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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2018/19

Started by Mince n Tatties, May 17, 2018, 05:58:05 PM

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mkras99

16:56
FULHAM MOVE LATE FOR BRYAN

Fulham have made a late move for Bristol City left-back Joe Bryan, according to Sky sources.

We understand the player has indicated to Aston Villa, where he was due to have a medical today, that he would prefer to play in the Premier League.

We reported on Monday that Bristol City had accepted a bid of £6m from Villa for Bryan - a standout performer in last year's Championship.

Lighthouse

Quote from: brightster on August 08, 2018, 09:57:42 PM
While all this is happening a left back we used to have has moved to the Midlands. Scott Malone to Derby.

Weird few years for him. Good luck with Derby but you can't help think that he may have been better off staying where he was at Fulham.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

I can stand my own despair but not others hope

Deeping_white

Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 09:58:57 PM
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Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:30:43 PM
Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English

He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.

Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience

At least another 10 years? Yes if you include at least 3 years as player-coach for Nuneaton.

In any case the point isn't how long we'll get out of him, it's how much will he improve?
He's probably about a year off his peak, if not there already.

Players peak in their late 20's so probably 3 years, and even so, look what a year with Joka did to Malone so take a better player and improve him in the prem and then sell him for a ludicrous fee owing to being English and get someone else in next year if we feel like it
The "look what Joka did to Malone" and "ludicrous fee owing to being English" points apply equally to Targett. For that matter it also applies to Scott Malone, who was probably available for about £3m.

If Bryan will be worth £18m in the near future then by the same logic, Targett will be worth £30m. For that reason I'd rather have Targett at £14m than Bryan (or Malone) even for half the price.

And that's coming from someone who doesn't really want Targett anyway.   

The fundamental difference between the two of them is that one of them is quick, and the other isn't, so purely based on athletic attributes being key in the premier league owing to every winger seemingly being f*cking rapid, I'd have Bryan every day of the week. Besides that £8m we save allows us to move on Mallo as well, and thus means we get two full backs rather than one which is a win win all round.


Nero

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:52:38 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2018, 09:50:40 PM
Pete O'Rourke (@SportsPeteO)
8/8/18, 4:36 PM
Joe Bryan has walked out on a move to Aston Villa and is set to join Fulham. #AVFC #FFC #BristolCity


All these years later, this is our Riise moment in reverse!!

Time to order your Joe "arne" Bryan  shirt

cheese pie

#4424
"Just when you think it is all going swimmingly, Fulham happen. Apparently the Londoners have made a late bid for an Aston Villa transfer target who as all but sealed the deal with the Villans. This could complicate things.

The signing of Joe Bryan by Aston Villa was confirmed via various media outlets not too long ago. It was widely expected that Bryan, a left-back for Bristol City, would sign for AVFC tonight following the transfer of Ørjan Nyland and John McGinn to the club, that's not exactly the case as is now understood.

Fulham, recently promoted to the Premier League as you'll no doubt know, have put in an offer for Bryan after he performed his medical at Aston Villa. You'd have to expect that a deal was almost signed as well. BristolLive are reporting that a move to Villa was agreed, in it's entirety.

Rumours that Steve Bruce and his gang are pelting down the motorway chasing down Bryan and his agent are currently coming to the fore, but these are unconfirmed, if not hilarious. This has happened a few times to Aston Villa, though - the motorway thing."

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mkras99

Quote from: mkras99 on August 08, 2018, 09:59:47 PM
From Alan Nixon on Twitter:

FULHAM. Have nicked Joe Bryan ... right enough ... astonishing story.

More from Nixon:

BRYAN. Had been at Villa for almost two days. Medical done. Waiting on results and signing. In come from Fulham from nowhere. There's always one mad one ... this is it.


Nero

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 09:58:57 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:47:11 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:30:43 PM
Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English

He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.

Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience

At least another 10 years? Yes if you include at least 3 years as player-coach for Nuneaton.

In any case the point isn't how long we'll get out of him, it's how much will he improve?
He's probably about a year off his peak, if not there already.

Players peak in their late 20's so probably 3 years, and even so, look what a year with Joka did to Malone so take a better player and improve him in the prem and then sell him for a ludicrous fee owing to being English and get someone else in next year if we feel like it
The "look what Joka did to Malone" and "ludicrous fee owing to being English" points apply equally to Targett. For that matter it also applies to Scott Malone, who was probably available for about £3m.

If Bryan will be worth £18m in the near future then by the same logic, Targett will be worth £30m. For that reason I'd rather have Targett at £14m than Bryan (or Malone) even for half the price.
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 10:06:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 09:58:57 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 09:22:26 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:47:11 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 08, 2018, 08:41:04 PM
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 08:30:43 PM
Bryan is definitely ready to play in the prem, he's a quicker version of Targett and at half the price is worth a shout for sure. Targett has barely played prem football so there's no way you can justify that price for him, at a reported £6M I think Bryan could be worth 3x as much after a decent season seeing as he's still young and English

He's 25 in a month. Not that young. And two years older than Targett. Not that I'm saying we should pay £14m for Targett. But given we've got Odoi and MLM in that position, if we want to gamble on youth, I'd rather it was someone about 19.

