Andersen

[Whitestone]

Oh, I think it did. It was 11 v 10 with a few seconds of the first half left when he made that ridiculous tackle.  11 v 10 would have made us strong favourites to go on and win the game, particularly as we were playing quite well.

[Jules]

We won't get back what we paid for him, but lets take the hit. We need to upgrade with a proper reliable defender with some pace and quality on the ball alongside Bassey.

[flyingfish]

A disgrace. Utterly moronic. Completely unnecessary. He cost us the game plain and simple. And I recall he was at fault when we collapsed against palace last season. For every diagonal ball that comes off, five go strait to the opp so even his so called distribution is suspect.

[First State]

Andersen aside, this team was never going to qualify for European football - zero leadership, mediocre skill, and no heart.

[Super Mick]

Trying not to overreact, but he pretty much cost us today. Would happily see him not play for us again.

They had a player sent off, didn't cost them the game.

11 V 10 they would have done!

[Plodder]

Well, I am going against the majority on this thread, but I think Andersen and Bassey are a good central defensive partnership by Premier League standards, and I completely disagree with the assertion that Andersen has been "appalling" since he returned. Defence is the area of the team I am least worried about. I am much more concerned about our attack and midfield, and that should be the focus of our recruitment team.

[Milo]

This isn't about jumping on the bandwagon but a genuine reflection on Anderson.

I've been saying for months he switches off at the end of games. I can recall last minute penalty giveaways, poor positioning to allow Sesko to score last minute in the Man U game.. another game when he completely missed a simple cross clearance last minute leading to a goal. His concentration at the end of the game is so poor.

Today that seemed to translate into the end of the first half.

I get the impression he's a sensible captain with a reasonable range of passing (but hardly consistent). However his defending is average at best, he is slow and often gets caught by the ball in behind, and he time and time again switches off in the last few minutes of games leading to 8 points lost this season that I can think off the top of my head alone.

I believe, as I continuously and boringly say, that Diop is the better defender.

This isn't a "knee jerk" emotional reaction but a considered reflection over many months and today added fuel to the fire.

[demeant0r]

Andersen posted on his IG and apologised and said he takes full responsibility but then banned comments on this post. What a coward. It's the only post that doesn't allow comments too.

[Porthogs FC]

Andersen posted on his IG and apologised and said he takes full responsibility but then banned comments on this post. What a coward. It's the only post that doesn't allow comments too.

Uh, I would have done the same. Allowing thousands to post and expecting him to just "take it" is a ridiculous take. He made a mistake, he probably feels very sorry for it already, comments won't help. We move on.

[demeant0r]

Andersen posted on his IG and apologised and said he takes full responsibility but then banned comments on this post. What a coward. It's the only post that doesn't allow comments too.

Uh, I would have done the same. Allowing thousands to post and expecting him to just "take it" is a ridiculous take. He made a mistake, he probably feels very sorry for it already, comments won't help. We move on.

Yeah that's fair enough, but he better learn from this and not go in two footed again next season, an absolute brainfart. I'd rather he go though, he's just been very mediocre since returning.

[Porthogs FC]

Andersen posted on his IG and apologised and said he takes full responsibility but then banned comments on this post. What a coward. It's the only post that doesn't allow comments too.

Uh, I would have done the same. Allowing thousands to post and expecting him to just "take it" is a ridiculous take. He made a mistake, he probably feels very sorry for it already, comments won't help. We move on.

Yeah that's fair enough, but he better learn from this and not go in two footed again next season, an absolute brainfart. I'd rather he go though, he's just been very mediocre since returning.

Our Defense has been one reasonably good thing (other than our consistency at mid table). I also think a sale could be a good idea, as we generally are slow to pass and move. Diop doesn't move forward much, so would need someone with reasonable passing and movement

[Super Mick]

He has lost any pace he might have had. Maybe his boots are being weighed down by his salary.

[WolverineFFC]

hes kind of the poster child for the issues with this squad. A good professional that has a good amount of talent and is just happy to be playing in the Premier league in a low pressure setting.

That could describe about 15 guys right now.

Nail meet head. Nothing is more representative of where the club now sit than him. Puts the odd top performance in but is otherwise a completely mid table Premier League player.

[Arthur]

A disgrace. Utterly moronic. Completely unnecessary. He cost us the game plain and simple. And I recall he was at fault when we collapsed against palace last season. For every diagonal ball that comes off, five go strait to the opp so even his so called distribution is suspect.

