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Best news this weekend - Magath vows to carry on

Started by Admin, May 04, 2014, 04:47:03 PM

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Fulham's 14-year stay in the Barclays Premier League came to an end in crushing fashion at the Britannia Stadium, but manager Felix Magath is adamant he is the right man to lead the Cottagers back into the top flight.
Magath's future will inevitably come under close scrutiny after a 4-1 defeat to Stoke which confirmed the 60-year-old had failed in his mission to avoid the drop and in the process experienced the first relegation of his own storied nine-club career.
Magath made no excuses for the feeble manner of his side's demise, with goals from Peter Odemwingie, Marko Arnautovic, Oussama Assaidi and Jonathan Walters serving Stoke up the simplest of wins, with a late Kieran Richardson effort offering scant consolation.
But defiant Magath insisted: "I don't think to do anything else except stay at Fulham and build up a new team - that was the idea when I came here.
"It is clear we have to change something, I want to have success with Fulham in the next years. I will talk about the situation with the owner and we will start to come back."
Magath was damning in his verdict of his side's performance, accusing his players of lacking fighting spirit and being overwhelmed with nerves on such a big occasion.
"You saw no fighting spirit and therefore I think they felt too much pressure," added Magath. "I apologise for not managing the situation because I was convinced we would stay in the league but we are relegated."

RaySmith

If he stays - at least we will have much needed continuity.

May be he is the right man for the job - if he can build his own team, with Khan's backing.

NogoodBoyo

He's just like Ali Mac - a poor quality manager who compounded our problems by making one seriously bad decision after another. 
The whole organisation is in such poor shape we might as well take the opportunity of a complete change.  The one big challenge that needs to be met this time is that Khan does his research properly on the qualities of the club manager.  The last one that Ali Mac got right was Mark Hughes.  How ironic.
Nogood "Captain Panics, isit" Boyo


Denver Fulham

It's nice that Magath wants to stay, but unless our management team is utterly inept (hold your comments), there's no way he's the best candidate to take us forward and build a Championship side.

KP_FFC

i think he'll be good for us

and he's a well known manager and will help bring some well needed quality to our club despite us being in the championship

alfie

Quote from: NogoodBoyo on May 04, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
He's just like Ali Mac - a poor quality manager who compounded our problems by making one seriously bad decision after another. 
The whole organisation is in such poor shape we might as well take the opportunity of a complete change.  The one big challenge that needs to be met this time is that Khan does his research properly on the qualities of the club manager.  The last one that Ali Mac got right was Mark Hughes.  How ironic.
Nogood "Captain Panics, isit" Boyo


Wrong in my opion how can a made that has won the German league 3 times, saved 3 clubs from sure relegation be considered a poor quality manager, he just came to us too late, had to work with the poor performing players, and yes he has made 1 or 2 odd decisions (Burn yesterday), but i guess he was just trying something different and it did not pay off. I think in the long run and given the support he needs he wikll succeed
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Sadly she wasn't


davew

I think it is almost the worst news this weekend, not quite as bad as relegation being confirmed. While I blame the players for the lack of effort and desire to play for FFC this season, I might excuse them a little if like me they have no faith in the manager. Following team change after team change culminating in players being asked to play out of position, the final straw being Burn yesterday and the inability to select a team that might actually win a game and not concede so many stupid goals. If I were 1 of the players especially the Captain I would question Magaths integrity in team selection. I hope that in the near future that there are statements by some of the players regarding what they think of Magaths management skills.  
Grandson of a Former Director of FFC (served 1954 - 1968)

davew

Quote from: RaySmith on May 04, 2014, 04:50:37 PM
If he stays - at least we will have much needed continuity.

May be he is the right man for the job - if he can build his own team, with Khan's backing.
Perhaps he will bring in a squad of 25 German players, at least they will all be able to communicate(lol).
Grandson of a Former Director of FFC (served 1954 - 1968)

Admin

Quote from: Denver Fulham on May 04, 2014, 05:06:10 PM
It's nice that Magath wants to stay, but unless our management team is utterly inept (hold your comments), there's no way he's the best candidate to take us forward and build a Championship side.

I think you'll find it's our new owners that are utterly inept when facing this current season like they did. I hope (and I serverly hope) that they've learned their lesson now and will back Magath and his management team.


Denver Fulham

Jol: 10 points in 13 matches and everyone wanted him gone long before that

Rene: 10 pointd in 13 matches and was unceremoniously dumped

Magath: 11 points in 11 matches and you want him back, after three weeks of baffling awfulness with safety within grasp?

