A Flag for Mr Fayed, how many on here would contribute to costs..?

[BlackandWhiteFilm]

Mr Flag make stadium flags

http://www.mrflag.com/p/6259/Custom_Stadium_Flags.html

Get a quote from them?

[os5889]

Im sure there will be a fair few more willing to pay up now, any news on this yet?

[LBNo11]

...I have sent a Tender Enquiry to the following companies:-
Mr Flag
Football Banners
Flying Colours
Barmy Flags

This is what I requested:


Hi, I would like a quotation for the manufacture and delivery of a banner/flag of sufficient size to be displayed at a football ground 'terrace' (The Fulham Football Club).

I would appreciate your guidance in advising the following:

1) What are three popular most and practical sizes for manoeuvrability as this will be held above the supporters heads, and possibly moved from side to side?

2) I assume that the more complex the design, and the more colours the greater the cost, can you advise a breakdown of such costings.

3) It will have to be of a practical weight when manufactured to be carried within the ground to and from the terrace to a storage area in the ground; can you advise what the weights are for the three popular sizes.

4) Do you supply a storage/carry bag (canvas?) as standard, if not please would you advise what extra cost this would be.

5) Please advise shipping costs.

6) Can I pay via paypal or via a cheque or do you have any other methods?

7) Will you require payment in full before production commences, or will a part down payment be acceptable, with final payment prior to despatch?

8) Please advise the validity of your quotation, as I have to raise funding and I would appreciate at least 180 days.

9) Do you offer and warranty on the finished product, if not can you advise if you offer an insurance package?

10) Finally, can you give an indication of a realistic delivery lead time for the largest banner/flag option.

Thank you in anticipation of your early response.

I have spoken with WhiteJC and he is looking into setting up a payment account so that pledges/donations can be made.

When member Papa can submit the other drawings he posted on TiFF then we will put a poll 'sticky' up on here so that we can make our choices.

As soon as I receive any answers I will post them on here.

Any help and practical support re my previous logistics post would be helpful...

[AlFayedsChequebook]

Great Stuff LBNo11, I will happily contribute. Well done on getting the ball rolling on this!

[Scrumpy]

Well done L.B. and White JC. There are those that watch things happen and those that make things happen....

[bigalffc]

Nice one LB thamks for taking it on

[LBNo11]

...I'm just starting the ball rolling bigalffc, eventually someone will have to take on the responsibility of looking after the flag in the HE, and distributing it and collecting it, as well as sorting out storage facilities etc.,

Anyway, as they say "a journey of a thousand miles starts with but a single step"...

[Oakeshott]

Great.

Let's hope we can have the flag in time for our Wembley appearance. It might be expensive to take it to Hamburg!

[Jimpav]

Excellent, thank you.

[LRCN]

LB, perhaps edit the update into the first post - or make a new topic, this is a massive step forward. well done mate.

[BarneyTravers]

H&S update

LB...One thing that I did not request when i ordered the Motpsur Park one was that it requires a fire certificate to be allowed into our ground (Tommy Guthrie advised me of this) and presumably other English grounds...European legislation is not so stringent...basically the flag just has to be coated in some kind of fire proof solution.

Fulham for the cups

[LBNo11]

...First quote received:-

1) What are three popular most and practical sizes for manoeuvrability as

this will be held above the supporters heads, and possibly moved from side

to side?

There is no particular size as flags seem to be governed by the cost of how much can be clubbed together. However 2 practical  sizes are 15m  x 9m  or 10m  x 6m. (but you can have larger ie 20m x 30m)

2) I assume that the more complex the design, and the more colours the

greater the cost, can you advise a breakdown of such costings.

Actually this varies - if we digitally print,  then you can have as many colours as you like - it will not alter the cost as colour print is the same price as black print.. However the best value flags would be to have a combination of stock coloured fabric (off the roll) with digitally printed badges stitched on, for the complex work.

It is near impossible to offer a price until we roughly know what you may like on your crowd banner. - text ? artwork ?, badges  ? logo?

if you can offer any ideas then please let us know then we can give you a good idea of cost.  If you offer your idea to us we will then advise which is the best way to manufacture your proposed crowd banner.

