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NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« on: October 12, 2014, 02:38:19 PM »
Now I'm just a mediocre guitarist -- not nearly good enough to be bad, but there are musicians who make great music by playing in a manner that purists would consider bad. So, without further ado,

Best Bad Guitar Player: B.B. King. He can't play a chord to save his life, and he can't play and sing at the same time [Jeff Beck used to share that trait as well], but my oh my the music he makes

Best Bad Overall: Neil Young. He's in the top 10 of best bad guitarist, vocalist and Mississippi Saxophonist

Anyone else?

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2014, 02:44:44 PM »
Seasick Steve.

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #2 on: October 12, 2014, 03:11:59 PM »
Neil Young and BB King as "bad guitarists"?  HD, sit down, eat a sandwich, and get your blood sugar back up.  Jesus, man!


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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #3 on: October 12, 2014, 05:05:00 PM »
Neil Young and BB King as "bad guitarists"?  HD, sit down, eat a sandwich, and get your blood sugar back up.  Jesus, man!
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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #4 on: October 12, 2014, 06:12:50 PM »
He only said that purists would say they were 'bad', but they are actually great.

Neil Young probably breaks all the rules about someone might think would make a successful rock act-just his voice for a start.

But his uniqueness is his strength- he wears his heart on his sleeve and follows his own course, but is deservedly enduringly popular, with so many brilliant  recordings and performances.

This is a personal favourite.
http://youtu.be/c93-UdPz1BI

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #5 on: October 12, 2014, 08:27:58 PM »
Well, there's always Status Quo (to pick on)
I here there new album is called......In Search of the Fourth Chord, :dead horse:


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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #6 on: October 12, 2014, 08:43:02 PM »
He only said that purists would say they were 'bad', but they are actually great.

Neil Young probably breaks all the rules about someone might think would make a successful rock act-just his voice for a start.

But his uniqueness is his strength- he wears his heart on his sleeve and follows his own course, but is deservedly enduringly popular, with so many brilliant  recordings and performances.

This is a personal favourite.
http://youtu.be/c93-UdPz1BI

Thanks for paying attention and reading the entire OP. FYI, your personal favorite is a perfect example as is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1v_7T6p8U




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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #7 on: October 12, 2014, 09:03:10 PM »
He only said that purists would say they were 'bad', but they are actually great.

Neil Young probably breaks all the rules about someone might think would make a successful rock act-just his voice for a start.

But his uniqueness is his strength- he wears his heart on his sleeve and follows his own course, but is deservedly enduringly popular, with so many brilliant  recordings and performances.

This is a personal favourite.
http://youtu.be/c93-UdPz1BI

Thanks for paying attention and reading the entire OP. FYI, your personal favorite is a perfect example as is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1v_7T6p8U





Now that I've read the whole thread :dft001: I can honestly say Quo are not my favorite 3chords......sorry Band

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2014, 08:27:51 AM »
Great "bad" singers: Johnny Rotten, Bob Dylan, Astrud Gilberto, Jimi Hendrix
Great "bad" guitarists: Kurt Cobain, Neil Young
Great "bad" drummers: Ringo Starr, Keith Moon
Great "bad" keyboards: Gary Numan


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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2014, 09:02:05 AM »

The most laughably bad musician who made and sold a lot of records throughout a lengthy career was a guy called Jenks "Tex" Carmen.

There's an hours worth of his stuff on YouTube with him "backed" by truly great guitarists like Merle Travis and Joe Maphis.

There was though something strangely likeable about Tex.

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2014, 09:57:47 AM »
Talking about bad musicians, those of you like me who fit the Old Sod category will surely remember the singing of Johnnie Ray, who came over from the States in the 'fifties and sang so badly (to the background of young girls screaming), it was unbelievable. There was a story that he was profoundly deaf, which would have explained it, but he wore a corded hearing aid sometimes in one ear and sometimes in the other, which was strange, and suggested the story was only to cover his performances......

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2014, 10:49:45 AM »
Best worst guitarist - Joe Strummer.
Greatest musical genius - Joe Strummer.


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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2014, 01:11:01 PM »
He only said that purists would say they were 'bad', but they are actually great.

Neil Young probably breaks all the rules about someone might think would make a successful rock act-just his voice for a start.

But his uniqueness is his strength- he wears his heart on his sleeve and follows his own course, but is deservedly enduringly popular, with so many brilliant  recordings and performances.

