Deeney

[Ludlow Richard]

So Troy Deeney has put Shea Charles in his team of the week, saying

"Shea Charles (Fulham): I didn't really want to put a Fulham player in because I thought these are games they should be winning. However, the fact that they've won at Coventry and they got a clean sheet, and Charles has been excellent since he's come from Southampton, I just thought he should go in.

He controlled the game and adds a spark to a Fulham team that is pretty weak - lacklustre is the word I would use at times. Since he's been in the team regularly, guess what, they've started to pick up some results. So, fair play to them".

Very profound insight.........I  just wonder how much he is paid for this stuff.

[demeant0r]

Does he have an agenda against Fulham or something?

[The Cravenette]

I'm not sure he likes us.

[Deeping_white]

By that logic would the big 6 never have players in his ToTW because they should be expected to win every game???

[Dodger53]

He really is dreadful.

[Zoppa77]

I didn't care what that prat said as a player.
I certainly don't care what the fuc*w*t says now.
He's a mouth trying to get a response.
Piss off idiot.

[Coastwalker]

Actually when I've seen him on TV,he's always got good things to say about us.

[bencher]

I will agree with him that Charles deserves a spot in team of the week. The rest can be ignored.

[alfie]

I think he is entitled to his opinion, just like everyone else.

[FFC007]

Deeney stole a living from the game, and he's doing a similar job with his twaddle every week in the bbc sports pages.

How our license fee is justified in employing him for footballing matters beggars belief.

[Southcoastffc]

Tbf, he can string a sentence together and can be interesting.  However,  I think he sometimes doesn't know what he's talking about (no 'research') but that doesn't stop him talking.

[copthornemike]

Is this the Troy Deeney who ended up behind bars for violent affray?
Why do these publications give him the time of day?

[alfie]

Is this the Troy Deeney who ended up behind bars for violent affray?
Why do these publications give him the time of day?
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Is this the Troy Deeney who ended up behind bars for violent affray?
Why do these publications give him the time of day?

Maybe like most of us he is entitled to a second chance.

[KJS]

Deeney is a total tool

[AJW48361]

I think he is Clueless.

[v]

File under 'Grudging'

[Deeping_white]

I think he used to be nicer about us because he quite liked Marco Silva as one of his favourite former coaches, so I assume that now he's not our manager he'll join in with the other casual pundits in having awful uninformed takes that cause us all to facepalm at their inaccuracy or ridiculousness

[General]

A couple of Charles videos circling on twitter which show just how tidy a player he is and has been for us this season.

📊 Shea Charles, data report

One of the most well-rounded u23 midfielders on the planet.

- contributes in the final third in terms of shots and chances created
- also deeper when out of possession via shot blocks and interceptions
- also above average in terms of on-ball contributions, like passing to just about every depth/angle, and progressive runs
- and he's top quartile among T9 midfielders for aerial duel volume and success, which is great for a u23 player

If you look at how he was used last year, vs. the Southampton team medians, his contributions were stronger felt in more deeper-lying midfielder aspects, like progressives and fwd passes, rather than dribbles or penalty area entries (both above average, but P89 for f3rd entries and P62 for penalty area entries, just as an example).

This season at Fulham, he's also BY FAR the T5 leader for interceptions among midfielders, like multiple standard deviations above the average.

My assessment of him is that he's going to do a job at whichever midfield role is needed.

Fulham has had a poor start to the league, and even though he plays alongside Sander Berge, he needs to cover deeper defensively.

He could play in a side where they see more possession and has that holding midfielder behind him, so he can be a true box-to-box.

I think he could also even be the deepest lying midfielder if needed.

The reply I'm quoting is to a post I made about u23 players off to hot starts in my models for positions, and I listed Charles under the ball winning midfielder segment, rather than box to box.

I think this is a product of his current situation, but I'd also want to clarify that ball winning =/= no. 6, and box to box =/= no. 8.

In truth, those might be a bit misleading... I call the two positions "midfield thunder" (ball winner) and "midfield lighting" (b2b) as the actual labels. The two models are meant to encapsulate responsibilities, not positions.

I think he's going to be one of the most sought-after midfielders by "top 6" PL teams by summer 2028.
https://x.com/fc_mossman/status/2105040385244307792


Shea Charles Video highlights vs Hull
https://x.com/percivalprods/status/2111724005765837056?s=20

Shea Charles Video highlights vs Utd
https://x.com/chestermanutd3/status/2101846700876829105?s=20