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NFR - Reading need a manager

Started by cebu, March 11, 2013, 06:00:55 PM

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NogoodBoyo

Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!?  Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! 
Didn't Coleman teach us anything?  A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager.  The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO.  Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch.  That's probably only 15% of the job.  Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman. 
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HatterDon

Quote from: NogoodBoyo on March 12, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!?  Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! 
Didn't Coleman teach us anything?  A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager.  The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO.  Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch.  That's probably only 15% of the job.  Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman. 
Nogood "blimey, sorry Oakeshott but I feel better for that, I do" Boyo

Exactly! Look how many times Coleman got us relegated!

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Quote from: HatterDon on March 12, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on March 12, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!?  Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! 
Didn't Coleman teach us anything?  A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager.  The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO.  Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch.  That's probably only 15% of the job.  Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman. 
Nogood "blimey, sorry Oakeshott but I feel better for that, I do" Boyo

Exactly! Look how many times Coleman got us relegated!

He did not get us relegated true but he also got us know where and started with a quality squad and ended with a mediocre one.  Tigana put us on a road of progress to being a very good team, Coleman stalled that for 4 years.

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Quote from: A Humble Man on March 12, 2013, 05:46:41 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on March 12, 2013, 05:40:22 PM
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on March 12, 2013, 04:13:47 PM
Sorry to lowjack this Reading thread, but Oakeshott, Danny Murphy for manager of Fulham?!?!?!?!?  Ye gods and little fishes, please NO, NO NOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!! 
Didn't Coleman teach us anything?  A Premier club should NEVER, EVER, EVER SCHMEVER put an untried and untested ex-player/captain in as manager.  The jobs are so completely different that it would be the equivalent of Microsoft putting a good young salesman of the month in as CEO.  Laughable idea for laughable results.
There's so much more to management than leading on the pitch.  That's probably only 15% of the job.  Even Jol shows many signs of managerial naivety (talking about contract negotiations with players in the press leaps to mind) and he's a man with a pedigree and experience.
Thankfully (or shuold I say, hopefully), Fulham's management learned their lesson with Coleman. 
Nogood "blimey, sorry Oakeshott but I feel better for that, I do" Boyo

Exactly! Look how many times Coleman got us relegated!

He did not get us relegated true but he also got us know where and started with a quality squad and ended with a mediocre one.  Tigana put us on a road of progress to being a very good team, Coleman stalled that for 4 years.


...and remind me - how much did Coleman get to spend after we sold off Van Der Sar and Saha? Coleman was given a minute amount to spend each transfer window and so all he could get was basic squad players and end of career signings. When Saha and VDS were in the team we did pretty good in the league and had he had the money to strengthen the squad further with quality players who knows what could have been achieved.

I'm not saying Coleman was a perfect manager, nor even a tactical genius, and I know he had his run in's with Steed and basically booted Lee Clark out but I think he has been much maligned for things that were beyond his control...
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Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.

Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.

domprague

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Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM

Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.

Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.
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SP

Quote from: domprague on March 12, 2013, 12:52:42 PM
They spent very little last summer. That might have had something to do with it...

I'm not sure what the plan is at Reading, the mega bucks Russian owner arrived in town with his beautiful wife & looked set to lavish millions on his team. What followed, the Pog & Stephen Kelly but no idea who else.  Relegation will put the mockers on any 5 year plan.

Berserker

Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM

Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.

Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.

I've got quite a irrational dislike for Di Canio, hope we never get him at Fulham. Not sure why that is as he's rather a fan's favourite here in my home town of Swindon, also the dream manager for my West Ham work colleague. Suppose sometimes we just get a dislike for some people
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Quote from: Berserker on March 12, 2013, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM

Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.

Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.

I've got quite a irrational dislike for Di Canio, hope we never get him at Fulham. Not sure why that is as he's rather a fan's favourite here in my home town of Swindon, also the dream manager for my West Ham work colleague. Suppose sometimes we just get a dislike for some people

Could you have repressed racialist tendancies?  A lot of East Enders do.
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daib0

Quote from: Oakeshott on March 12, 2013, 02:53:13 PM
daib0

Back in the late 1920s and early 1930s my grandfather used to be the Chairman of Reading, so they've always been my second team. I hope it works out, though it looks doubtful.

I would go for Adkins very time over DC - and indeed over any other currently unemployed manager of whom I can think. He strikes me as having as good a chance as any of keeping you up, because he is a motivator and at this stage that is principally what is needed. And if you go down he has a very good chance of getting you back up as he knows what is required. (In fact, if Jol goes at the end of the season, as I very much hope, Adkins would be second only to Danny Murphy as my choice to replace him, so maybe on reflection I hope you appoint DC!)

I'm glad Fulham don't have a Russian owner! 



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SaltfordWhite

Well Di Cannio's racist tendancies aren't particularly repressed, which is why a lot of people don't like him I guess.

Saying that, the entertainment value that he would bring to any other Premier League club would be worth it's weight in gold.  Not for us though, thank you!

domprague

Well, Di Canio has said he is a Fascist and gave the Fascist salute while playing for Lazio, a club plagued by racist hooligans.
Besides, it may be that people dislike him because he's a ******** not because he's Italian.

Quote from: A Humble Man on March 13, 2013, 11:42:26 AM
Quote from: Berserker on March 12, 2013, 10:33:41 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on March 12, 2013, 07:04:05 PM

Coleman's management record with us is defendable but since he left? He clearly hasn't got what it takes.

Danny Murphy could but before managing us I'd want him to prove it in the lower leagues. In truth DiCanio has sort of done that with Swindon but I wouldn't want him managing us and I'd be wary if I was a Reading supporter.

I've got quite a irrational dislike for Di Canio, hope we never get him at Fulham. Not sure why that is as he's rather a fan's favourite here in my home town of Swindon, also the dream manager for my West Ham work colleague. Suppose sometimes we just get a dislike for some people

Could you have repressed racialist tendancies?  A lot of East Enders do.
You came all this way ... and you lost, and you lost.