Schürrle

[bornafulhamfan]

Should he be a starter? He's got moments of brilliance in which he scores wondergoals and probably has best crossing ability in the squad(Sess and Bryan are the only ones who are arguable). On the other hand, he is very slow and doesn't always help the defense. What is your opinion?

[fulhamben]

Not for me. Yes he pops up with the odd beauty, but that pretty much all he offers. Problem is now that ak has been dropped, he is really the only option. Although some might say vietto. What we really need is some clever scientist to splice the genes of schurrle and vietto together to make a super player.

[rusty shackleford]

There was a lot of "wheres the haters now?!" Ballocks aftee he scored today but really, what else does he do other than crop up with the odd wonder goal?

[Plodder]

<<What else does he do other than crop up with the odd wonder goal?>>

Reminds me of Life of Brian.  "Apart from scoring six goals in twenty games (and not playing 90 minutes for most of them) - what has Schurrle ever done for us?"

Like many of our players, what starts as legitimate criticism soon becomes excessive and unjustified. He could work harder in defence. He could improve his tackling. But all players have aspects of their game they need to work on. Take two of our best - Ryan's finishing this season has been atrocious; Mitro has spurned some good chances and could improve his mobility and stamina. But we rightly keep them in the team for what they do well, and no one castigates Ryan for his missed chances and suggests he is a bad player. Given where we are, I would put Schurrle in the first eleven from now on, simply because we need something different (in the form of wonder goals) if we are (improbably) to gather enough points in the remaining 16 games to stay up.

I would be happy if some of our other players contributed the occasional wonder goal.

[itombomb]

He's not that slow, his problem is that he has no stamina, so doesn't have the engine to get up and down and do the defensive work necessary (and even then he's completely gassed after 50/60 minutes.

I think he is the archetypal luxury player, but we don't have a side/system that can currently cover for his deficiencies.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Has Schurrie ever played a full 90 mins ?

[BernieBoy]

I actually think he gets more criticism than he should, we are Fulham Football Club, not Real Madrid... perspective people. He is a World Cup Winner, won the League with Chelsea - I'd say we are lucky to have him. He's our second top scorer behind Mitro and he's played a lot less minutes!

Get behind the team or you will get your wish and he won't be here next season, as we will be in the Championship and he will be back in the German top flight!

[DevonFFC]

I actually think he gets more criticism than he should, we are Fulham Football Club, not Real Madrid... perspective people. He is a World Cup Winner, won the League with Chelsea - I'd say we are lucky to have him. He's our second top scorer behind Mitro and he's played a lot less minutes!

Get behind the team or you will get your wish and he won't be here next season, as we will be in the Championship and he will be back in the German top flight!

He is a winger/forward - in most teams the defensive work they have to do is limited but with us he is required to do more defending than he is attacking.

That is why I feel if we got in new wing backs that were wing backs they would provide the level of defensive cover needed to leave our forwards to do their jobs.

Unfortunately for Schurle and the rest of the new players, they were not here last season so everything sees them as the issue

[nose returns]

schurle is what he has always been. a player that is gifted and drifts in and out of games. i thought he did ok yesterday and woked hard, er has to decide is he sticking with him or not. on key to survival would be a settled team. we are no more settled now that before.

[davew]

Has Schurrie ever played a full 90 mins ?

When he was younger, a lot younger!

[Bassey the warrior]

I think he tries he hardest and has real quality but he is very slow. Kebano looked decent when he came on.

[One Martin Thomas]

He put a decent shift in yesterday.

[toshes mate]

It's very easy to find scapegoats when teams are not playing well together as a unit, and, however you do it, it really doesn't prove to be a way forward.  Yesterday 'we scored' three goals without a reply on target from our opponents and yet we lost the game.  Schurrle played as he has done all season trying to be whatever it is the 'gaffer' wants him to be in this side.  He is not alone in struggling at times and I agree that describing him as a 'luxury' in this particular side is not unfair.  The problem is that the 'gaffer' still doesn't know his best side, his best formation or his best options, and that remains the conundrum of the whole season because we have 'best fit players' rather than 'ideal type of' players in far too many positions for comfort.  Ranieri alone is not the answer, and perhaps alongside better players we also need to strengthen coaching options, especially defensively where the players just do not look well drilled.

And the outcome of that conundrum is our best fit side is nowhere near good enough to stay in this league.  It wasn't at the start of the season, and it isn't going to be unless and until we sign 'ideal type of' players to the key positions that have been lacking for the duration.  Recruitment is the problem as it has been since the Khans arrived.  That they can hit just one window wonderfully well out of umpteen attempts just isn't good enough, IMO.   One player could make all the difference to this side if chosen wisely, and two or three similar signings would start to have us believing in miracles again.

[The Rational Fan]

A better right wing back would make a massive difference to how good every player on the field is looking, especially Schullre. I like Cyrus Christie, but he is only an EPL second Xi player.

[filham]

I said it on another thread but I am going to say it again.
That goal yesterday was pure class and will probably end up as our goal of the season.

[HV71]

Three times this season he has scored the opening goal away from home. Two of them were of the highest quality and the third required vision and a cool head . This guy has class. Whilst I realise that 'if' is probably the biggest word in football- but if our team could have held on to those leads we would now be 8 points better off and in a decent position. Given that two of the games were against Cardiff and Burnley then the impact of these 'wins ' would be very dramatic.
Good player in the wrong team which is sad

[General]

Two players scored own goals yesterday, our defence is the leakiest I think I've ever seen it and we have players we've paid £30 million sitting on the bench, not giving their all and you single out the player who scored for us and who has scored multiple goals for us this season (in a relegation threatened side where it's even more important) and can create something out of nothing and has class to find that extra yard and you single him out for criticism?

Beggars belief some on this board. I simply don't get it. I appreciate you may get frustrated because you think he could offer more because he's clearly talented, but out of what we've got singling him out at times like this seems extremely odd... especially as he's producing goods and is on a two year loan deal.

[General]

Three times this season he has scored the opening goal away from home. Two of them were of the highest quality and the third required vision and a cool head . This guy has class. Whilst I realise that 'if' is probably the biggest word in football- but if our team could have held on to those leads we would now be 8 points better off and in a decent position. Given that two of the games were against Cardiff and Burnley then the impact of these 'wins ' would be very dramatic.
Good player in the wrong team which is sad

Well said.

[@jolslover]

Two players scored own goals yesterday, our defence is the leakiest I think I've ever seen it and we have players we've paid £30 million sitting on the bench, not giving their all and you single out the player who scored for us and who has scored multiple goals for us this season (in a relegation threatened side where it's even more important) and can create something out of nothing and has class to find that extra yard and you single him out for criticism?

Beggars belief some on this board. I simply don't get it. I appreciate you may get frustrated because you think he could offer more because he's clearly talented, but out of what we've got singling him out at times like this seems extremely odd... especially as he's producing goods and is on a two year loan deal.

Agree

[Ara's bacon crisps]

Three times this season he has scored the opening goal away from home. Two of them were of the highest quality and the third required vision and a cool head . This guy has class. Whilst I realise that 'if' is probably the biggest word in football- but if our team could have held on to those leads we would now be 8 points better off and in a decent position. Given that two of the games were against Cardiff and Burnley then the impact of these 'wins ' would be very dramatic.
Good player in the wrong team which is sad

Very well said