NFR Arsene Wenger confronted by fan during Arsenal defeat

[Andy S]

You really do have to worry when things like this happen. It hasn't been an even playing field for many years buy there are people out there who expect Arsenal to win every game. There are people on this site who think the same way be it in a lower league. Of course money talks but fans have no right to demand success!

[Blanco]

Arsenal fans are fickle. Most fans of the top clubs are. Few weeks ago they hated Wenger. Then they won a game or two and they are singing his name again. Now they want him sacked. To be fair most football fans are like this.

[Berserker]

Yep

[Lighthouse]

Arsenal have underperformed for many years. They should want to be a top three side but are well behind being consistent. Yes being confronted by a fan is silly but the money tickets cost now. Fans feel they have a financial stake in the side they follow.

As for Fulham fans wanting to win every game. Well we too have underperformed because we sold all our players and relied on kids and overseas players with no experience in this league. So poor, stupid management has meant we are struggling.

The fans have plenty of chances to vent their frustration. Confronting managers is clearly wrong.

[FPT]

Society is at a stage where everything is quick, everything is on-demand, everything can be changed with the click of a button; and that's where the impatience, fickleness and lust for swift transformation comes from.

I find it frustrating to listen to the fickleness of supporters, but it's what society is.

[Logicalman]

Society is at a stage where everything is quick, everything is on-demand, everything can be changed with the click of a button; and that's where the impatience, fickleness and lust for swift transformation comes from.

I find it frustrating to listen to the fickleness of supporters, but it's what society is.

Not all of society. Some of us who were here before the click-of-the-button generation and suffered the last drop from the top were not expecting anything like a rise back up this season - and still don't!!

In either case, it was a futile demonstration by a passionate fan who will now lose the right to see his team live again for many a year unfortunately.

[HatterDon]

Arsenal have underperformed for many years.

How true. How many consecutive years have they underperformed themselves into the Champions League? PLUS they haven't won the FA cup in SEVEN MONTHS!!!!!!!!  092.gif

[Twig]

Arsenal have underperformed for many years.

How true. How many consecutive years have they underperformed themselves into the Champions League? PLUS they haven't won the FA cup in SEVEN MONTHS!!!!!!!!  092.gif

Haha you beat me to it, my thoughts exactly.  Wish Fulham were similar "underperformers".

[Egham White]

Talking of underperformers , nice to see Chelsea underperform yesterday, except Moaninho who performed just as normal  :031:

[Berserker]

Yes Chelsea's performance made my day yesterdsy ha ha ha

[Snibbo]

I went to an Arsenal match at the Emirates a few years ago. Never heard so much moaning from a bunch of home fans. And people getting up to buy a burger during the match. What an atmosphereless dump. I used to like Highbury though - proper ground.

[RaySmith]

They've always been an arrogant bunch -the 'aristocrats' of football- even at Highbury with the 'marble halls' and the bust of Herbert Chapman -but agree  Highbury was a proper football ground compared to the Emirates, and I have nostalgic memories of it, with that big clock at one end.

I remember going there to see Man U play, and many other games, and like all grounds, you just paid- small amount - at the turnstile-to get in, and now there is a waiting list for season tickets.

In nostalgic mood, I was just thinking with the recent death of Spurs'  Ron Henry - of going to see the Spurs  double winning team, including him, at Fulham. No crowd restrictions , and you paid at the turnstile, but in the Cottage we were packed in like sardines, you could hardly breathe - I think it was nearly 30,000 that day.

[Lighthouse]

Arsenal have underperformed for many years.

How true. How many consecutive years have they underperformed themselves into the Champions League? PLUS they haven't won the FA cup in SEVEN MONTHS!!!!!!!!  092.gif

Yes but that may be all very clever. But they haven't won anything and the FA Cup is not considered the mayor prize it once was. So if you are considered amongst the top teams in the Country and are happy to qualify for Champions League but go no further and all you have is an FA Cup to show for it. It is under performing.

