Two blasts from the past/We're obsessed with them

[The King]

Nicky Shorey scored a free kick to level it up for Reading vs QPR, and now Pogrebnyak scored to make it 3-2 for Reading. Pavel just missed a penalty though.

Michael Marshall on Twitter: "Mark Hughes? Blackburn - poor, City - poor, and now QPR - poor. Every owner has given him investment but he's always under delivered."

Quote from the BBC live report. How come he doesn't mention Fulham? Are Fulham that good that even with a poor (he says) manager like Hughes they'll still do well?

[AlFayedsChequebook]

Oh dear.

Losing to bottom of the league Reading at home with a full strength team?

Imagine how FOF would react!

[MOR :]

They were stretched all the way to Westfield Shopping Complex to get into this one...11,562

[Jambo]

I shouldnt enjoy it but I do.

I always had a feeling that hughes would regret this quote when he said it

http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/150707.html

[Jambo]

Oh dear.

Losing to bottom of the league Reading at home with a full strength team?

Imagine how FOF would react!

Whilst Reading made 7 changes!!

[mccscratch]

Shorey was a very tidy albeit brief player for us as was the Pog, happy for both of them at Reading!

[AlFayedsChequebook]

Oh dear.

Losing to bottom of the league Reading at home with a full strength team?

Imagine how FOF would react!

Whilst Reading made 7 changes!!

The funniest thing is that their fans were talking about how the team had been improving so much and were looking decent despite the continual losses.

A poor result against West Ham at home could be the writing on the wall for Hughes....

[Fletchino]

Just had a quick look at we are the gay boys website and the Hughes out bandwagon is gathering momentum fast. Hughes out Hughes out 

[Fletchino]

Well done reading and the POG for getting the winner!! Hughes out!!!

[Jambo]

They have got Harry Redknapp written all over them

[hongkongfulham]

Just had a quick look at we are the gay boys website and the Hughes out bandwagon is gathering momentum fast. Hughes out Hughes out  

im not one to obsess over qpr but i had to go look. great entertainment

[Fletchino]

Just seen the pogs goal checky finish would really hurt to go out to that. Also looked like reading had the whole end which would mean that only 8000 qpr fans turned up I thought they locked out 25000 every week!!!!

[DiegoFulham]

They have got Harry Redknapp written all over them

Yeah I agree, Redknapp is a good manager unlike Sparkyless so i fear if that happens we've got competition

[HatterDon]

Nicky Shorey scored a free kick to level it up for Reading vs QPR, and now Pogrebnyak scored to make it 3-2 for Reading. Pavel just missed a penalty though.

Michael Marshall on Twitter: "Mark Hughes? Blackburn - poor, City - poor, and now QPR - poor. Every owner has given him investment but he's always under delivered."

Quote from the BBC live report. How come he doesn't mention Fulham? Are Fulham that good that even with a poor (he says) manager like Hughes they'll still do well?

Because it didn't fit his construct. Why mention Hughes at Fulham in that series since the only season he was in charge we finished with the second highest finish in our history.

[Rupert]

Nicky Shorey scored a free kick to level it up for Reading vs QPR, and now Pogrebnyak scored to make it 3-2 for Reading. Pavel just missed a penalty though.

Michael Marshall on Twitter: "Mark Hughes? Blackburn - poor, City - poor, and now QPR - poor. Every owner has given him investment but he's always under delivered."

Quote from the BBC live report. How come he doesn't mention Fulham? Are Fulham that good that even with a poor (he says) manager like Hughes they'll still do well?

Because it didn't fit his construct. Why mention Hughes at Fulham in that series since the only season he was in charge we finished with the second highest finish in our history.

Hmm, just a thought here, feel free to shoot me down in flames if you wish, but is there some sort of link between Hughes being allowed to choose who he signs, money no object (City and the Ha-Has, not sure about Blackburn) and doing poorer than expected, and being told who to sign by us yet making a decent job of it? Might that be his "lack of ambition" problem? He fancied some over-rated signings, our CEO said no chance, have these lads instead.

[HatterDon]

Nicky Shorey scored a free kick to level it up for Reading vs QPR, and now Pogrebnyak scored to make it 3-2 for Reading. Pavel just missed a penalty though.

Michael Marshall on Twitter: "Mark Hughes? Blackburn - poor, City - poor, and now QPR - poor. Every owner has given him investment but he's always under delivered."

Quote from the BBC live report. How come he doesn't mention Fulham? Are Fulham that good that even with a poor (he says) manager like Hughes they'll still do well?

Because it didn't fit his construct. Why mention Hughes at Fulham in that series since the only season he was in charge we finished with the second highest finish in our history.

