The Riverside Stand Redevelopment

[S.F.Sorrow]

Actually think it helps if it happens when we get relegated; less hassle moving people from the Riverside as gates will be less!

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Having a bigger stadium than Crystal Palace, Charlton Athletic and QPR is important to Fulham's future. Only Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and West Ham will have bigger grounds in the Capital.

Having a Stadium of 30,000 vitually guarantees that any team that fall into League One will get out because 30,000 tickets sold at very low prices is enough to buy players to get out League One (except for MK-Dons and Coventry that i don't believe own their stadiums). For example, I believe Sunderland and Charlton Athletic will be in the Championship in not too long.

How exactly are we going to sell 30.000 tickets in League One?

[MJG]

Actually think it helps if it happens when we get relegated; less hassle moving people from the Riverside as gates will be less!

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Having a bigger stadium than Crystal Palace, Charlton Athletic and QPR is important to Fulham's future. Only Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and West Ham will have bigger grounds in the Capital.

Having a Stadium of 30,000 vitually guarantees that any team that fall into League One will get out because 30,000 tickets sold at very low prices is enough to buy players to get out League One (except for MK-Dons and Coventry that i don't believe own their stadiums). For example, I believe Sunderland and Charlton Athletic will be in the Championship in not too long.

How exactly are we going to sell 30.000 tickets in League One?

The stand is really designed to be 20% matchday and 80% non matchday, so in many ways what league we are in makes no difference given the location and new facilities that could be used.

[res]

Does everybody on here remain 100% convinced that it is going to start in May ?
Might be sticking my neck out a bit here but
I still dont think its going to happen,
Im predicting a statement before the end of March along the lines of "complexities of the site" or "lead in times" blah, blah, blah, so we are delaying it by one year so that "we can deliver a World Class product"
This gives the Khan's an opportunity to see exactly how far we fall and what the consequences are,
Before all the snowflakes reply with "Dont care about The Riverside Stand, defenders are more important" the two issues are completely different and should never be merged.
So over to you good people, will it happen (not should it happen) this summer, yes or no ?
N.B I really hope it does.

I think it will but I also think that it's part of a longer term plan to diversify the site into non football activity....which would make the football side more sustainable by bringing in more income. If (when) it starts, it shows Khan's desire to pump in cash and forgoing cheaper options; thus it must be cheaper to build while we ground share elsewhere as, in season, the building work will have to stop on game days at the Cottage which must increase costs and disruption.
I did post a theory some time ago which said that we would go for promotion, collect the Premiership money for one season, get relegated but collect the parachute monies and play in the Championship for a couple of years while the building work is carried out...then go for promotion with a 30000 stadium. Some bits are coming true!

[_Putney_]

Regardless of how capable we deem the Khans, the vision appears to remain in tact, that they want Fulham Football Club to be a top flight team pushing as high as possible.  It makes sense, then, to invest in the club's stadium, where such an investment would serve benefits both on and off match days.  I cannot see this not happening.  However, yesterday I accidentally walked into the Thames thinking it was Sainsbury's so I might be wrong about this.

[H4usuallysitting]

NFR - Brentford's new stadium is flying up...looking like the framework for 1 side & 2 ends are already up

[Baszab]

Couldn't care less about the new stand
I want the team to be successful
Who cares if the owners can make money out of it?
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen until we are established in Premier after the next promotion in 2021

[Riversider]

Couldn't care less about the new stand
I want the team to be successful
Who cares if the owners can make money out of it?
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen until we are established in Premier after the next promotion in 2021

There's always one 😩

[fulhamben]

Couldn't care less about the new stand
I want the team to be successful
Who cares if the owners can make money out of it?
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen until we are established in Premier after the next promotion in 2021

the owners might care which means we should care. Surely it would make sense to sell it and ground share with Brentford so that we could pump more money into the better team that you are after. Or we could redevelop the stand which gives us a better revenue stream, to pump money into the better team that you are after, and and it ensures our long term survival at the cottage. And the other two options are break ffp to get the better team, or finally do absouletly nothing and live by our means as a top half championship team.

[MikeW]

Ben: We've 'pumped' £100M already and where has that got us?  The money has never been in doubt, it's the wisdom of those pressing the spend button that is in question.

[Deeping_white]

Couldn't care less about the new stand
I want the team to be successful
Who cares if the owners can make money out of it?
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen until we are established in Premier after the next promotion in 2021

You were on here not so long ago whining that Khan was asset stripping us for a sale, so you probably don't want the new stand so it allows you to keep peddling that angle rather than being proven wrong. The most successful teams are also as a rule of thumb, the richest, so arguably why would you want the club to not press ahead with something that makes us more money and allows us to be more successful from a financial perspective? 3 of the stands on our much loved stadium are knackered and need replacing/seriously updating anyway, so if you don't do it now, when do you do it?

[MJG]

Couldn't care less about the new stand
I want the team to be successful
Who cares if the owners can make money out of it?
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen until we are established in Premier after the next promotion in 2021

what would established mean in your eyes?

[filham]

We have been talking about this stand for some years now and clearly there has been too much talk.  I have always said I will believe it is going to happen only when the first cubic metre of concrete is poured.

Also I would preferred a development that would have improved all sides of the ground to give more comfort to all fans together with an increase in capacity to over 30,000 rather than a giant new stand by the river having the purpose more of a giant monument than a genuine stadium improvement.

[Woolly Mammoth]

We have been talking about this stand for some years now and clearly there has been too much talk.  I have always said I will believe it is going to happen only when the first cubic metre of concrete is poured.

Also I would preferred a development that would have improved all sides of the ground to give more comfort to all fans together with an increase in capacity to over 30,000 rather than a giant new stand by the river having the purpose more of a giant monument than a genuine stadium improvement.

