key plaers than before. I don't know if that's  bad luck or somthing wrong with training.

And in the end this mediocrity IMO says more about the owner's ambition than the manager's abilities. I don't think  we can realistically expecto do better. We dan vhange the nanager but the plan, or lack of plan, will not change if Marco goes.

Yesterday was symptomatic of a deeper issue. Changing the manager will not fix it.

[LittleErn]

Taking the season as a whole,it has been a great disapointment. The inabilty to kick on is, IMO, more a function of not having a good enough squad. I do not intend to have a go at individual players because they all try hard, usually, but central defence and central midfield requires an upgrade if we are to genuinely improve.

Regarding the manager, none of us know the situation but he has looked and sounded mighty demoralised. I suspect he is being held to his contract having not been offered a proper acceptable folow on. That is speculation but seems most likely to me.

Also for the first time since marco arrived, i think we have seemed to have more long term injuries to key plaers than before. I don't know if that's  bad luck or somthing wrong with training.

And in the end this mediocrity IMO says more about the owner's ambition than the manager's abilities. I don't think  we can realistically expecto do better. We dan vhange the nanager but the plan, or lack of plan, will not change if Marco goes.

Yesterday was symptomatic of a deeper issue. Changing the manager will not fix it.

Well put Andrew. All I would add is that we need a more prolific strike force as well as the positions you highlight.

[Rodge]

Perspective is fine but I don't think any of us really expected us to get anything from the game yesterday but the performance was really poor. There have been far too many weak performances this season; Everton (twice) Leeds away, Villa away, Liverpool away, West Ham (home) Palace (home) Brentford away, Southampton (home) before yesterday's gutless showing, so people are entitled to be concerned.

But can we honestly say that we have a strong squad, a solid defence, a combative midfield, a potent attack? I don't think I've lost all perspective to say that we need improvements in all these departments.

What is most concerning is that we don't know whether the current manager will be with us next season. We need to embark on an overhaul of the squad in the summer with a manager who will be around for the next few years. As a fan, that doesn't seem like too much to ask.

[bill taylors apprentice]

Perspective? Maybe the word should be Prospect!

Perspective for me relates to an outlook or view point while 'prospect' is about what happens in the future.


Of course the present points tally show we are in with a chance for a Euro campaign but that's more to do with the closeness of teams in the league than our ability to win games.

Even a blind man can see we have spent money on improving the team and yet the quality of performance has dropped.
We bought ESR and he has failed to be an upgrade, I'm sure Bobb & Kevin will improve but don't look like the big upgrade needed to me.

To do well in the PL (top 8 ish) you have to be exceptional for periods throughout the season, this team this year has been mediocre, ordinary, complacent, not exceptional.

Mediocrity leads to failure in the PL.

[AJW48361]

The Club is at a massive crossroad this pre season.A club of our standing in The Premier League your never miles away from a Relegation scrap and I feel a few decisions one way or another could really illustrate that fact. (1) Silva's future I worry about the Curbishley factor there is strong relationships with players and Silva. If he decides to leave you feel the fallout could be disastrous especially if the Appointment of a new manager doesn't prove successful. Massive few months.

[Londonfranky]

We are what we are a mid table premiership side, good on some days crap on others, losing to the potential champions is not a bad thing, the performance was shite, it's been like the last couple of seasons, performing reasonably well up until march, then performance seems to drop of a cliff, could of players that were really good last year Robinson and Muniz, have been struggling this year, I think we would have struggled this year if Harry Wilson and Jiminez hadn't had such a good season between them, i still think that this season squad when they all fit of course has been one of best squads we have had in the premiership,

[Colinwhite]

We are a good side but without Tete ,Berge ,Kevin , sessingnon, and Iwobi ( all potential starters ) we were always going to struggle.

[St Eve]

If Silva hasn't signed a new contract a day after the final home game then he should be sacked and then a new manager, whoever's lined up, has maximum tie to look at the club whilst the players are literally on the beach, and start to shape their plans accordingly..

Knowing Khan, we won't have one in place until 30th August!

You can't really sack someone who is out of contract

[RAY Rock]

People blaming the result on a virus and injuries weak excuse the players have no pride in their performance what they served up yesterday was embarrassing jogging around no passion no desire not willing to get back in and help teammates played like a bunch of 6 year old starting their football careers.  Jedi , chuck , lukic, Wilson , Reed,  Anderson , bassey , Smith Rowe,  Leno need to look in the mirror this morning and have a honest conversation

[alfie]

People blaming the result on a virus and injuries weak excuse the players have no pride in their performance what they served up yesterday was embarrassing jogging around no passion no desire not willing to get back in and help teammates played like a bunch of 6 year old starting their football careers.  Jedi , chuck , lukic, Wilson , Reed,  Anderson , bassey , Smith Rowe,  Leno need to look in the mirror this morning and have a honest conversation

How do you feel when you have a virus, I bet you don't want to run around very much, of course that's assuming they are suffering with a virus problem.

[Coastwalker]

Have a sense of perspective.

I could not agree more with every part of your opening post, but this is the part where it all falls over.

Perspective? This lot? Sorry mate, but you've got no chance there.

The problem with some of you is that you accept it all the time.
Yippee we're finishing mid table.
When we play the likes of City and so,the pre match remarks let's keep the score down,let's not get thrashed.
Losing mentality all the time and accepting it.
The OP stating how good we we're against Villa,really they missed about 6 chances.
I'm quite surprised we're not in a relegation battle the way we've played last few months.
The laying down to a championship team in the cup.
If some of these players are around next season,we'll be favourites for relegation.
They the Arsenal took players off at half time,if they'd stayed on they might have got 6 or 7 the way they we're running through us.
Disgraceful performance from us.