This is a personal favourite.
http://youtu.be/c93-UdPz1BI

Thanks for paying attention and reading the entire OP. FYI, your personal favorite is a perfect example as is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1v_7T6p8U





Now that I've read the whole thread :dft001: I can honestly say Quo are not my favorite 3chords......sorry Band
I have met rick parfitt and they find this 3 chord business quite funny, they are actually very good muscians especially with their early stuff

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2014, 04:07:45 PM »
Worst whistle player - the geezer in Lieutenant Pigeon
Worst singer - the geezer in Lieutenant Pigeon
Worst pianist -  Granny in Lieutenant Pigeon (maybe she can play in real life)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5GWJJP3FM

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2014, 07:11:06 PM »
Chris Rea, in his early days, couldn't sing and play the guitar at the same time

Les Dawson "playing" the piano  064.gif

Lee Marvin "singing" in Paint Your Wagon



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« Reply #15 on: October 13, 2014, 09:12:43 PM »
I love some of William Shatners stuff, he is unique. His rendition of  'Common people' is great.

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #16 on: October 13, 2014, 11:52:38 PM »
He only said that purists would say they were 'bad', but they are actually great.

Neil Young probably breaks all the rules about someone might think would make a successful rock act-just his voice for a start.

But his uniqueness is his strength- he wears his heart on his sleeve and follows his own course, but is deservedly enduringly popular, with so many brilliant  recordings and performances.

This is a personal favourite.
http://youtu.be/c93-UdPz1BI

Thanks for paying attention and reading the entire OP. FYI, your personal favorite is a perfect example as is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O1v_7T6p8U




I think I was responding to a plain reading of the O.P.  The assertion was: Purists would maintain Neil and B.B. are "bad" guitarists.  I can't find any corroboration for that assessment.  Rather, the music and guitar afficianado publications have always held otherwise.  That is, there is a uniform belief amongst devotees and music journalists and other "purists" that these two were among the best at their craft in the world.  I can recount many awards that Neil has won in annual Critics' awards issues in such magazines as Rolling Stone ("Best Guitarist").  As a huge fan, I tend to read any and all articles in pubs I can get my hands on about his music, reviews, acclaims, awards.  I still find it amazing how he has re-invented himself over and over again, and then melding genres as he goes along.  A folkie; then an early rock and roller playing lead in a succession of bands; then folk rock, country rock, straight country, then invented a jazz rock style his own (This Note's for You), then invented what we call Grunge today, and so on.  His novel proved there is a fine mind behind all the decades of chasing his muse.  Quite an extraordinary mind at that.  Just out or curiosity, I ran a quick Yahoo! search for Neil Young Guitarist and this popped up:



Neil Young - 100 Greatest Guitarists: David Fricke's Picks ...
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The haunting, delicate clarity of Young's acoustic playing should not be underestimated. But it's on electric that he has staked his claim to
Neil Young - 100 Greatest Guitarists | Rolling Stone
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If I was ever going to teach a master class to young guitarists, the first thing I would play them is the first minute of Neil Young's original "Down by the River" solo.

What I especially love about his concerts is how he re-imagines his standards, masterfully improvising his way through a number of them.  For instance, his live performances of "Like a Hurricane" are astonishingly different from each other.  You can hear the notes imitate the wind blowing his emotions around.  I want to love you, but I'm getting blown aaawwaayy.  With distortion and feedback and note bending, you can picture a hurricane building and then subsiding.  Masterful stuff.  I heard Neil once at Pine Knob amphitheatre outside of Detroit insert a series of blues numbers into his program that were so good, so powerful, that you had to pinch yourself in disbelief.  An exceptional guitarist.

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« Reply #17 on: October 14, 2014, 11:05:30 AM »
I love some of William Shatners stuff, he is unique. His rendition of  'Common people' is great.

I met him last week.

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Re: NFR -- Great "Bad" Musicians
« Reply #18 on: October 14, 2014, 03:22:53 PM »
Worst whistle player - the geezer in Lieutenant Pigeon
Worst singer - the geezer in Lieutenant Pigeon
Worst pianist -  Granny in Lieutenant Pigeon (maybe she can play in real life)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO5GWJJP3FM

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Best typewriter player  !!!!!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZCh4EY_kug

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« Reply #19 on: October 14, 2014, 10:52:28 PM »
I love some of William Shatners stuff, he is unique. His rendition of  'Common people' is great.

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