Summer Transfer Gossip.

[Roberty]

Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him. 

So what are you suggesting the chronology might have been?
Aston Villa et al offer £10m for McCormack in May and we say no.
We enquire about Pereira in June but can't afford the £2m loan fee.
Then Villa increase their offer to £12m in August so we accept it.
Suddenly we have £12m and spunk it on Jozabed, Kebano and Sigurdsson in the last week of the window.

Sorry but if so, that just sounds like, as usual, we suffered because no one at FFC attached any time-sensitivity to transfers.
Haggling over an extra couple of million for McCormack or a million less for Pereira, where did it get us?
A bunch of overpriced foreigners brought in too late to adapt to English football, and an embarrassing 11th hour loan deal for Chris Martin.

We would have been better off accepting a lower offer for McCormack and getting all the business (outward and inward) done in June/July.

When I saw the thread was Transfer Gossip - I thought it might be for this season - apparently not

[grandad]

Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.

[Roberty]

Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.

Was he a Fulham Academy graduate ?
BREAKING NEWS
Toni Duggan is joining Spanish league champions Atletico Madrid on a two-year contract.
The 28-year-old England international left Barcelona earlier this summer, after spending two years with the Catalan club, helping them to last season's Champions League final.
Duggan has previously played for Everton and Manchester City and has registered 22 goals in 75 international appearances.

[Tabby]

Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.

She isn't going to be playing for the mens side. The Atletico Madrid womens team won last year.

[dgnffc]

Sky Transfer feed have just said Atletico Madrid " The Spanish League Champions" are signing Toni Duggan. Excuse me I thought Barcelona were. Clueless reporting.

Was he a Fulham Academy graduate ?
BREAKING NEWS
Toni Duggan is joining Spanish league champions Atletico Madrid on a two-year contract.
The 28-year-old England international left Barcelona earlier this summer, after spending two years with the Catalan club, helping them to last season's Champions League final.
Duggan has previously played for Everton and Manchester City and has registered 22 goals in 75 international appearances.

Think this might be a she

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[jayffc]

Jokanovic was talking about building the team around him in May as well. You can't think it's a coincidence that we happened to spend the exact amount we got for McCormack after we sold him. 

So what are you suggesting the chronology might have been?
Aston Villa et al offer £10m for McCormack in May and we say no.
We enquire about Pereira in June but can't afford the £2m loan fee.
Then Villa increase their offer to £12m in August so we accept it.
Suddenly we have £12m and spunk it on Jozabed, Kebano and Sigurdsson in the last week of the window.

Sorry but if so, that just sounds like, as usual, we suffered because no one at FFC attached any time-sensitivity to transfers.
Haggling over an extra couple of million for McCormack or a million less for Pereira, where did it get us?
A bunch of overpriced foreigners brought in too late to adapt to English football, and an embarrassing 11th hour loan deal for Chris Martin.

We would have been better off accepting a lower offer for McCormack and getting all the business (outward and inward) done in June/July.

Having an interest in, doesn't mean we'd agreed on a fee or even knew what the initial bid would be for certain.

Once you know there is interest, you go. Ok team, we "might" get a figure around lets say 12 million here, but, we might not. Now let's explore what we could do if we did have that, and what we could do if we don't have that coming in. Then let's try and work out the best scenario for us... Maybe then while working that out, your manager speaks up and says they want to keep this player, so you think, hmmm ok maybe we should try to do that...then all of a sudden, that player themselves might turn around and say, hey guys actually, I was happy to stay, but now I know there is interest from that club, I do really want to go there....

In that time, some of your 1st choice targets that you'd have bid for, had you known earlier you definitely were going to have that money coming in, may have already been sold elsewhere. Or, some of the selling clubs, now knowing you have sold a big asset and are desperate, may now want a piece of that pie and will try and drive prices up ....and....and....and.... so many different variables. It's not a simple exercise, there are a huge amount of moving goalposts all the time.

Other examples of quotes from the podcast interview..... 'If I'd have taken Okaka early and opted to make the signing for peace of mind, we wouldn't have got Mitrovic.'
'sometimes you have to wait until the better players become available.'   This is just how it is, and how many Directors of different clubs say it is.

Other quotes "there are times when I didn't wait and I regretted it, and there are times when I waited too long" Yup...there's no definitive answer or blueprint.

It's not straight forward. There is no simple answer. Its never got right every time by anyone. Even getting transfers right 'most' of the time ,is tricky for the majority of clubs.

The loan fee for Pereira was roughly the same as the cost of the first of 2 payments on Stefan Johansson's contract...plus we got Piazon instead in that loan slot. Had we got business tied up early with Pereira,  we probably wouldn't have got stefjo who was vital that season. Sometimes it works out, sometimes it doesnt.

'We are on a tight budget in the championship' . You have to move the money around to make it work where it's needed as the moving pieces shift. Again. It's not just the simplicity of transfer fees, there are wages involved, bonus' etc. etc.


p.s so sorry to those irritated by this topic being brought up on here again. I totally get it, I also just want to read transfer rumours, instead of the constant diverting of everything that pops up into a chance to show how useless Tony Khan is. The counter-arguments aren't the reason it happens in the first place though.