[blingo]

10th in the best league in the world. Owners who are investing to improve the club in every way. What are you realistically expecting?
If MS and wilson go, they go. Fulham will continue as it always has, some seasons better than others, thats football for a club like ours. If you dont like it or have much much higher expectations then perhaps you should be supporting a top top side, because in my eyes, FFC is not for you. The constant whingeing about players gets extremely tedious imho. I wonder if the whingers are as perfect in their professional lives as they expect our players to be? And i dont accept the crap that i pay to watch them. You always have the option not to. Surviving in this division is not easy, there are ten teams below us that can testify to that. Try supporting the team instead of constantly slagging them off, because im sure that none of you criticizing are anything less than perfect in life. In fact the only perfect person i ever met was a liar.

[Somerset Fulham]

Have a sense of perspective.

I could not agree more with every part of your opening post, but this is the part where it all falls over.

Perspective? This lot? Sorry mate, but you've got no chance there.

The problem with some of you is that you accept it all the time. No I don't but I can accept a midtable side will play well one week and poorly the next.
Yippee we're finishing mid table. like it or not 15th to 8th (midtable), is just about our ceiling.
When we play the likes of City and so,the pre match remarks let's keep the score down,let's not get thrashed.
Losing mentality all the time and accepting it.  It isn't losing mentality at all, predicting an outcome doesn't actually have an affect on how the game will go.  But as we would expect to beat Burnley, we would expect to lose to City.  The reason being (in case you aren't aware) is that we are better than Burnley, we are much worse than City.
The OP stating how good we we're against Villa,really they missed about 6 chances.  It is football missed chances happen and it is how lesser sides beat better ones. 
I'm quite surprised we're not in a relegation battle the way we've played last few months.  Be as surprised as you like, subjectivity is a large part of football but the fact is that we are absolutely nowhere near one.
The laying down to a championship team in the cup.  It was poor, nobody denies that - also see point above regarding better sides having off days.
If some of these players are around next season,we'll be favourites for relegation.  No we won't.
They the Arsenal took players off at half time,if they'd stayed on they might have got 6 or 7 the way they we're running through us. Yes, yes they were, the best side in the country, and one of the best four in Europe gave us a shoeing and we absolutely did not help ourselves in the first half. 
Disgraceful performance from us. Wasn't the best in the first half, granted.  Disgraceful though?  Nah.

[Coastwalker]

10th in the best league in the world. Owners who are investing to improve the club in every way. What are you realistically expecting?
If MS and wilson go, they go. Fulham will continue as it always has, some seasons better than others, thats football for a club like ours. If you dont like it or have much much higher expectations then perhaps you should be supporting a top top side, because in my eyes, FFC is not for you. The constant whingeing about players gets extremely tedious imho. I wonder if the whingers are as perfect in their professional lives as they expect our players to be? And i dont accept the crap that i pay to watch them. You always have the option not to. Surviving in this division is not easy, there are ten teams below us that can testify to that. Try supporting the team instead of constantly slagging them off, because im sure that none of you criticizing are anything less than perfect in life. In fact the only perfect person i ever met was a liar.

"I wonder you say if the whingers are as perfect in their lives" lol
They're not getting paid £80,000  week to be.
I've supported Fulham longer than you I should think,through all the bad times,and if I want to Moan about a disgraceful performance I will do.
Who are you to tell people to support another team.

[Coastwalker]

Have a sense of perspective.

I could not agree more with every part of your opening post, but this is the part where it all falls over.

Perspective? This lot? Sorry mate, but you've got no chance there.

The problem with some of you is that you accept it all the time. No I don't but I can accept a midtable side will play well one week and poorly the next.
Yippee we're finishing mid table. like it or not 15th to 8th (midtable), is just about our ceiling.
When we play the likes of City and so,the pre match remarks let's keep the score down,let's not get thrashed.
Losing mentality all the time and accepting it.  It isn't losing mentality at all, predicting an outcome doesn't actually have an affect on how the game will go.  But as we would expect to beat Burnley, we would expect to lose to City.  The reason being (in case you aren't aware) is that we are better than Burnley, we are much worse than City.
The OP stating how good we we're against Villa,really they missed about 6 chances.  It is football missed chances happen and it is how lesser sides beat better ones. 
I'm quite surprised we're not in a relegation battle the way we've played last few months.  Be as surprised as you like, subjectivity is a large part of football but the fact is that we are absolutely nowhere near one.
The laying down to a championship team in the cup.  It was poor, nobody denies that - also see point above regarding better sides having off days.
If some of these players are around next season,we'll be favourites for relegation.  No we won't.
They the Arsenal took players off at half time,if they'd stayed on they might have got 6 or 7 the way they we're running through us. Yes, yes they were, the best side in the country, and one of the best four in Europe gave us a shoeing and we absolutely did not help ourselves in the first half. 
Disgraceful performance from us. Wasn't the best in the first half, granted.  Disgraceful though?  Nah.

And your remarks have just proved my point.
Go read comments on the BBC people posting they've never seen a worse performance.
And it was Disgraceful.

[Somerset Fulham]

It proves nothing. Absolutely nothing.

But as usual, I am going to withdraw from here for a while - its just not worth engaging on here after a loss.  I never seem to learn.