Senderos

[TheDon]

hang him

[A Humble Man]

Arsenal after six seasons realised that he was a very good player but also a very unlucky players as when he makes a mistake he is almost always punished with a goal against.

All players make mistakes but frequently get away with them Senderos does not.

[mccscratch]

Arsenal after six seasons realised that he was a very good player but also a very unlucky players as when he makes a mistake he is almost always punished with a goal against.

All players make mistakes but frequently get away with them Senderos does not.

Spot on accurate... he played well 98% of the match yesterday but the other 2% cost us dearly... poor lad.

[nose]

senderos had his best game yesterday, i have no complaints. the goal was a pity but rooney is a top class player that was able to exploit a situation.
I thought sendeross and hufhes were ok togetehr, if he (PS) keepes his concentration in gamers to come  i am prepared to forgive and forget.

[Berserker]

I think he'll get better the more he plays

[Mr K.Dilkington]

Philippe senders is not breed hangeland.

He gives 100% every time. Prone to the odd lapse but come on guys cut the guy a bit of slack.

We kept man utd to one goal and could ave scored a few ourselves.....

Oh, I agree with this. Now if we could just breed Hangeland.  Even a little Hangeland would be just over 6 foot.....

(Being facetious on a Sunday morning now, is it?  Who do you think you are, Nogood Boyo? )

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[leonffc]

Look at the number of times Dejagah lost the ball or made bad passes during the game. You don't see an 8 page thread about that.

I'm proud of every single Fulham player last night. They gave their all and you can't ask any more than that.

I'm happy to contribute to a threat about Dejagah. Poor first touch, looks really strong but seems to knock himself off the ball, terrible decision making. And similar looking to Bouazza.
Occasional good play but not good enough for Fulham or the premier league

[TonyGilroy]

I think Dejagah is starting to come good. He just might be a big player for us next season. 

[LBNo11]

I think Dejagah is starting to come good. He just might be a big player for us next season. 

...I agree, some nice ball control, once he offloads the ball faster and stops making too many twists and turns 'Mick' will come good...

[theotherdembele]

I think Dejagah is starting to come good. He just might be a big player for us next season. 

...I agree, some nice ball control, once he offloads the ball faster and stops making too many twists and turns 'Mick' will come good...

Dejagah has NO touch how that agrees to nice ball control confuses me?

Staying on topic Senderos will never be a prem player i actually really wanted him to do well yesterday, and he did until he's costly error which inevitably left us coming away with 0 points. The premier league is a unforgiving place and you cant have a walking liability like that in your squad.

[YankeeJim]

It all seems a bit harsh to me. When a striker makes a mistake the ball ends up in row Z. When a midfielder does some defender covers for him. Only when one of the back five blows it, he's "punished". I've been critical of Senderos but liked what he did during the scuffle with West Ham. He plays hard. In a way, he is a bit like Baird.

[LordNelson]

 :Get Coat gif:

On reflection & after seeing the goal several times I feel that most of the blame should go to Hughes. He should have stood his ground rather than back pedal. Rooney would have had to check his run. This would have given Reither time to get behind Hughes as 2nd cover.

:plus one:
Senderos was marking Hernandez--probably like he was told to do when the Mex. came in. I don't understand why people are trying to lay blame on him.

[Roberty]

I think Dejagah is starting to come good. He just might be a big player for us next season.  

...I agree, some nice ball control, once he offloads the ball faster and stops making too many twists and turns 'Mick' will come good...

Dejagah has NO touch how that agrees to nice ball control confuses me? 

Staying on topic Senderos will never be a prem player i actually really wanted him to do well yesterday, and he did until he's costly error which inevitably left us coming away with 0 points. The premier league is a unforgiving place and you cant have a walking liability like that in your squad.

I think he is entirely responsible for the fact that we have not won 21 of the 29 (cups & league) games we have played this season.
Woop - he only seems to have only started 7 of them and come an as a sub for 3 others.
Maybe their are others who have made a mistake?
So who didn't make a mistake - I think it must be only those who haven't played.
The way forward - all the players who haven't made a mistake - basically those who have not played so far this season - should start against Norwich.
Do you think Jol has though of this brilliant plan?

[hongkongfulham]

on senderos, he tried to pass the ball forward out of defense rather than back to mark which really helped us i felt.

[A Humble Man]

When a forward or a midfielder loses the ball it is not usually a goal.  If a deep lying centre back loses or misjudges a ball it usually is.  Mistakes your keeper or you centre backs make are always the most costly.  Senderos badly misjudged the flight of the ball but Hughes stood off Rooney when he should of tackled as well so it was shared culpability.  You could also add that Riise had time to get on the post. 

So let us lay off Senderos and give the chap a chance and hope his luck improves as a win at Norwich gets us much nearer safety.

[MJG]

the issue I have with Senderos is exactly what he did the other day. He is far too tight to players when marking them.
He either trys to get in front of them to win the ball and hence gets turned quite often or he is all over the player and that does not give him the room to jump and make a header. That's what happened on Saturday and for him ruined a good performance.

[Roberty]

He could back off of course.
Would we blame him for doing that if it resulted in a goal against us?

[westcliff white]

As I said earlier he did well Saturday and Wednesday for that matter. Issue on Saturday was he was neither tight nor standing off. When the ball was in flight he went to the player rather than attacking the ball, if he had done that he would have headed it clear. However he had to stoop in the end and missed it and collided with Hernandez as a result.

He is liable to one of these mistakes a game, this time it cost a goal and the match, however as I say a far better performance over the 2 games than we have seen in the past. He was trying to move the ball forward and his passing wasn't to bad.

[MJG]

He could back off of course.
Would we blame him for doing that if it resulted in a goal against us?

its about decision making, something at his age he should be better at. Of course if he backed off we would want him to be tighter. But there is being tight to a player and being so close that you can't move, he tends to go for the latter.

Im not being critical of him for the sake of it. Im not anti Senderos at all. But there are aspects of his (just like any player) game that I don't like and I don't think at his age he's going to improve that type of decision making.
He does bring a better passing aspect to the defence, I remember one particular ball in the first half he played into space after spotting Dave's run.

[Rudolph]

He could back off of course.
Would we blame him for doing that if it resulted in a goal against us?

its about decision making, something at his age he should be better at. Of course if he backed off we would want him to be tighter. But there is being tight to a player and being so close that you can't move, he tends to go for the latter.

Im not being critical of him for the sake of it. Im not anti Senderos at all. But there are aspects of his (just like any player) game that I don't like and I don't think at his age he's going to improve that type of decision making.
He does bring a better passing aspect to the defence, I remember one particular ball in the first half he played into space after spotting Dave's run.

So who would you have in the side at centre half for the next game up if there are no injuries to deal with?