Hmm, just a thought here, feel free to shoot me down in flames if you wish, but is there some sort of link between Hughes being allowed to choose who he signs, money no object (City and the Ha-Has, not sure about Blackburn) and doing poorer than expected, and being told who to sign by us yet making a decent job of it? Might that be his "lack of ambition" problem? He fancied some over-rated signings, our CEO said no chance, have these lads instead.

Possibly, but I still believe:

1. MAF wanted Jol in the first place.
2. We couldn't fire Hughes and hire Jol after the great season we had under Hughes. So what we did was:
3. promise Hughes that he'd have the money he needed to move "to the next level,"
4. then tell him that he wasn't getting any money at all in a successful effort to get him to walk
5. hire the guy MAF wanted in the first place and give him the funds to sign Ruiz, Riise, etc.

It seems to me that first being told "you'll get the money you need" and then "you're not getting ANY money" might lead Hughes to believe that the club "had no ambition." A cool way to get rid of the guy the didn't want and make him look like the villain.

This cool way has been repeated since.

[cebu]

Nicky Shorey scored a free kick to level it up for Reading vs QPR, and now Pogrebnyak scored to make it 3-2 for Reading. Pavel just missed a penalty though.

Michael Marshall on Twitter: "Mark Hughes? Blackburn - poor, City - poor, and now QPR - poor. Every owner has given him investment but he's always under delivered."

Quote from the BBC live report. How come he doesn't mention Fulham? Are Fulham that good that even with a poor (he says) manager like Hughes they'll still do well?

Because it didn't fit his construct. Why mention Hughes at Fulham in that series since the only season he was in charge we finished with the second highest finish in our history.

Hmm, just a thought here, feel free to shoot me down in flames if you wish, but is there some sort of link between Hughes being allowed to choose who he signs, money no object (City and the Ha-Has, not sure about Blackburn) and doing poorer than expected, and being told who to sign by us yet making a decent job of it? Might that be his "lack of ambition" problem? He fancied some over-rated signings, our CEO said no chance, have these lads instead.

Possibly, but I still believe:

1. MAF wanted Jol in the first place.
2. We couldn't fire Hughes and hire Jol after the great season we had under Hughes. So what we did was:
3. promise Hughes that he'd have the money he needed to move "to the next level,"
4. then tell him that he wasn't getting any money at all in a successful effort to get him to walk
5. hire the guy MAF wanted in the first place and give him the funds to sign Ruiz, Riise, etc.

It seems to me that first being told "you'll get the money you need" and then "you're not getting ANY money" might lead Hughes to believe that the club "had no ambition." A cool way to get rid of the guy the didn't want and make him look like the villain.

This cool way has been repeated since.

I thought the same thing at the time it happened. I disagree slightly with point 4, as I think it should read:
4. then tell him that he wasn't getting any money at all in a successful effort to get him to walk without MAF having to give Hughes even one penny compensation.

[jazz hardrockin]

Hughes...just look at his record....lol...who cares

[Rupert]

Hughes...just look at his record....lol...who cares

Well, as a few of us are discussing this topic, clearly some of us do, if that's okay with you? Feel free to ignore the topic if it makes you laugh out loud all the time, which must get a little wearying, I would have thought.

Hatter, I do not dispute that you have presented a very viable scenario there, and I certainly don't think that Fulham FC is above any such double-dealing, but if it was as you say, then I am more than a little surprised at the lack of comment from Hughes or his entourage. This did more or less blow the sympathy he had built up after being shafted by Man City, and he has found subsequent "ambitious" employment hard to find, hence his current situation.

By the by, I had a quick perusal of one of the Ha-Ha boards last night, some of them are claiming that he didn't do well with us, saying that our high position finish was only a few points away from lower mid-table, and with the squad he had he ought to have done better. Not my opinion, I was happy enough with the post-Christmas recovery, but food for thought?

[hongkongfulham]

Possibly, but I still believe:

1. MAF wanted Jol in the first place.
2. We couldn't fire Hughes and hire Jol after the great season we had under Hughes. So what we did was:
3. promise Hughes that he'd have the money he needed to move "to the next level,"
4. then tell him that he wasn't getting any money at all in a successful effort to get him to walk
5. hire the guy MAF wanted in the first place and give him the funds to sign Ruiz, Riise, etc.

It seems to me that first being told "you'll get the money you need" and then "you're not getting ANY money" might lead Hughes to believe that the club "had no ambition." A cool way to get rid of the guy the didn't want and make him look like the villain.

This cool way has been repeated since.

never really thought of it like that, interesting