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In praise of Rodrigo Muniz

Started by C Block, October 25, 2026, 11:47:13 AM

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KentFulham

Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4

KentFulham

Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score

C Block

Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Unlike Garcia 😟


Kingjay81

Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4

What's this no defeats in 4 business? Does the Ipswich game not count or am I missing something?

hopper

He's a player that really inspires debate that's for sure.

I like him, and think he was constantly improving and the injuries really set him back. Contrary to what some say - he does score goals, at a steady rate. Thats said neither Marco nor Arbeloa seem to want him to be their main guy, and I do sometimes worry about his all round play, occasionally the ball bounces off him.

I also think as a fanbase we had Mitrovic who was just incredible and it's going to be very very hard to find someone that adequately replaces him and so it's proving.

Strikers are capricious beasts, they often do blow hot and cold with not much in between. There's also been a broader demise of the no 9. How many clubs out there are really happy with their no 9, and how many are there available that are sure fire bets?

Muniz is far from perfect, but I don't think he's beneath us and I'd like to see him rotating in more as Garcia is currently having issues in front of goals.

Whitestone

Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Unlike Garcia 😟

Garcia has only been here three months. Let's get behind him.
Muniz has had five years. How much more time should he be given ? Look, I'm not knocking Muniz but I can't see him ever being more than a back up striker.


MickTheBeard

With our more fuller depth of squad with a bit more quality the only area we did not add is all round goal scoring ability with nothing in the 21 s ready to step up yet.I thought with our new coach we would be more free flowing, but it seems the opposite to keep a clean sheet we are short of goals which could be a big problem later on in season.

C Block

Quote from: Whitestone on October 25, 2026, 08:36:21 PM
Quote from: C Block on October 25, 2026, 07:17:15 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:58 PM
Quote from: Mullers OG on October 25, 2026, 06:23:54 PMMuniz does what centre forwards should. He challenges for high balls, physically imposes himself and scores with his head (in both games he's started this season). 

As with all supporters I hope Garcia comes good but at the moment IMO Muniz is the better option.

Except he doesn't score
Unlike Garcia 😟

Garcia has only been here three months. Let's get behind him.
Muniz has had five years. How much more time should he be given ? Look, I'm not knocking Muniz but I can't see him ever being more than a back up striker.
Garcia has started 8 games in a row, maybe one of the statistician's on here could tell us the last time Rodrigo was able to start 8 consecutive league games in a row.

akf

Quote from: cookieg on October 25, 2026, 02:56:43 PMOn the flip side when we needed to keep the ball in the last few minutes with the ball at his feet rather than head for the corner he hit the ball straight to their keeper who started another attack which fortunately didn't cost us but easily could have.

To be fair, the keeper was way off his line.  Had he hit the ball cleanly and it traveled as he no doubt intended, the resulting goal would have been goal-of-the-month/year standard. 

That said, discretion over valor, he should have held the ball.


Trusty Steed

Do what Marco did with Jiminez & Muniz, & rotate Muniz & Garcia.
When one of them drops off, the other one gets thrown in and is hungry at the chance to keep his place and prove his worth.

Get more goals that way. I was hoping Garcia would get us close to 20 goals this season, but not looking likely yet. Still too early to tell, but I'd drop him, might give him a kick up the old aris

Somerset Fulham

Garcia is clearly a better footballer than Muniz, but that said; I do think that Muniz did very well when he came on yesterday and I still think that he can be an important part of the squad.

It would be handy if we could get an older head in to help both forwards, pretty much as Jiminez, or Willian did.

Andrew

Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4

You make a very reasonable point and I often say don't change something that is going well. BUT IMO we are scoring far to few goals and garcia isn't really threatening, I think there is a case for a change and also, nobody can be untouchable and it appears he is at the moment. I think it doesn't harm to make him work a bit harder for his place and in his case it isn't the effort on the pitch because that is clear for all to see, but to go away and think hard about his positioning... he was absent from the danger area so often yesterday, but he was still working hard.

The manger clearly loves him so I assume there is no chance of a switch for a while but one goal a game and none from him is not encouraging.  I repeat I think he is a good player, but needs to be used differently or he has to reconsider how he plays.


KentFulham

Quote from: Kingjay81 on October 25, 2026, 07:58:42 PM
Quote from: KentFulham on October 25, 2026, 07:13:31 PM
Quote from: Andrew on October 25, 2026, 07:08:22 PMI do not understand the criticism of Muniz. He was playing really well, got injured and took a while to get fit and has barely had a chance this season. He looked good yesterday scored in both cup games and represents a proper physical presence. He deserves a few games as starter... I like Garcia but he is clearly not being used to show his undoubted talent but he doesn't appear to be a centre forward .

Time for Muniz to have a chance

He has had 5 years, no need to change our formula while we are picking up poi ts with no defeat in 4

What's this no defeats in 4 business? Does the Ipswich game not count or am I missing something?

I mean 1 defeat in 5

Jims Dentist

Quote from: alfie on October 25, 2026, 05:27:26 PM
Quote from: Hugh Janus on October 25, 2026, 02:21:29 PMGarcia has been unconvincing so far but it's very early days. Muniz has had 5 seasons. He hasn't scored a Premier League goal since early August 2025. He won the corner yesterday by putting a very poor keeper under pressure but I still think he is no where near Premier League level. I wish that wasn't the case.
Can't say he has had great service from crosses.

He needs to stay in the box rather than drift wide or into midfield.

Jims Dentist

Quote from: MickTheBeard on October 25, 2026, 08:59:32 PMWith our more fuller depth of squad with a bit more quality the only area we did not add is all round goal scoring ability with nothing in the 21 s ready to step up yet.I thought with our new coach we would be more free flowing, but it seems the opposite to keep a clean sheet we are short of goals which could be a big problem later on in season.
As you day Mick, no striker ready to step up from below.
Can't see why we wasted more money £5m (on top of his loan fee) for Assare from B Munich.


bill taylors apprentice

Garcia is not playing like a typical No9 i.e. challenging the CB's. leading the line,shielding the ball etc.

He needs to focus on playing further up the pitch, make sharp runs off the shoulder of the last defender and show some clinical finishing.

Both his goes demonstrate what we need of him but he's been ineffective the rest of the time.

john dempsey

A decent service from the midfielders and decent crosses,
would be nice and helpful. for either of them.

C Block

Quote from: john dempsey on October 26, 2026, 08:22:16 AMA decent service from the midfielders and decent crosses,
would be nice and helpful. for either of them.
The best cross in the world at the moment would be totally wasted on Garcia as he wouldn't be on or around the penalty spot to receive it,
Until
Until he starts playing like a traditional number 9, if he's capable of that, things are very unlikely to improve,
He just doesn't give the centre backs a tough time does he ?


Hugh Janus

I'd start Muniz on Wednesday night but I'm not expecting much from him.

LittleErn

Quote from: howitis on October 25, 2026, 05:41:25 PMWhatever the answer is, it's definitely not
Muniz !!

I thought it was 42?