That's been my thoughts also.

[Deeping_white]

We have been talking about this stand for some years now and clearly there has been too much talk.  I have always said I will believe it is going to happen only when the first cubic metre of concrete is poured.

Also I would preferred a development that would have improved all sides of the ground to give more comfort to all fans together with an increase in capacity to over 30,000 rather than a giant new stand by the river having the purpose more of a giant monument than a genuine stadium improvement.

The thing is though, the Khans probably couldn't win because if they announced plans to do all three sides of the ground at once, it'd naturally start the conspiracy theorists off about moving us away from the cottage and selling it, as inevitably you'd have to move grounds while the work was underway. Doing the Roverside first gives you the scope to move away from the Cottage to do the Putney and Hammersmith stands while the ground is still making money via the retail units in the updated Riverside stand. Plus work to both ends will take a very long time to sort out, owing to the fact we've got no room to manoeuvre with Bishops park at one end and a built up area right behind the Hammersmith end

[Baszab]

I just feel that the club is so badly managed and this season has become such a total disaster..... who cares about a new stadium ?
Look at Darlington

If Khans want to invest in a stadium and make money...go and buy Wembley

[Statto]

Actually think it helps if it happens when we get relegated; less hassle moving people from the Riverside as gates will be less!

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Having a bigger stadium than Crystal Palace, Charlton Athletic and QPR is important to Fulham's future. Only Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and West Ham will have bigger grounds in the Capital.

Having a Stadium of 30,000 vitually guarantees that any team that fall into League One will get out because 30,000 tickets sold at very low prices is enough to buy players to get out League One (except for MK-Dons and Coventry that i don't believe own their stadiums). For example, I believe Sunderland and Charlton Athletic will be in the Championship in not too long.

How exactly are we going to sell 30.000 tickets in League One?

The stand is really designed to be 20% matchday and 80% non matchday, so in many ways what league we are in makes no difference given the location and new facilities that could be used.

Personally I'd like to hear some numbers.

SF Sorrow makes a good point that we aren't going to get more than 24,000 fans outside the PL so the additional matchday revenue will be zero. In the PL an extra 5,000 fans will equate to what, an extra £3-4m per year or something like that? A meaningless amount in the PL.

The non-matchday revenue needs to be equating to £15m per year or something like that to have any bearing on our success IMO, even in the Championship. Anything much less than that and it's about as useful as the MJ statue.

[fulhamben]

Ben: We've 'pumped' £100M already and where has that got us?  The money has never been in doubt, it's the wisdom of those pressing the spend button that is in question.

So how does not upgrading the stadium change that?

[fulhamben]

Actually think it helps if it happens when we get relegated; less hassle moving people from the Riverside as gates will be less!

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Having a bigger stadium than Crystal Palace, Charlton Athletic and QPR is important to Fulham's future. Only Arsenal, Spurs, Chelsea and West Ham will have bigger grounds in the Capital.

Having a Stadium of 30,000 vitually guarantees that any team that fall into League One will get out because 30,000 tickets sold at very low prices is enough to buy players to get out League One (except for MK-Dons and Coventry that i don't believe own their stadiums). For example, I believe Sunderland and Charlton Athletic will be in the Championship in not too long.

How exactly are we going to sell 30.000 tickets in League One?

The stand is really designed to be 20% matchday and 80% non matchday, so in many ways what league we are in makes no difference given the location and new facilities that could be used.

Personally I'd like to hear some numbers.

SF Sorrow makes a good point that we aren't going to get more than 24,000 fans outside the PL so the additional matchday revenue will be zero. In the PL an extra 5,000 fans will equate to what, an extra £3-4m per year or something like that? A meaningless amount in the PL.

The non-matchday revenue needs to be equating to £15m per year or something like that to have any bearing on our success IMO, even in the Championship. Anything much less than that and it's about as useful as the MJ statue.

how many people ever saw us getting 25k again in the cottage, when we were lingering near the bottom of the fourth division? If we so not try to progress, we will only ever go backwards. It's not even like the money for this is coming out of our transfer budget. We haven't sold the jewels to fund it, so lets not look a gift horse in the mouth, and embrace what will be a fantastic new stand for decades to come. I can't imagine many other fans being so against an upgrade, let alone fans from teams whose stadium is seen as prime location for flats by everyone not connected to the club

[Holders]

Couldn't care less about the new stand
I want the team to be successful
Who cares if the owners can make money out of it?
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen until we are established in Premier after the next promotion in 2021

You were on here not so long ago whining that Khan was asset stripping us for a sale, so you probably don't want the new stand so it allows you to keep peddling that angle rather than being proven wrong. The most successful teams are also as a rule of thumb, the richest, so arguably why would you want the club to not press ahead with something that makes us more money and allows us to be more successful from a financial perspective? 3 of the stands on our much loved stadium are knackered and need replacing/seriously updating anyway, so if you don't do it now, when do you do it?

Just curious - which stand isn't knackered?

[Woolly Mammoth]

Couldn't care less about the new stand
I want the team to be successful
Who cares if the owners can make money out of it?
I genuinely hope it doesn't happen until we are established in Premier after the next promotion in 2021

You were on here not so long ago whining that Khan was asset stripping us for a sale, so you probably don't want the new stand so it allows you to keep peddling that angle rather than being proven wrong. The most successful teams are also as a rule of thumb, the richest, so arguably why would you want the club to not press ahead with something that makes us more money and allows us to be more successful from a financial perspective? 3 of the stands on our much loved stadium are knackered and need replacing/seriously updating anyway, so if you don't do it now, when do you do it?

Just curious - which stand isn't knackered?

The Hot Dog Stand.