Thoughts on today

[Ludlow Richard]

Late thoughts, apologies, but just emerged from a power cut at our place.

I just want to focus on the second half when both teams were down to 10.  AFCB seemed to have a structure to their play which was unaffected by their subs. The players clearly knew their job and their subs made no difference to their play. On the attack they were direct and positive, and all round I felt they looked fitter than us.

As for us, I'm not sure I saw a structure about our game in the second half. We were less direct than AFCB (sideways rather than forwards) and it felt like we were hoping something would happen rather than actively influencing the game. With our subs I felt we lost any cohesion.

I came away from the game thinking that AFCB players were fitter, more capable of sticking to a structure and, dare I say it, better coached. While we could have scraped a draw at the death, we wouldn't have deserved it.

A very disappointing day.

[Jim©]

I think there's a lot of praise for Bournemouth when I'm not sure a deflected (I think, only saw it live) goal that beat us, merits their praise. We hit the cross bar twice, bobb should've done better as should have muniz with that header.
We matched a team that last lost in January (to arsenal) and that was with 3 or 4 starters injured or ill. We genuinely weren't that poor.

I'm most annoyed with andersen and the ref. How he didn't give a straight red for both challenges is crazy, as was his willingness to book Fulham players but let Bournemouth ones get away with too much. Then to add just five minutes when a load more should've been added on.

[SuperFreeman]

Bournemouth were the better side. End of. Nothing to do with fitness of Fulham players. Both sending off's were merited- Silva moaning and winging as usual. The ref got it wrong. That's why VAR is there to ensure the right decisions are made. Fulham can't hit a barn door with a banjo. Bournemouth have (until he goes) a far better coach in Andoni Iraola. His players are better and technically they were better than the home side. It's like Fulham have given up on any aspirations for a European spot and that's not helped by the head in the sand Board refusing to tell the fans what's happening with Silva. The uncertainty and speculation have led to Fulham's dramatic loss of form.
With their European hopes all but over, Silva's side have now failed to score in six of their last eight league games and their problems in attack were clear to see, not aided by substitute striker Raul Jimenez pulling out of the warm-up. Smith-Rowe is ineffectual. the goalkeeper Leno is way over-rated and Fulham never properly replaced Mitro. Bobb and Muniz are just a waste of space. King had to score near the end. But nerves and lack of confidence got the better of him. Moments like that define Fulham's season. Wasted opportunities to do much better.
It's time for a change of manager and a re-set with new players.

[JimmyConway]

I thought there team ethic in the second half was the difference. First half I thought we were the better team.
I read on here yesterday there a team where we rely more on one or two individuals and I kind of agree with that.

[Whitesideup]

First half we were the better team. But for all the good that we did, we created few chances and when we did have a free header 7 yards out, we missed the target. And you don't win many games scoring zero. Second half Bournemouth created the better chances.Even then, though King was unlucky, the idea is to hit the space between the white sticks.

But I also agree with the comment that we got yellows when for equivalent challenges, Bournemouth didn't. And indeed when Scott committed a yellow card tackle (which would have been his second yellow) the ref chose not to even give a foul (funny that...how to avoid a tricky decision) and book Lukic who was pointing out the error of his ways.

[Kimbleman]

First half we were the better team. But for all the good that we did, we created few chances and when we did have a free header 7 yards out, we missed the target. And you don't win many games scoring zero. Second half Bournemouth created the better chances.Even then, though King was unlucky, the idea is to hit the space between the white sticks.

But I also agree with the comment that we got yellows when for equivalent challenges, Bournemouth didn't. And indeed when Scott committed a yellow card tackle (which would have been his second yellow) the ref chose not to even give a foul (funny that...how to avoid a tricky decision) and book Lukic who was pointing out the error of his ways.

Totally agree with the ref bottling that second yellow to Scott and that he seemed to let Bournemouth get away with a lot.

[Bill2]

First half we were the better team. But for all the good that we did, we created few chances and when we did have a free header 7 yards out, we missed the target. And you don't win many games scoring zero. Second half Bournemouth created the better chances.Even then, though King was unlucky, the idea is to hit the space between the white sticks.

But I also agree with the comment that we got yellows when for equivalent challenges, Bournemouth didn't. And indeed when Scott committed a yellow card tackle (which would have been his second yellow) the ref chose not to even give a foul (funny that...how to avoid a tricky decision) and book Lukic who was pointing out the error of his ways.