To offer a rough idea a printed flag at 10m x 6m could cost approx £1500.00 where A simple black and white sewn flag with FFC could cost £650 - £700

All Prices plus VAT

3) It will have to be of a practical weight when manufactured to be carried

within the ground to and from the terrace to a storage area in the ground;

can you advise what the weights are for the three popular sizes.

For 15 x 9m =  approx 16kg   10m x 6m  = approx 7.5kg   20m x 30m  approx 70 kgs (fabric weighs 110 grams per sq metre)

4) Do you supply a storage/carry bag (canvas?) as standard, if not please

would you advise what extra cost this would be.

Yes we can make one,  price will be approx   £25 /  £35/  £50.00



5) Please advise shipping costs.

Small ones will be approx £25.00 larger one £40



6) Can I pay via paypal or via a cheque or do you have any other methods?

Cheque or Debit card - we charge a small fee for cc at 2.5% - All prices plus delivery and VAT



7) Will you require payment in full before production commences, or will a

part down payment be acceptable, with final payment prior to despatch?

We will be happy with 1/2 with order and balance on completion.



8) Please advise the validity of your quotation, as I have to raise funding

and I would appreciate at least 180 days.

We will honour our quotation for 6 months

9) Do you offer and warranty on the finished product, if not can you advise

if you offer an insurance package?

We do not offer any warranty or Insurance, Perhaps you could get an option on your household insurance?



10) Finally, can you give an indication of a realistic delivery lead time

for the largest banner/flag option.

based on the smaller sizes:

If the flag is all printed then 1 - 2 weeks

If sewn with printed badges 2 - 4 weeks



Thank you in anticipation of your early response.


Regards

Andy Ormrod

         
 By Appointment to              By Appointment to
Her Majesty The Queen     HRH The Prince of Wales
   Flag Manufacturer                 Flag Manufacturer

Flying Colours Flagmakers
Units 5 and 6 Orchard Court
Iles Lane
Knaresborough
North Yorkshire
HG5 8PP

[LBNo11]

...second quote:-

Hello Ed, and thank you for your enquiry for which I am pleased to provide this proposal:

1). Sizes as per attached proposal
2). Cost is not affected by design/colours
3). weight will be between 9kg and 12kg depending upon which size you choose
4). Bag is included
5). Carriage cost - £25 + VAT
6). Cheque, BACS or Credit/Debit Card
7). Payment in full, within 48 hours of order being placed
8). See attached. 180 days
9). We are unable to guarantee this type of product and have no insurance plan. You may be able to insure under the stadium cover
10). See attached. 7 to 10 days from placement of order

Crowd Banner in Flag FR – 115GSM knitted polyester
Printed single-sided – Landscape style
Printed in your chosen design from artwork supplied by you
Strong hem all round
Grab handles all round
Carry bag supplied

12,000 x 8,000 - your investment will be £1,768 + VAT
10,000 x 8,000 - your investment will be £1,480 + VAT
10,000 x 7,000 - your investment will be £1,300 + VAT

Delivery in either case will be £25 + VAT

Delivery: You should allow 7 - 10 days from confirmation of suitable artwork, and all finishing detail.

Please call me on ****** if you have any questions regarding this proposal or if you wish to make any changes.

Kind regards



Gary Thorpe
Sales Manager – Hi-Fli Banners & Flags Ltd

[Edwatch_Winston_Malone]

you can have £10 from me - PayPal is it?

[LBNo11]

[Papa]

Two others I posted on TIFF

[LBNo11]

...now we are getting somewhere, thanks Papa - in the one with both the Fulham badges, can you put THANK above Mr Fayed's head and YOU beneath..?

[Papa]

...now we are getting somewhere, thanks Papa - in the one with both the Fulham badges, can you put THANK above Mr Fayed's head and YOU beneath..?

[LBNo11]

...thanks Papa, sorry to be a pain, but just to add colour would you put the words thank you in red, and could you reduce both Fulham badges by about 10% - yes I know, I am a slave driver.. :54:

[AlFayedsChequebook]

Its 2,3 or 4 for me. I am not sure we need 'THANK YOU' emblazened on it, I think the simpler the better.