Bearing in mind he'll play for at least another 10 years, 24 all things considered for an English full back at £6m is a steal when you consider that Targett is double the price and barely has any more prem experience

At least another 10 years? Yes if you include at least 3 years as player-coach for Nuneaton.

In any case the point isn't how long we'll get out of him, it's how much will he improve?
He's probably about a year off his peak, if not there already.

Players peak in their late 20's so probably 3 years, and even so, look what a year with Joka did to Malone so take a better player and improve him in the prem and then sell him for a ludicrous fee owing to being English and get someone else in next year if we feel like it
The "look what Joka did to Malone" and "ludicrous fee owing to being English" points apply equally to Targett. For that matter it also applies to Scott Malone, who was probably available for about £3m.

If Bryan will be worth £18m in the near future then by the same logic, Targett will be worth £30m. For that reason I'd rather have Targett at £14m than Bryan (or Malone) even for half the price.

And that's coming from someone who doesn't really want Targett anyway.   

The fundamental difference between the two of them is that one of them is quick, and the other isn't, so purely based on athletic attributes being key in the premier league owing to every winger seemingly being f*cking rapid, I'd have Bryan every day of the week. Besides that £8m we save allows us to move on Mallo as well, and thus means we get two full backs rather than one which is a win win all round.
And that's coming from someone who doesn't really want Targett anyway.   
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The fundamental difference between the two of them is that one of them is quick, and the other isn't, so purely based on athletic attributes being key in the premier league owing to every winger seemingly being f*cking rapid, I'd have Bryan every day of the week. Besides that £8m we save allows us to move on Mallo as well, and thus means we get two full backs rather than one which is a win win all round.

That and Targett will only increase in value if Southampton play him if not it's another year towards the end of his contract and value decrease. We might be ae to pick him up next year cheaper

Milo


Rambler

#4428
What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?

I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.


Steven Ageroad

Didn't they do this to us many years ago. I can't remember the players name, it's an age thing on my part, but wasn't he photographed with a Fulham shirt with his name on then 5 minutes later he had signed for Villa.
What goes around comes around, or something like that.

OMalleyCat

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spikey norman

#4431
Quote from: Rambler on August 08, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?

I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.
Bryan played against Man City and Utd last season  and played really well against both and even scored against Utd so don't have too many worries he won't cope unlike some of the the others we have been linked with.
He will only improve under SJ


Deeping_white

Quote from: Rambler on August 08, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?

I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.

Bryan I think will make the step up. He's been one of, if not the best Championship LB over the past few seasons so it's time he got his chance in the PL, plus he's an attacking full back so fit our system. I refer you to his performance against Man Utd this season in the League Cup to show what he's capable of. Besides he was part of a defence that blunted our attack 3/4 times we played Bristol since Joka coached us so that says something in itself

fulhamben

Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
Didn't they do this to us many years ago. I can't remember the players name, it's an age thing on my part, but wasn't he photographed with a Fulham shirt with his name on then 5 minutes later he had signed for Villa.
What goes around comes around, or something like that.
claudio reyna, and he joined city
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.

FFC1987

Honestly don't know what to make of Bryan. Did anyone really look at him and say 'easily EPL quality'? I must admit, I thought that about Targett but don't recall thinking that of Bryan. Not dissing him or anything, it's more of a situation where I just havent watched/seen him enough.


Bryanthebroom

#4435
Quote from: Deeping_white on August 08, 2018, 10:27:02 PM
Quote from: Rambler on August 08, 2018, 10:19:07 PM
What do we think about Bryan? Can he handle the step up?

I would argue the full back position is one of the toughest. You come up against some of the most skillfull players in the world and yet we seemingly have Christie and now potentially Bryan as our players to combat this.
Both championship players & untested in the PL.

Bryan I think will make the step up. He's been one of, if not the best Championship LB over the past few seasons so it's time he got his chance in the PL, plus he's an attacking full back so fit our system. I refer you to his performance against Man Utd this season in the League Cup to show what he's capable of. Besides he was part of a defence that blunted our attack 3/4 times we played Bristol since Joka coached us so that says something in itself

His stats look good on whoscored.com - especially his defensive contributions, which I was pretty surprised about. He's always been more of an attacking player in my eyes.

Edit: Looking at their stats from last year, they're both pretty similar. Bryan may just have the edge defensively. Offensively, Bryan has completed far more successful dribbles whereas Matt has a better passing accuracy and puts in more crosses.

grandad

When ever Bryan played against us he was superb. As much as I would have wanted Targett I would be over the Moon with Bryan. Saves us a few bob for a couple more signings tomorrow.
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ffc73

Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 08, 2018, 10:20:06 PM
Didn't they do this to us many years ago. I can't remember the players name, it's an age thing on my part, but wasn't he photographed with a Fulham shirt with his name on then 5 minutes later he had signed for Villa.
What goes around comes around, or something like that.

Was that not Reyna going to Citeh?

Yep Ben, thanks


Jeroen

Quote from: Milo on August 08, 2018, 10:16:55 PM
Surely a back up?

Beginning of this transfer window I would have been over the moon - now it's underwhelmed.....
A sign of how far we have come! C'mon you whites!!
Surely a good signing, better than £15m on Matt Targett!

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