[LVBPTS]

After his tweet, we can discredit that ITK agent then can't we.

yup if you like - not going to bite

Only kidding  :003: as always, appreciate passing on what you heard. Slow work day

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[Mince n Tatties]

Oh well another blank day.
I'm off for an early night,nudge me if anything happens....💤💤💤💤💤💤💤

[sunburywhite]

Oh well another blank day.
I'm off for an early night,nudge me if anything happens....💤💤💤💤💤💤💤

Nudge nudge, wink wink
Man: 'Evening, squire!

Squire: (stiffly) Good evening.

Man: Is, uh,...Is your wife a goer, eh? Know whatahmean, know whatahmean, nudge nudge, know whatahmean, say no more?

Squire: I, uh, I beg your pardon?

Man: Your, uh, your wife, does she go, eh, does she go, eh?

Squire: (flustered) Well, she sometimes 'goes', yes.

Man: Aaaaaaaah bet she does, I bet she does, say no more, say no more, know whatahmean, nudge nudge?

Squire: (confused) I'm afraid I don't quite follow you.

Man: Follow me. Follow me. That's good, that's good! A nod's as good as a wink to a blind bat!

Squire: Are you, uh,...are you selling something?

Man: SELLING! Very good, very good! Ay? Ay? Ay? (pause) Oooh! Ya wicked Ay! Wicked Ay! Oooh hooh! Say No MORE!

Squire: Well, I, uh....

Man: Is, your uh, is your wife a sport, ay?

Squire: Um, she likes sport, yes!

Man: I bet she does, I bet she does!

Squire: As a matter of fact she's very fond of cricket.

Man: 'Oo isn't? Likes games, eh? Knew she would. Likes games, eh? She's been around a bit, been around?

Squire: She has traveled, yes. She's from Scarsdale. (pause)

Man: SAY NO MORE!!

Man: Scarsdale, saynomore, saynomore, saynomore, squire!

Squire: I wasn't going to!

Man: Oh! Well, never mind. Dib dib? Is your uh, is your wife interested in....photography, ay? 'Photographs, ay', he asked him knowlingly?

Squire: Photography?

Man: Snap snap, grin grin, wink wink, nudge nudge, say no more?

Squire: Holiday snaps, eh?

Man: They could be, they could be taken on holiday. Candid, you know, CANDID photography?

Squire: No, no I'm afraid we don't have a camera.

Man: Oh. (leeringly) Still, mooooooh, ay? Mwoohohohohoo, ay? Hohohohohoho, ay?

Squire: Look... are you insinuating something?

Man: Oh, no, no, no...yes.

Squire: Well?

Man: Well, you're a man of the world, squire.

Squire: Yes...

Man: I mean, you've been around a bit, you know, like, you've, uh.... You've 'done it'....

Squire: What do you mean?

Man: Well, I mean like,....you've SLEPT, with a lady....

Squire: Yes....

Man: What's it like?

[Milo]

Hahaha nudge nudge

[keithh]

Looking back to the 4 pages of the "Official 2019/20 Summer Transfer Thread" for the date of the last entry - it was 22nd July.

[GJB]

There's a chance the rumours about Hangeland aren't true, but there's also a chance Hangeland has denied those rumours for confidentiality reasons. If true, the club will not want Hangeland going onto twitter spreading their transfer plans for anybody to hear so have probably told him to keep his mouth shut

[Riversider]

One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

[BernieBoy]

One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.

The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.

[GJB]

One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Dann is 32 now and only played 660 minutes last season in the prem - about 7.5 games. Firstly, he's old and would mean we'd be looking for a replacement within a year or two and also if we're purchasing a new player, wouldn't we rather somebody who had played the entirety of last season for their club? Or were you suggesting we buy him as purely a back-up?

[JoelH5]

One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.

The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.

Been thinking the same. It's been super quiet.

[GJB]

Does anybody know if Michael Hector has played much pre-season?

[Mince n Tatties]

Nudge Nudge....lol
Johnny Depp guested on the show,said Paul
Whitehouse is funniest guy ever.

[JoelH5]

Zzzz. Getting so bored. No football, no transfer rumours! At least the league starts on Friday

[Nero]

One player that we've all forgotten about is Scott Dann, we were heavily linked in January but no mention all summer,
Hector and Dann in and that's centre back well and truly covered,
Now for right back and midfield 👍🏻

Hasn't played a lot of football recently, but I'd certainly take Dann. Think we need someone a bit younger, fitter and quicker.

The one thing I've noticed the last few days is there being no rumours to us linked to players, which is a bit disappointing. Nice to speculate over who we may or may not get with links in the press.

Could you image if TK signed him, it would be why have we sign a 32 year old that hasn't played in the last year, whats Khan doing hes a joke probably on big wages as well coming from the premier league why need young players for when we go up