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Whites or Cottagers?

Started by Twig, October 03, 2014, 06:01:30 AM

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Me-ate-Live, innit??

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SO IT'S .....................



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JHaynes Paperboy

In FULHAM a complete record 1879-1987 by Dennis Turner and Alex White page 9.One of the "founders", H.D.Shrimpton,stated categorically in his "Foundation History of the Cottagers" that " the Fulham Football Club was founded in 1879 and NOT 1880 as sometimes published"

nose

Do I look like I care what we call ourselves, as long as things are going well!

Neither term is used in anything but an affectionate way, whites could imply racist and cottagers is something my kids explained to me.

I think both terms are 100% OK and the thought police need to be eliminated.


Northern Cottager

I only realised what "cottaging" was after I'd created my username on here. Always referred to us as the Cottagers until I found these filthy swingers messaging me!

TonyGilroy

Quote from: JHaynes Paperboy on October 03, 2014, 11:55:10 AM
In FULHAM a complete record 1879-1987 by Dennis Turner and Alex White page 9.One of the "founders", H.D.Shrimpton,stated categorically in his "Foundation History of the Cottagers" that " the Fulham Football Club was founded in 1879 and NOT 1880 as sometimes published"

The new book is much more uncertain.

There seems to be no evidence prior to 1883 although the club was clearly in existence by then

blingo



Fernhurst

Quote from: Woodlawn on October 03, 2014, 11:43:56 AM
We were always known as the lilywhites, I have books going back to the 1920's and it  says Fulham football club Nickname "LILLYWHITES"


AT LAST........ Let's drop all this Cottaging marlarky..... Come on you Lillie's !!!
The atmosphere's fresh and the debate lively.

Mince n Tatties

I like the Clyde FC one,  ! THE BULLY WEE !

Berserker

Jambo's for me
Twitter: @hollyberry6699

'Only in the darkness can you see the stars'

- Martin Luther King Jr.


Burt

We have no songs or chants that reference "Cottagers".

Nobody I know who supports us calls us the Cottagers.

For me it has always been the whites.

YankeeJim

Quote from: Martinsback on October 03, 2014, 09:09:50 AM
Quote from: Deanothefulhamfan on October 03, 2014, 08:56:42 AM
Martin is this a wind up attempt, with all the PC talk on here lately I am not sure if you are being serious? 

Why oh why is "Cottagers" not PC? Surely we now all embrace practices which used to be considered uncouth or bawdy? It is the imperialistic stereotyping and racial superiority that should and will be banned in the future. Come on Fulham this is 2014 after all.

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Its not that I could and others couldn't.
Its that I did and others didn't.

colinwhite

Come on you lillywhites ! that is what we always called our 049:gif team .
Cottagers -no fulham fan has ever called the team the cottagers .


SG

Our nickname has been 'The Cottagers' for as long as I can remember - more than 50 years. But years ago we were always called 'The Lilywhites' when cheering the team on. Room for both names it seems to me.
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NogoodBoyo

I don't care what we're called although there's a certain style about getting behind the Cottagers and/or the Lillywhites.  Even if we are the butt of the opposition's jokes, we just smile knowingly without being smug.  After all, no other club has a fully-grown cottage on the edge of its pitch.
Nogood "cottage industry that, isit" Boyo

Peabody

Quote from: NogoodBoyo on October 03, 2014, 07:33:50 PM
I don't care what we're called although there's a certain style about getting behind the Cottagers and/or the Lillywhites.  Even if we are the butt of the opposition's jokes, we just smile knowingly without being smug.  After all, no other club has a fully-grown cottage on the edge of its pitch.
Nogood "cottage industry that, isit" Boyo

Ah but Everton have a full blown Chapel in the corner of their ground. So, should they stop being called The Toffees?


love4ffc

It's interesting hearing all the long time supporters comments on here as I like hearing about the clubs history.  I did not know that the whites came from Lily Lane. 

Since I started supporting FFC I have always known that our nickname was the Cottagers.  Never knew it could mean anything else until today.  I've also known us to be called the Whites but that was only because of our choice in shirt colors not because of race superiority.  If that was the case then why on earth would Rod or Dembele want to play for us. 

This PC thing is getting way out of hand.  I heard the other day on the radio that the movie Gone with the Wind is no longer PC to see.  That most people under the age of 30 have never seen it due to it having a rape scene and slaves.  My God people get over yourselves.  Time to grow up and move on.

That's my rant for the day  :048:
Anyone can blend into the crowd.  How will you standout when it counts?

Berserker

I bought Gone with the Wind a few months ago and have only watched half of it as got a bit bored. I will watch the rest at some point.
If you are watching something in your home that isn't particularly PC, eg in my case the box set and movie of the Inbetweeners whem Mr B was away, does it matter. Doubt if the inbetweeners is PC
Twitter: @hollyberry6699

'Only in the darkness can you see the stars'

- Martin Luther King Jr.

CravenCottager

Does it matter? I for one couldn't give two hoots if there are connotations or not (as you can see from my name on here). Whites, cottagers,  lilywhites - it is still the club (and fans) I love.
"The first 90 minutes are the most important".


Logicalman

I seem to recall the 'Cottagers' tag from way back when I was in shorts as well, so the idea it is 'recent' (?) does seem a little wayward.

I did find a reference that claims the name originated as far back as 1908 under Bradshaw, but without a definite confirmation from a better source that cannot be taken as conclusive (2 or three suitable references is the only evidence I would accept absolutely). I do further digging into my history books.
Logical is just in the name - don't expect it has anything to do with my thought process, because I AM the man who sold the world.

Logicalman

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OK then, quick find and the Sunday Pictorial (Sunday Mirror Newspaper) has a report dated Jan 26, 1936, on the Fulham 5 Black[pool 2 match, by Ted Hufton, with the following text ...

" Perry, scoring four goals in succession, made this match a personal triumph, but it was no one man victory that Fulham obtained.
Team-work was the basis of the Cottagers' success - team work in which the defence as well the attack shared
"

I'll get a pic of the article up as soon as I can find how.

So, possibly settles the initial dispute as to age, perhaps just down the personal preference now?
Logical is just in the name - don't expect it has anything to do with my thought process, because I AM the man who sold the world.