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Summer Transfer Gossip.

Started by Mince n Tatties, April 28, 2019, 08:26:09 AM

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FFC1987

Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.

Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.

Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.

twang

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.

Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.

Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.

It wouldn't be the worst, but I just can't see what Fonte adds as a lone striker. Agree about Kamara though.

FFC1987

Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 12:03:05 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:41:58 AM
Quote from: twang on August 01, 2019, 11:38:52 AM
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on August 01, 2019, 10:44:00 AM
Don't we need another out and out CF in case Mitro is injured? And a CB and a CDM would be good.

Unless we manage to shift Rui Fonte I suspect we won't be signing another striker.

Honestly, with pace around him, I don't mind Fonte as backup. I'd have Kamara in front of him though as that pace up top would be ridiculous.

It wouldn't be the worst, but I just can't see what Fonte adds as a lone striker. Agree about Kamara though.

I saw glimpses of a good hold up striker when he was with us. He was isolated a lot BUT he was also poor too often than not. I think theres a decent player there and with the right support, could step up when needed for us.


David I

Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.
In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.
Exactly, you cant base performance on goals per game. It has to be based on shots. For instance you could go a few games with very few shots and others where you are peppered.
Favouritism playing its part in some stats...

Nero

Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Theres only one way to settle this argument get - ask TK and what ever he says is wrong

Mince n Tatties

Quote from: FFC1987 on August 01, 2019, 11:38:17 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on August 01, 2019, 11:37:09 AM
Club Statement at 2pm.
Fulham have completed their business for this window.😋

Is this one of your veiled joke statements or is there truth to it.....


Would I Joke.😋


LVBPTS

Quote from: Nero on August 01, 2019, 12:07:19 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Theres only one way to settle this argument get - ask TK and what ever he says is wrong

im a big fan of Tony Khan but even i had to laugh at that :-)
Supporter since 2000

The Rational Fan

#2107
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

If we think save ratio is only judge of goalkeepers, Fabri made 16 saves with 5 conceded last season at a 76% save ratio, compared to Betts making 20 saves with 20 goals comceeded at a 50% save ratio. The truth is other factors like command of the area need to be considered also.

the nutflush

Can we please have a frikkin trade rumour!!!!


Nero

Quote from: the nutflush on August 01, 2019, 12:28:13 PM
Can we please have a frikkin trade rumour!!!!

i heard that are going to get a FX trading platform on the back of the shirts, will that so?

BernieBoy

Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion

+1

fulhamben

Quote from: BernieBoy on August 01, 2019, 12:46:31 PM
Quote from: JimOG on August 01, 2019, 10:28:40 AM
Gayle + Mitro would have been a good option but Cav + Mitro + Knockaert is so much better. We need to spend that money on Besic + Hector and then I'd be very confident of promotion

+1
have we even been linked with these 2, or is this just a wish list
CHRIS MARTIN IS SO BAD,  WE NOW PRAISE HIM FOR MAKING A RUN.


simplyfulham

Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

JimOG

Linked by papers etc hardly best sources

Statto

Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.


FFC1987

Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.

Especially not to spend 10m on him either.

grandad

Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.
Where there's a will there's a wife

simplyfulham

Quote from: Statto on August 01, 2019, 01:10:53 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on August 01, 2019, 01:01:17 PM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 11:40:28 AM
Quote from: Chutney on August 01, 2019, 11:23:14 AM
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on August 01, 2019, 08:49:12 AM
Quote from: grandad on July 31, 2019, 11:05:38 PM
Etheridge made quite a few cock ups last season. Betts is much better.

In no world is Bettinelli better than Etheridge.

Bettinelli has a better save %, better distribution figures and has conceded fewer goals.

Strange that playing less games means you concede less. However, at PL level, Bettinelli conceded 20 in 7, rate of just under 3 a game. Etheridge 69 in 38, under 2 a game.

Etheridge's distribution is awful, but so is Bettinelli's.

Etheridge faced 210 shots on target last season, Bettinelli 40. Etheridge conceded 69, Bettinelli 20. Etheridge hence has a better save % of 67% to 50%.

Guess the defence they play behind doesn't count then hey?  :doh:

Well, not in relation to distribution or save %

Although FWIW I still wouldn't swap Betts for Etheridge.

Save % of what though?

If I save 90% of shots from 45 yards am I better keeper than you if you save 10% of shots from 6 yards.

If you have a better defence infront of you restricting chances to shots that are less likely to be dangerous then yes I'd say it makes a big difference.


Jeroen

Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.

How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?

dgnffc

Quote from: Jeroen on August 01, 2019, 01:33:06 PM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 01:18:48 PM
Quote from: Arthur on August 01, 2019, 10:39:35 AM
Quote from: grandad on August 01, 2019, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: humussapiens on August 01, 2019, 10:09:36 AM
Newcastle wants 15 mil for Gayle.

I would buy him in an instant, more to stop other teams getting a proven goal scorer.

But you've been critical in the past of bigger clubs that stockpile players (albeit mostly emerging talents) and then loan them abroad or to lower leagues seemingly as a means of preventing other P.L. clubs from utilising their talent.

Would I be right in saying this is a case of your having one rule for us and another for them?
We are not a big club, we need cover for Mitro, one player is not stockpiling, option to play 4-4-2 or 4-3-3.

How about the guy we signed from Chelsea for a free for the U23 - He seemed lie a good prospect, can he be an understudy at some point during the season?

He hasn't played in the last 2 U23 games and he's not got a squad number. Not sure what's happened to him.