Utter dross and garbage.

[Rambler]

Anyone for Eddie Howe?

Absolutely. If we can. But we've gotta give Arbeloa a chance. Problem is whoever comes in next is stuck with Arbeloa's players whom they may not value (Palacios, Angel (if he comes))

[SimonDaviesEnjoyer]

Anyone for Eddie Howe?

Absolutely. If we can. But we've gotta give Arbeloa a chance. Problem is whoever comes in next is stuck with Arbeloa's players whom they may not value (Palacios, Angel (if he comes))

Hahaha behave yourselves.

[FFC007]

Leno can't be trusted on the floor with his passing...

His biggest asset is his shot stopping, the rest of it is a complete lottery.

He needs to go.

[FFC007]

Anyone for Eddie Howe?

Absolutely. If we can. But we've gotta give Arbeloa a chance. Problem is whoever comes in next is stuck with Arbeloa's players whom they may not value (Palacios, Angel (if he comes))

Madrid will be rubbing their hands together if we go down..

They'll rake it in from sell on clauses!

[andyk]

1 awful performance out of 3, albeit includes a lower div side. 10 games is the mark, before we panic.

[WolverineFFC]

A list of issues:

1. Palacios - On the wind, dreadful only pulled off after 70'

2. Taking Castagne off, he'd kept that side quiet.

3. Playing a high-line but not pressing well at all.

4. Andersen being asked to play a high line.

5. Garcia has apparently 0 physicality to win any long ball.

6. Arbeloa lacks adaptability, you could see when we pushed forward we couldn't break them down, throw Muniz on try get the crosses going then.

7. Lightweight, we cannot win 2nd balls because Bobb, King, Palacios cannot push people off it a high press needs physicality to dispossess and spring attacks.

8. If you've let a team hit the post because your fullbacks are in their half maybe drop back a bit.

Overall, excited for the championship next season.

On #2,3, and 4, taking off Castagne affected all of those. Up until then I was pleasantly satisfied with the back 4 defensively. We all know Andersen is not going to win foot races with Strikers from the halfway line. They had suitably dealt with that issue as a unit up until then.

I am starting to get Luciano Vietto vibes with Palacios. Don't want to write off a young player too quickly, but someone needs to explain to me how he is better than ESR in that left sided role. It would seem to be ideally suited to Rowe's skills.

[Coastwalker]

A list of issues:

1. Palacios - On the wind, dreadful only pulled off after 70'

2. Taking Castagne off, he'd kept that side quiet.

3. Playing a high-line but not pressing well at all.

4. Andersen being asked to play a high line.

5. Garcia has apparently 0 physicality to win any long ball.

6. Arbeloa lacks adaptability, you could see when we pushed forward we couldn't break them down, throw Muniz on try get the crosses going then.

7. Lightweight, we cannot win 2nd balls because Bobb, King, Palacios cannot push people off it a high press needs physicality to dispossess and spring attacks.

8. If you've let a team hit the post because your fullbacks are in their half maybe drop back a bit.

Overall, excited for the championship next season.

On #2,3, and 4, taking off Castagne affected all of those. Up until then I was pleasantly satisfied with the back 4 defensively. We all know Andersen is not going to win foot races with Strikers from the halfway line. They had suitably dealt with that issue as a unit up until then.

I am starting to get Luciano Vietto vibes with Palacios. Don't want to write off a young player too quickly, but someone needs to explain to me how he is better than ESR in that lefaciost sided role. It would seem to be ideally suited to Rowe's skills.

He has to pick Palacios,as he been telling everyone that this Real Madrid boy is the greatest.😅😅😅

[Chi_FFC]

His biggest asset is his shot stopping

If that's his biggest asset we're in BIG trouble. He's been one of the worst shot stoppers in the PL the past few seasons.

[flyingfish]

Blimey. Was there any encouragement at all to be had from that?

Are we all over reacting a little bit? Until they scored we had the García chance and they hit the post for the best chances of the game.

They are VERY good at home.

However my questions:

Why play palacios, he has barely any experience at this level and it showed. ESR to start

Why play so wide and far forward, it's obvious we're going to give up many identical goals this season

Why not just stick Lecomte in goal. It can't be worse than Leno? Now obviously I'm not a professional goalkeeper but can anyone enlighten me why he went with his feet and not his hands?

Sess on the right - he did ok didn't he? We were getting in a few good positions then.

[KentFulham]

Got to agree woth Chris Sutton, current team is relegated

[FFC007]

Silva in!

[Grassy Noel]

A list of issues:

1. Palacios - On the wind, dreadful only pulled off after 70'

2. Taking Castagne off, he'd kept that side quiet.

3. Playing a high-line but not pressing well at all.

4. Andersen being asked to play a high line.

5. Garcia has apparently 0 physicality to win any long ball.

6. Arbeloa lacks adaptability, you could see when we pushed forward we couldn't break them down, throw Muniz on try get the crosses going then.

7. Lightweight, we cannot win 2nd balls because Bobb, King, Palacios cannot push people off it a high press needs physicality to dispossess and spring attacks.

8. If you've let a team hit the post because your fullbacks are in their half maybe drop back a bit.

Overall, excited for the championship next season.

Yeah and we will still beat Spurs

[Andrew]

Enter Mick........... (Insert Tony Khan slander here)

You can add me to that. I don't know if it is TK to blame any more or just a total third rate management structure that likes to play Russian roulette.
It is clear we have a worse squad than last season, a manager that is a novice and hell bent on playing a style rather than being pragmatic and playing a system that suits the staff.

 We are now hoping against hope that the management will be bringing in players before the end of tomorrow.... heaven know what dross they have lined up.

I suspect we will end up with another multi manager season and then languish for a few years in a division other than the Prem. I may be wrong but so far it is playing out much as I anticipated and can't see a reason that my worst fears will not be realised.

[FFC007]

I'd be tempted to put Shea Charles in the middle of the back three....

[AustrianGeezer]

 @flyingfish i also dont understand why AA keeps playing palacios on the wing. IMO he is too slow to be a winger, to me he would be better suited in cm indtead of iwobi, but ultimately i would like to see charles there.
As to the point that we're playing too wide, i also agree. Need to play a back three or one of our cm needs to drop behind to create a back three

[Andrew]

1 awful performance out of 3, albeit includes a lower div side. 10 games is the mark, before we panic.

I think it is a good time to start panicking.
Both performances in the prem have disaster written all over them.
A manager that refuses to adapt and play a style that suits is a recipe for disaster.
The manager is a novice, he is a mega gamble. I hope i am proved wrong but by the time we get to Novermber 1st I suspect we will be in big trouble.

[Trusty Steed]

My concern is these 'Real Madrid' youth players, he is showing loyalty, which could be detrimental to the team. He will play them. Even if they aren't ready.
The 'Àngel' player we are supposedly getting, great technically, very small, and his price is half that of Palacios. So we may have another weak link

[AustrianGeezer]

1 awful performance out of 3, albeit includes a lower div side. 10 games is the mark, before we panic.

I think it is a good time to start panicking.
Both performances in the prem have disaster written all over them.
A manager that refuses to adapt and play a style that suits is a recipe for disaster.
The manager is a novice, he is a mega gamble. I hope i am proved wrong but by the time we get to Novermber 1st I suspect we will be in big trouble.

Panicking is never good, but arbeloa does have to react accordingly and drop palacios and tweak the defense. Also wouldnt say both games were a disaster as we were offensively very good against a top 6 side

[Trusty Steed]

Where's Nick Bateman when you need him....

[FFC007]

Is Dyche available?