Admin

Quote from: alfie on May 04, 2014, 05:11:15 PM
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on May 04, 2014, 05:01:08 PM
He's just like Ali Mac - a poor quality manager who compounded our problems by making one seriously bad decision after another. 
The whole organisation is in such poor shape we might as well take the opportunity of a complete change.  The one big challenge that needs to be met this time is that Khan does his research properly on the qualities of the club manager.  The last one that Ali Mac got right was Mark Hughes.  How ironic.
Nogood "Captain Panics, isit" Boyo


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Wrong in my opion how can a made that has won the German league 3 times, saved 3 clubs from sure relegation be considered a poor quality manager, he just came to us too late, had to work with the poor performing players, and yes he has made 1 or 2 odd decisions (Burn yesterday), but i guess he was just trying something different and it did not pay off. I think in the long run and given the support he needs he wikll succeed


SouthfieldWhite

Magath OUT,
He is clueless and he will ruin us and ruin our youngsters, get rid now


MJG

Quote from: SouthfieldWhite on May 04, 2014, 06:05:33 PM
Magath OUT,
He is clueless and he will ruin us and ruin our youngsters, get rid now
can't tell of your joking SW? Your usually very reasoned in your posts and surprised at this one.

Putney

Putting aside the bizarre player selections, Magath clearly does not like the squad. He's a good manager as proven by his past record and I'd be happy to see what he can do given a couple of transfer windows where he can bring in his players. The most important thing is for the club to sit down with him and draw up a plan for next season asap.

terryr

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Quote from: Putney on May 04, 2014, 06:14:15 PM
Putting aside the bizarre player selections, Magath clearly does not like the squad. He's a good manager as proven by his past record and I'd be happy to see what he can do given a couple of transfer windows where he can bring in his players. The most important thing is for the club to sit down with him and draw up a plan for next season asap.

Its a very poor squad.
When we rely on under 21s to give a spark, the situation is dire.
He has had no choice regarding any of these players.
Rene's sum total contribution was to bring youngsters who have a bad reputation as malcontents.
No one puts their hand up for the Mitro signing.
Lets see what Felix can do because up to now he has had to deal with a team that fades to black after 65 minutes.
No one could manage that.


Lighthouse

There was never any doubt he would stay. When he joined he knew there was a squad to rebuild.

But he will be gone soon enough if we are struggling. There is such a big job to do after years of neglect because of Al wishing to sell the club. It depends how much money our owner wants to give for transfer fees and wages or how much he is allowed to.

So we have a new manager with no experience at all of life in this division or the type of football needed. We have a CEO who has taken compliments from the new owner but has failed in actually doing anything except nobody knows what he actually does. That seems to be the only argument fans have to support him. We have a playing staff of old players and a few kids.

I am sure there are going to be the usual fans who blame those of us whom predicted this demise since Hughes left and call us negative. But we aren't the ones crying because we predicted it. What we don't want is to predict a further slide because we still don't have the right people making the right decisions.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

WhiteJC

if not Felix who? Colin? Magath has proved himself in Germany, taking a 2nd rate team and winning the league, if he can do that in Germany why can't he do that with Fulham? If he stays with us then next season will be how we will judge him

St Eve

Wrong decision. His team selection and positioning is just bizarre. He has zero experience in English football. He is not well liked so attracting players will be difficult. His so called strong point is his vigorous training technique yet our entire team look knackered after 60 minutes


ScalleysDad

Quote from: Lighthouse on May 04, 2014, 08:14:53 PM
There was never any doubt he would stay. When he joined he knew there was a squad to rebuild.

But he will be gone soon enough if we are struggling. There is such a big job to do after years of neglect because of Al wishing to sell the club. It depends how much money our owner wants to give for transfer fees and wages or how much he is allowed to.

So we have a new manager with no experience at all of life in this division or the type of football needed. We have a CEO who has taken compliments from the new owner but has failed in actually doing anything except nobody knows what he actually does. That seems to be the only argument fans have to support him. We have a playing staff of old players and a few kids.

I am sure there are going to be the usual fans who blame those of us whom predicted this demise since Hughes left and call us negative. But we aren't the ones crying because we predicted it. What we don't want is to predict a further slide because we still don't have the right people making the right decisions.



I think I agree. Whatever has been said about the squad has to be matched against failing to create a 'team', perplexing tactics, some very peculiar formations with key players out of position, down right weird substitutions and as head coach some explaining to do as to why many players still cannot shoot, pass, cross or take a legal throw in. I'll take the point about players having to rethink things and game time cures everything but the absolute basics will always be ............... well the absolute basics. For me the constant line that he spun about survival being everything and then dishing up negative tactics and not resolving our obvious weaknesses  means he is not the man. What concerns me more is the very, very short list of Championship experienced managers who could take on 'the project', build the cohesion and then take it into The Prem. The last thing we need is another conveyor belt of managers. Damn I can't think of anybody unless we go in house now and nurture that selection. If he makes nine changes for the palace game and posts them well in advance I might just soften to him.  

Jem

Well Admin, Bateman would not agree with you. That alone makes me think you are probably right. Lets hope so.
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