Merged threads: Appointment of Felix Magath

[alfie]

...Meulensteen was not afforded the time that his predecessor, who is the cause of all the current ills was given. Had RM been appointed earlier I believe he would have been the long term future of the club, I strongly believe that he will 'do' a Bobby Robson and make his fortunes elsewhere that will benefit another club and we will rue his leaving.

We all seem bemused that Rene started so well and then Curbishley and the crab were appointed and we consequently 'went off the boil', so why were they appointed rather than instead bringing in Magath as manager and RM coaching with the later intention of bringing RM in as manager having learned from Ferguson and Magath and for the long term good of Fulham FC..?

I watched that nice interview with Rene/Wilkins and something on here confuses me, it is quite clear that Rene knew wilkins  likes him and as Rene is reputed to be one of the best coaches around he quite clearly wants wilkins next to him, i am sure that he knows wilkins capability as a coach much more than any of us, all we remember is his time as manager, and that was a long time ago, things change he has had many years to learn his coaching and was very successfull at Chelsea, so really what i am asking is why do so many people dislike him and feel he is responsible for some of the way we play, and yet when Jol was here i was quite plainly put in my place when i was told that Jol was totally responsible for everything, so surely this must also apply to Rene, and for the record Rene great coach but don't feel he was/is strong enough to deal with the ins and outs of management.

[Denver Fulham]

Fact: Jol and Rene had the exact same record in their 13 Prem matches each.

Fact: We played nice football in Rene's first four matches and got three total points.

Fact: All of us knew we needed at least 7 and more likely 9 points from the matches over New Year's, and we got six, including a 1-4 at home to Sunderland

Fact: Our FA Cup loss was a travesty

Fact: We played our hearts out the last two matches, and got one point.

Fact: Fulham allowed 2 goals a match IN THE SECOND HALF under Rene

We can all think Rene was nice (seems so), promising as a manager (possibly), that Magath won't last more than a calendar year even if he saves us (possible), that Fulham could have handled this better (yes).

That doesn't change ...

Fact: Magath won the Bundesliga three times and has saved multiple clubs from relegation, which is a billion times more than what Rene has done as a manager.

We may end up in a weird spot next season, but this move gives us a better chance to survive, imo. (That's an opinion.)

[LillieBoy]

Magath has been appointed to cut the wage bill. He will achieve this with his method of fining players for misdemeanors.

And how much do you think it cost to employ him.

[YankeeJim]

He drinks tea at his pressers. I like it

I hope thats a White Mao Feng or a nice Camomile, Felix

alternatively...

....I didn't think they allowed photography at AA meetings.......

If he can drink beer like that, he's my kind of guy!   :beer:

[rusty shackleford]

Magath has been appointed to cut the wage bill. He will achieve this with his method of fining players for misdemeanors.

Senderos left for fear of bankruptcy

[twelli]

First of all Magath strikes me as very intelligent man, a football expert, a hard worker, a guy who acknowledges the greatness of others (not his own player while they are active...), a manager who is old school when it comes to training methods, but who is very modern in other areas (supports the introduction of goal line technology and is active on Facebook where he shares his thoughts from time to time in German).

His players usually hate him.

Theoretically, fans should like him, because he demands from his players that they are professionally and train hard to be in the best shape they can be and justify being paid so much more than the average people in the stands.

In Wolfsburg, a small-town club with a big budget (sponsored by Volkswagen), it worked well. The players hated him, alright, but, like one player explained in an interview, that collective hate brought the team close together and they did win the championship against all odds.

I think in Germany, his failure at Schalke, where he did a great job in the first year (Raul signed with them because of Magath and didn't regret it) but was on bad terms with the powerful fan organizations there, and the second time at Wolfsburg (where he made people scratch their heads because of excessive player trades), his reputation has somewhat suffered, so going to Fulham gives him a chance to start on a somewhat clean sheet again.

In order to make it work, he needs players who are committed to winning more than anything and who buy into his believes that you can only be successful if you are in good physical shape (which should go without saying, really). The problem is that there will always be disgruntled players, who warm the bench or a seat in the grand stands or, even worse, will have been called lazy by the manager. Those players might start influencing other and with the power players have these days, there is always the possibility that they start playing against the manager, so that he gets sacked.

