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The Official Next Manager Discussion Thread

Started by Rhys Lightning 63, November 07, 2015, 04:14:56 PM

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Riverside

Anyone know where his family is ? Did they stay in London ?

If so that is a very strong reason to move back to London .


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HamsterWheel

He left because the new Brentford approach was basically to pick the team using stats. A bit like Felix used to pick the team at Fulham based on who had won the cross country race on the Friday.

westcliff white

thought it was signings based on stats and thus those signings made the team so similar hamster to what you say.

Although he would of had no input on signings either
Every day is a Fulham day


HamsterWheel

From his twitter posts it looks like Warburton's family are still down Sarf "Great to spend time with the family. Another flight, another delay but good to be back in Glasgow and back to work tomorrow"

And I note he was in London a week ago "Quick trip South for pal's birthday lunch in C. London. I know he hates surprises!"

Twig

Quote from: Domino 1879 on November 30, 2015, 01:15:33 PM
I thought he left Brentford because he did not like the proposed management structure.  Think that involved the creation of a Director of Football and his role was to be coaching and team selection.

It was not directly to do with whether he would be manager or head coach, it was to do with the new owners preoccupation with employing statistical modelling techniques to inform decision making. Essentially a form of moneyball based management, incredibly popular in the NFL.  It is seen as especially pertinent to that sport due to the wage caps which mean that it is important to try to get an edge on the bucks you spend.  Warburton was not persuaded that stats are the way to make decisions on everything from; transfers to, team selection, training schedules, tactics etc. He felt that strict adherence to such tools disempowered the manager and downgraded his role.

westcliff white

i know why its used in Baseball and american football, but I also thought they said transfers were above and beyond the remit of the head coach role
Every day is a Fulham day


garyclashcityrocker

Warburton's departure was about statistical modelling. He was Director Of Football at Brentford prior to becoming manager. Whilst DOF he worked with Uwe Rosler and defended the DOF /Team Manager

"Warburton stated that the much-maligned Sporting Director/director of football position can work in English football, saying though he "would row every other day" with manager Uwe Rösler, the pair never fell out and Rösler had the final say on team selection and signings." Is a direct quote. So he is au fait and happy with that type of set-up.

Would've been my choice going back to the summer when he first left the Bee's, so I'd love for this to happen - but can't see it. I hope I'm wrong though.

Horsfield_No9

The only thing making me think this COULD be possible is that he's a Londoner and his personal Twitter suggests a lot of back and forth flights to see his family.

Nov 15th tweet "Great to spend time with the family. Another flight, another delay but good to be back in Glasgow and back to work tomorrow."

We could've easily got him in the Summer is the gutting thing. Here's hoping the small chance might come through. Great manager who has proved himself all the way from Sunday League management to taking Rangers top of the league. Impressive.
First game: Fulham 4 Burnley 0, December 12th 1998.

westcliff white

Quote from: garyclashcityrocker on November 30, 2015, 02:22:11 PM
Warburton's departure was about statistical modelling. He was Director Of Football at Brentford prior to becoming manager. Whilst DOF he worked with Uwe Rosler and defended the DOF /Team Manager

"Warburton stated that the much-maligned Sporting Director/director of football position can work in English football, saying though he "would row every other day" with manager Uwe Rösler, the pair never fell out and Rösler had the final say on team selection and signings." Is a direct quote. So he is au fait and happy with that type of set-up.

Would've been my choice going back to the summer when he first left the Bee's, so I'd love for this to happen - but can't see it. I hope I'm wrong though.
Yep he did say that I read it, but I do think the club were taking the signings away from the man in charge of the playing staff, which was another reason he left aside from the statistical background (which for me doesn't really translate into football)
Every day is a Fulham day


St. Andrews White

...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment
The Intertoto might not exist anymore, but that doesn't matter. We'll still win it again.

St. Andrews White

He would be excellent if we could somehow get him, but unfortunately this appears unlikely given what he's said about being committed to Rangers.
The Intertoto might not exist anymore, but that doesn't matter. We'll still win it again.

HillingdonFFC

Quote from: Burt on November 30, 2015, 01:35:59 PM
Just checked on one of the main Gers boards and there is nothing on this...


Course there isnt because theres nothing in it, would need a monumental U-turn following the speech he gave to a packed Rangers AGM on friday.
Hes not coming, we had our chance five months ago and dithered. Would love it to be true, wanted him all along but cant see it in a million years


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Ordar

Lol so Rowett hadn't had any contact, and now Warburton hasn't had any contact from us. If both are true and not smokescreens, then what exactly have we been doing.

And where have the rumours come from

Fulham76

Warburton would be my choice but just can't see it happening.


fulhamben

Quote from: Ordar on November 30, 2015, 03:02:45 PM
Lol so Rowett hadn't had any contact, and now Warburton hasn't had any contact from us. If both are true and not smokescreens, then what exactly have we been doing.

And where have the rumours come from
well Ali Mac and Rigg have had a right ole jolly in the dam. Maybe the rumours came from a conversation that was overheard in a certain cafe that started off with a discussion as to whether Han solo was an intagalatic drugs smuggler or not.
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.

Steven Ageroad

Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment

WHY??

Ordar

Ah Warburton is now odds on with a couple of the bookmakers, so clearly isn't gonna happen ;)


Chutney

Just saw a guy linking us with Shefki Kuqi.... what is going on?!
C O Y W

Barry White

Quote from: Yonderwhite on November 30, 2015, 02:39:40 PM
...Or maybe we're waiting for Maclaren to be sacked, as appears somewhat inevitable at the moment...?
He would be an excellent appointment

what are you basing that on?