I think it's more accurate to say Andersen cost us a golden opportunity to win the game. Both teams had the same number of players for the second half. We had no less chance of winning then than we did at the start of the game.

Moreover, Andersen's long pass completion percentage this season is 46%. If your imaginary figure of 1-in-6 were correct, it would be only 17%. A considerable difference. By way of comparison: Van Dyk's is 47%; Gabriel's 45%; Dias' 50%. Nothing shabby about Andersen's rate. He has also hit more successful long passes (166) than any outfield player bar Senesi (whose completion percentage is 38%).

https://www.premierleague.com/en/players/174874/joachim-andersen/stats

[iansthailand]

Whilst certainly not defending the indefensible we certainly noticed the difference when Diop replaced Andersen.
Yes, Andersen's long range passes are not always on the money but, and i like Diop, the second half meant we were slow getting out of defence with Issa stopping and passing sideways every time.
I thought Bobb and Kevin added a bit of spark but the final ball was, as usual missing. The less said about Jedi's crossing but i thought he had a much better game defensively.
Overall i am not too disappointed missing out on Europe as i don't think we are strong enough to cope with two competitions and would possibly put our PL in jeopardy.

PS: Hope Mr. Peabody had a better time than we did.

[Arthur]

hes kind of the poster child for the issues with this squad. A good professional that has a good amount of talent and is just happy to be playing in the Premier league in a low pressure setting.

That could describe about 15 guys right now.

Nail meet head. Nothing is more representative of where the club now sit than him. Puts the odd top performance in but is otherwise a completely mid table Premier League player.

'Nail meets head'? Is not a mid-table Club found to have a number of mid-table-quality players to be expected? In footballing terms, what could be more obvious? To go back to the post you quote, rather than it being an 'issue', surely it's a foundation, a platform. I wouldn't describe playing P.L. football - for any club - as 'low pressure'.

[General]

Well, I am going against the majority on this thread, but I think Andersen and Bassey are a good central defensive partnership by Premier League standards, and I completely disagree with the assertion that Andersen has been "appalling" since he returned. Defence is the area of the team I am least worried about. I am much more concerned about our attack and midfield, and that should be the focus of our recruitment team.

With you there.

In 93 games so far for us Andersen has 3 red cards, one a season on average.

https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/joachim-andersen/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/260827/saison/ges/verein/931/wettbewerb/GB1

Yes, he made a significant mistake yesterday and it possibly cost us the game and what could be European football, but did we deserve European football? Truly?

We've been average as a team for a while..

Multiple things have let us down this season, from transfer business not being done (Pepi), to lack of concentration or focus from having key players and the manager contracts sorted, to injuries to key players like Kevin and Muniz..

We do seem to be stuck in the case of being the nearly men, but to start blaming one player on a whole season is just out and irrational

[Whitesideup]

Well, I am going against the majority on this thread, but I think Andersen and Bassey are a good central defensive partnership by Premier League standards, and I completely disagree with the assertion that Andersen has been "appalling" since he returned. Defence is the area of the team I am least worried about. I am much more concerned about our attack and midfield, and that should be the focus of our recruitment team.

Thank you Plodder. I agree. Our focus should be our offensive abilities. Is it now zero goals in 7 of our last 9 matches, scoring 3 against Burnley and 1 against Villa ??

[Kimbleman]

The reason we lost yesterday is really very simple....in having to replace ESR with Diop we lost the midfield. First half ESR was breaking up all their moves through the middle. When he went off that changed rather dramatically with BHA able to move the ball better.
Their goal had an extremely fortunate deflection (I think Leno had it covered otherwise).
So we all know Anderson was a complete idiot and had his part in losing the game but he was far from the only reason.
Also, BHA were very dirty, the number of times they took out our players (and that goes for many other teams we have played this season).
I mentioned to one or two of the regulars around us that we just play too much side to side with not enough progressive passes (as we have done all bloody season)
Let's not forget we were also missing Berg, Iwobi, Tete, Jiminez and Sess (okay two were on the bench but unused so probably not 100% match fit).
Munez still looks like half the man he was prior to surgery.
Finally as the previous poster said, our lack of goals is why we are not winning (simple) not our defence.
Bummer but beat Wolves next week and Newcastle after that (quite likely with the absentees back fit and Kevin back in contention) we could once again finish on a respectable 54 points and once again, for the most part not had to worry about relegation.

[KentFulham]

I would suggest that relegation will be something to worry about if we continue with this team. We must have a clear out and we must start to get comfortable selling players at the peak to fund the next great players.

We have a bunch of players right now that will be a bit of a write off