I think Magath is very intelligent, but maybe he should start opening himself a bit more to his players. In Germany, there is a whole generation of younger coaches who are like big brothers to their players. Players like to play for them and that might work better in the long run than being a "dictator".

[MisfitKid]

I am gone for 2 days... What the hell just happened...  :58:

[the nutflush]

I am gone for 2 days... What the hell just happened...  :58:

Me too.  Just got back from a weekend away.  I feel like Ive been hit over the head.  I should have stayed away.  Wilsons Promontory...Squeaky Beach....paradise.  Then I come back to this cluster fcuk.

[Steeeeeeeeeed]

It's now 12 years since Magath arrived

February 2014 - September 2014.

Never forget.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Felix Wolfgang Magath, the nightmare your mother told you about.
The whole experience Scarred me for life. I am still having treatment with the Samaritans, and counselling at the local asylum for lost causes.
It was so traumatic and effected some more that others, that it went so far as to cause myself and 5 other sturdy supporters to prevent Blingo from jumping off Putney Bridge at high tide with a 50lb Dumbell strapped to each leg.

[legana]

Really hope that Tudor has the Magath effect on Spurs. Overworking them in training so they down tools. Still think they will sadly get out of it but hope they come away with a real humbling this weekend. We haven't had any landslide victories this year - generally games have been narrow victories or defeats. A big home win would be lovely and would set the tone for the Spurs players to start waving the white flag on their sinking ship.

[FFC007]

How the dictator Magath was selected by the board to be the new boss still boggles the mind today.

Twelve years later and he's still talked about!

I bet the hammy end bogs were a disgrace when he was conscripted!

[FFC007]

He drinks tea at his pressers. I like it

I hope thats a White Mao Feng or a nice Camomile, Felix

alternatively...

 

 

[FFC007]

Felix Wolfgang Magath, the nightmare your mother told you about.
The whole experience Scarred me for life. I am still having treatment with the Samaritans, and counselling at the local asylum for lost causes.
It was so traumatic and effected some more that others, that it went so far as to cause myself and 5 other sturdy supporters to prevent Blingo from jumping off Putney Bridge at high tide with a 50lb Dumbell strapped to each leg.

He was appalling. Surprised he didn't hire a cheesemonger into the physiotherapy department to lead the cheese healing muscle injury treatment programme ... 

[Neutral Zone Ultra]

Which psychopath bumped this thread to the top of FoF - gave me a heart attack for a second!

[FFC007]

Which psychopath bumped this thread to the top of FoF - gave me a heart attack for a second!

[blingo]

Havent eaten cheese since Mr Woolley stopped me from jumping off of le pont Putney

[RaySmith]

Is it really 12 years?We'd seemed established as a mid table Prem club, but things suddenly began to fall apart under Jol, and we  sank down the table, Jol left, and we had the chaos of several  different managers in a short space of time - panic had set in.

I remember going down to the Cottage for a must win game against Hull, and we were winning with our the French cb/fb's goal,cant remember his name, but Hull got a last minute equaliser.
Then I went  to Stoke, for another  last minute attempt to save ourselves, but we lost of course.

Then Magath threatened to take us down again, got rid of most experienced players and playing a team of youngsters, with Scott Parker as captain - I remember him paying the fine of two youngsters for being late, I think. Things were desperate until Kit Symons came in and  steadied the ship.

[FFC007]

Is it really 12 years?We'd seemed established as a mid table Prem club, but things suddenly began to fall apart under Jol, and we  sank down the table, Jol left, and we had the chaos of several  different managers in a short space of time - panic had set in.

I remember going down to the Cottage for a must win game against Hull, and we were winning with our the French cb/fb's goal,cant remember his name, but Hull got a last minute equaliser.
Then I went  to Stoke, for another  last minute attempt to save ourselves, but we lost of course.

Then Magath threatened to take us down again, got rid of most experienced players and playing a team of youngsters, with Scott Parker as captain - I remember him paying the fine of two youngsters for being late, I think. Things were desperate until Kit Symons came in and  steadied the ship.

Magath thought he could steam roller the championship with youngsters who had barely kicked a ball before under his dictatorship.

We were bloody lucky we didn't get a double relegation that season after the carnage he left behind when he was booted out of office.

[sunburywhite]

He also ruined a few youngsters careers
Cameron Burgess springs to mind