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Is Arbeloa the right man to lead us in the Championship next season?

Started by Andrew, August 30, 2026, 04:37:52 PM

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Andrew

Personally I think not. You have to be pragmatic and play a style that suits the players you have.

What you can't do is force a system on players and hope it will work whether they are suited to it or not. We do not have sufficient quality or midfield, capable of playing this way.

We need a proper centre forward with physical presence on the pitch OR we need midfielders and defenders capable of passing the ball quickly and accurately to give Garcia a chance to use his talent. As it is garcia is totally wasted playing a role he is clearly unsuited to. He needs to play alongside or just a more physical player.

No shots at Sunderland was down to the manager's inability to change tactics. The season will be an abject disaster unless he works out quickly that we are plying the wrong system. Sunderland weren't that good but they made us look very poor.

PS and the free kicks and corners are way worse than before

FFC007

Quote from: Andrew on August 30, 2026, 04:37:52 PMPersonally I think not. You have to be pragmatic and play a style that suits the players you have.

What you can't do is force a system on players and hope it will work whether they are suited to it or not. We do not have sufficient quality or midfield, capable of playing this way.

We need a proper centre forward with physical presence on the pitch OR we need midfielders and defenders capable of passing the ball quickly and accurately to give Garcia a chance to use his talent. As it is garcia is totally wasted playing a role he is clearly unsuited to. He needs to play alongside or just a more physical player.

No shots at Sunderland was down to the manager's inability to change tactics. The season will be an abject disaster unless he works out quickly that we are plying the wrong system. Sunderland weren't that good but they made us look very poor.

PS and the free kicks and corners are way worse than before

Tammy Abraham available for loan...

Jim©

Sorry, pretty sure you're just out fishing for a few bites.  :welcome1:


Andrew

Quote from: Jim© on August 30, 2026, 04:41:16 PMSorry, pretty sure you're just out fishing for a few bites.  :welcome1:

why are you sorry? I was, well done. However I have noticed similar comments on other threads dressed up differently but wow, this is spectacularly unimpressive from a novice manager.

Fulham 1879

This is a massive overreaction. We're two games into the season with a new manager, who's inherited a squad from Silva with little resale value and having lost our two main goalscorers. Sunderland were not much better than us today. Upgrade Berge and Andersen and we should be okay.

SimonDaviesEnjoyer

Quote from: Fulham 1879 on August 30, 2026, 05:02:21 PMThis is a massive overreaction. We're two games into the season with a new manager, who's inherited a squad from Silva with little resale value and having lost our two main goalscorers. Sunderland were not much better than us today. Upgrade Berge and Andersen and we should be okay.

I do agree this is a massive overreaction, but I do think Sunderland were much better than us today. We didn't lay a glove on them in truth.


JimmyConway

Quote from: SimonDaviesEnjoyer on August 30, 2026, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Fulham 1879 on August 30, 2026, 05:02:21 PMThis is a massive overreaction. We're two games into the season with a new manager, who's inherited a squad from Silva with little resale value and having lost our two main goalscorers. Sunderland were not much better than us today. Upgrade Berge and Andersen and we should be okay.

I do agree this is a massive overreaction, but I do think Sunderland were much better than us today. We didn't lay a glove on them in truth.
Absolutely.

Bassey the warrior


Wandsworthboy

Quote from: SimonDaviesEnjoyer on August 30, 2026, 05:05:32 PM
Quote from: Fulham 1879 on August 30, 2026, 05:02:21 PMThis is a massive overreaction. We're two games into the season with a new manager, who's inherited a squad from Silva with little resale value and having lost our two main goalscorers. Sunderland were not much better than us today. Upgrade Berge and Andersen and we should be okay.

I do agree this is a massive overreaction, but I do think Sunderland were much better than us today. We didn't lay a glove on them in truth.
Agree with this. We defended really well 1st half i thought but Leno's bloody dithering on the ball frustrates the hell out of me. Need a new keeper ASAP. And 2nd half we went to sh1t when they mixed it up a bit with their subs and we had  no answer.
Old skool 90's cheesy quaver


Twig


flyingfish

Everyone is forgetting how hard Sunderland were to beat at theirs last season. There wasn't a lot in it IMO, they took their chances and made better subs.

A few weeks ago we all agreed that Arbeloa needed time to settle in and bed in new players, last week we all agreed that it was a good performance against title contenders. Jeez

SP



cookieg

Oh dear. Two games and people are wetting the bed already.

SimonDaviesEnjoyer

Quote from: cookieg on August 30, 2026, 05:40:40 PMOh dear. Two games and people are wetting the bed already.

Yeah it's too early to panic, way too early.

I do think we need a few players though, namely GK, CB, CM.

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Andrew

It is not an over reaction at all. It's an indication that a novice manager with no intent of modifying his rigid view of how to play with a group of players unsuited to his preference will lead to many very disappointing days.

The bizarre substitutions were ridiculous... We needed a presence at centre forward but left the talented but ineffective Garcia unable to do his stuff

If anything my words were kind. I am massively worried we are likely to be bottom six all season.

Jims Dentist



Jock White

Quote from: Andrew on August 30, 2026, 06:52:00 PMIt is not an over reaction at all. It's an indication that a novice manager with no intent of modifying his rigid view of how to play with a group of players unsuited to his preference will lead to many very disappointing days.

The bizarre substitutions were ridiculous... We needed a presence at centre forward but left the talented but ineffective Garcia unable to do his stuff

If anything my words were kind. I am massively worried we are likely to be bottom six all season.
As long as we are not bottom three🤦�♂️

Twig

Quote from: Bassey the warrior on August 30, 2026, 05:45:53 PM
Quote from: Twig on August 30, 2026, 05:34:50 PM
Quote from: Bassey the warrior on August 30, 2026, 05:28:07 PMJeez, it's one game. Ridiculous overreaction.

Well no, it's two.

We weren't too bad vs Chelsea.

If you think we weren't too bad defensively or that our set up didn't leave us worryingly wide open then we watched different matches.