Have to agree with the comment on the ref and his bookings. The Muniz one was for a pull back just outside their penalty area, a foul yea but booking harsh. Not sure if he had committed any other fouls prior. Yet Bournemouth committed virtually identical fouls in the middle of the park and while he gave them there were no yellow cards. Completely agree with Scott incident and thought the same at the time.

[Bill2]

Late thoughts, apologies, but just emerged from a power cut at our place.

I just want to focus on the second half when both teams were down to 10.  AFCB seemed to have a structure to their play which was unaffected by their subs. The players clearly knew their job and their subs made no difference to their play. On the attack they were direct and positive, and all round I felt they looked fitter than us.

As for us, I'm not sure I saw a structure about our game in the second half. We were less direct than AFCB (sideways rather than forwards) and it felt like we were hoping something would happen rather than actively influencing the game. With our subs I felt we lost any cohesion.

I came away from the game thinking that AFCB players were fitter, more capable of sticking to a structure and, dare I say it, better coached. While we could have scraped a draw at the death, we wouldn't have deserved it.

A very disappointing day.

Have to disagree, thought we were the better side and looking at the stats it indicates we were. They had two good chances in the second half but we were chasing the game so no surprise there.

[Bill2]

Bournemouth were the better side. End of. Nothing to do with fitness of Fulham players. Both sending off's were merited- Silva moaning and winging as usual. The ref got it wrong. That's why VAR is there to ensure the right decisions are made. Fulham can't hit a barn door with a banjo. Bournemouth have (until he goes) a far better coach in Andoni Iraola. His players are better and technically they were better than the home side. It's like Fulham have given up on any aspirations for a European spot and that's not helped by the head in the sand Board refusing to tell the fans what's happening with Silva. The uncertainty and speculation have led to Fulham's dramatic loss of form.
With their European hopes all but over, Silva's side have now failed to score in six of their last eight league games and their problems in attack were clear to see, not aided by substitute striker Raul Jimenez pulling out of the warm-up. Smith-Rowe is ineffectual. the goalkeeper Leno is way over-rated and Fulham never properly replaced Mitro. Bobb and Muniz are just a waste of space. King had to score near the end. But nerves and lack of confidence got the better of him. Moments like that define Fulham's season. Wasted opportunities to do much better.
It's time for a change of manager and a re-set with new players.

I have commented numerous times about our inability to score. Suggest those who buy a programme look at the table showing appearances and goals. Too many with a total of 0, if it wasn't for Harry and Raul we would be heading down to the Championship. The total from our defensive back line is 5 and 3 of those was from Ryan. Midfield only slightly better.

[KentFulham]

The Muniz header summed him up really

[bill taylors apprentice]

We have individuals who are capable of competing at this level but their inability to score and win games is creating big problems.

Why?

Because the tactics are not producing fast, dynamic, attacking football.

Keeping the ball is good but not when you over do it at the expense pressuring the opposition.

[Southcoastffc]

We have individuals who are capable of competing at this level but their inability to score and win games is creating big problems.

Why?

Because the tactics are not producing fast, dynamic, attacking football.

Keeping the ball is good but not when you over do it at the expense pressuring the opposition.

Exactly. And that's why, despite his sometimes excellent play and passing ability,  I am not in the 'Love TC' camp.  If we are leading with 20 mins to go he's a good player to have but, when we're losing pointless 5 or 20 yard to you to me passes are useless.   We had good spells yesterday but, their time wasting and niggly fouls aside, Bournemouth's attitude was better than ours. They were more energetic,  incisive and they always - even late in the game - looked to get forward.   I'm pretty confident that had we been 1 up we'd have sat back and hoofed the ball away.  Roll on next season with a few key changes of personnel please.

[Jim©]

I am not sure what game a few on here were watching. Bournemouth had two decent chances in the whole game. They sat deep and didn't do much for much of the game.
I've seen goal now, not deflection just very poor goalkeeping (again) imo.