Qualifying for the Champions League for Arsenal is like Fulham winning any cup match. It is good but we all expect to go further.

[JHaynes Paperboy]

They've always been an arrogant bunch -the 'aristocrats' of football- even at Highbury with the 'marble halls' and the bust of Herbert Chapman -but agree  Highbury was a proper football ground compared to the Emirates, and I have nostalgic memories of it, with that big clock at one end.

I remember going there to see Man U play, and many other games, and like all grounds, you just paid- small amount - at the turnstile-to get in, and now there is a waiting list for season tickets.

In nostalgic mood, I was just thinking with the recent death of Spurs'  Ron Henry - of going to see the Spurs  double winning team, including him, at Fulham. No crowd restrictions , and you paid at the turnstile, but in the Cottage we were packed in like sardines, you could hardly breathe - I think it was nearly 30,000 that day.

Just looked it up Ray, 38,000  We got a 0-0 draw after losing 5-1 at WHL on Nov. 5th 56,210

[K33NY]

Wasnt that long ago some of our own fans went to a certain player at the car lot and bullied a certain player. There will allways be these kinds of people, unfortunately...

[JHaynes Paperboy]

Wasnt that long ago some of our own fans went to a certain player at the car lot and bullied a certain player. There will allways be these kinds of people, unfortunately...

I bet it was'nt Horsfield !

[Twig]

Arsenal have underperformed for many years.

How true. How many consecutive years have they underperformed themselves into the Champions League? PLUS they haven't won the FA cup in SEVEN MONTHS!!!!!!!!  092.gif

Yes but that may be all very clever. But they haven't won anything and the FA Cup is not considered the mayor prize it once was. So if you are considered amongst the top teams in the Country and are happy to qualify for Champions League but go no further and all you have is an FA Cup to show for it. It is under performing.

Qualifying for the Champions League for Arsenal is like Fulham winning any cup match. It is good but we all expect to go further.

Qualify but go no further?  Qualified for the Champions League every year since 2000-01; 1 x Runners up, 1 SF, 4 QF, 6 R16.  That is not bad for a team of "underperformers" who qualify but go no further.

[alfie]

I went to an Arsenal match at the Emirates a few years ago. Never heard so much moaning from a bunch of home fans. And people getting up to buy a burger during the match. What an atmosphereless dump. I used to like Highbury though - proper ground.

I guess if you go to home games you don't notice the hundreds that leave their seats 5/10 mins before half time, I sit at the end of my row in Hammersmith and I am up and down up and down.

I like the Emirates, I do not have any issues with it, and what exactly is a "proper ground", once upon a time it was just a patch of grass with white lines around it, was that a proper ground?

[Lighthouse]

Arsenal have always been considered in that elite group. They spend big but not in the same way Chelscum and City have. But still do pretty well. The reason their supporters feel they have underachieved is they have won very little compared to the others. Man Utd and Liverpool are the other elites in the Prem.

It is no good qualifying for the Champions League sitting back and saying that is as good as it is going to get. However many ways you say it, Arsenal have underachieved for the elite club in the Prem. Which is why Wenger is criticised by many Arsenal fans.

For a club Fulham's size this may well be a mystery. But if you are an Arsenal fan it does make sense.

[fulhamben]

Arsenal have always been considered in that elite group. They spend big but not in the same way Chelscum and City have. But still do pretty well. The reason their supporters feel they have underachieved is they have won very little compared to the others. Man Utd and Liverpool are the other elites in the Prem.

It is no good qualifying for the Champions League sitting back and saying that is as good as it is going to get. However many ways you say it, Arsenal have underachieved for the elite club in the Prem. Which is why Wenger is criticised by many Arsenal fans.

For a club Fulham's size this may well be a mystery. But if you are an Arsenal fan it does make sense.

thats without mentioning that there season tickets are the dearest in the prem. id want a little more if i were paying more than the rest