[OZ-WHITE]

A lot of problems this year - Robinson isn't the same player he was before being injured, last year raw pace and getting crosses in we scored from.
Midfield has been a problem all season, just haven't been able to hold the ball and link play. ESR just hasn't quite clicked yet and King has talent but still small framed, some big decisions in the transfer window.
Strikers haven't really had quality service, Jimenez has battled on but he's 35 now and Muniz is out of form, again some big decisions in the transfer window.
The Left Back and Right Back positions have to be assessed, Tete has had injury problems and the same with Robinson, once again some big decisions in the transfer window.

[alfie]

A lot of problems this year - Robinson isn't the same player he was before being injured, last year raw pace and getting crosses in we scored from.
Midfield has been a problem all season, just haven't been able to hold the ball and link play. ESR just hasn't quite clicked yet and King has talent but still small framed, some big decisions in the transfer window.
Strikers haven't really had quality service, Jimenez has battled on but he's 35 now and Muniz is out of form, again some big decisions in the transfer window.
The Left Back and Right Back positions have to be assessed, Tete has had injury problems and the same with Robinson, once again some big decisions in the transfer window.

ESR hasn't clicked because he is being asked to do a job that is just not him.

[SG]

We have individuals who are capable of competing at this level but their inability to score and win games is creating big problems.

Why?

Because the tactics are not producing fast, dynamic, attacking football.

Keeping the ball is good but not when you over do it at the expense pressuring the opposition.

Exactly. And that's why, despite his sometimes excellent play and passing ability,  I am not in the 'Love TC' camp.  If we are leading with 20 mins to go he's a good player to have but, when we're losing pointless 5 or 20 yard to you to me passes are useless.   We had good spells yesterday but, their time wasting and niggly fouls aside, Bournemouth's attitude was better than ours. They were more energetic,  incisive and they always - even late in the game - looked to get forward.   I'm pretty confident that had we been 1 up we'd have sat back and hoofed the ball away.  Roll on next season with a few key changes of personnel please.

Agreed TC slows the game far too much. We lose momentum and impetus when we need to be breaking at pace. By the time he looks up the opposition is back behind the ball.

[SG]

A lot of problems this year - Robinson isn't the same player he was before being injured, last year raw pace and getting crosses in we scored from.
Midfield has been a problem all season, just haven't been able to hold the ball and link play. ESR just hasn't quite clicked yet and King has talent but still small framed, some big decisions in the transfer window.
Strikers haven't really had quality service, Jimenez has battled on but he's 35 now and Muniz is out of form, again some big decisions in the transfer window.
The Left Back and Right Back positions have to be assessed, Tete has had injury problems and the same with Robinson, once again some big decisions in the transfer window.

ESR hasn't clicked because he is being asked to do a job that is just not him.

ESR was playing well yesterday and gets taken off. Wilson who did eff all again for the nth game running stays on

[alfie]

A lot of problems this year - Robinson isn't the same player he was before being injured, last year raw pace and getting crosses in we scored from.
Midfield has been a problem all season, just haven't been able to hold the ball and link play. ESR just hasn't quite clicked yet and King has talent but still small framed, some big decisions in the transfer window.
Strikers haven't really had quality service, Jimenez has battled on but he's 35 now and Muniz is out of form, again some big decisions in the transfer window.
The Left Back and Right Back positions have to be assessed, Tete has had injury problems and the same with Robinson, once again some big decisions in the transfer window.

ESR hasn't clicked because he is being asked to do a job that is just not him.

ESR was playing well yesterday and gets taken off. Wilson who did eff all again for the nth game running stays on

Makes you wonder why ?

[Southcoastffc]

A lot of problems this year - Robinson isn't the same player he was before being injured, last year raw pace and getting crosses in we scored from.
Midfield has been a problem all season, just haven't been able to hold the ball and link play. ESR just hasn't quite clicked yet and King has talent but still small framed, some big decisions in the transfer window.
Strikers haven't really had quality service, Jimenez has battled on but he's 35 now and Muniz is out of form, again some big decisions in the transfer window.
The Left Back and Right Back positions have to be assessed, Tete has had injury problems and the same with Robinson, once again some big decisions in the transfer window.

ESR hasn't clicked because he is being asked to do a job that is just not him.

ESR was playing well yesterday and gets taken off. Wilson who did eff all again for the nth game running stays on

Makes you wonder why ?

tbf ESR had taken a lot of knocks yesterday.  It was good to see him getting stuck in more than previously.