Unpopular opinion...

[The Rational Fan]

We don't have an obvious quality Right Back, but equally whoever is the backup right back out of Christie and Odoi is probably the best backup RB in the championship. The Championship is a marathon and we have a depth of five decent RBs, and there is no way i would say we have a great backup CF which is a more specialised position too. We may not have enough depth upfront and attacking lower table teams is still hard, although defending against them is not so hard.

[Mince n Tatties]

The nonsense talked about Christie by some is rather rib tickling I find.
Christie is a good championship rb,and if he starts there at Barnsley I will be happy with that.

[The Rational Fan]

The nonsense talked about Christie by some is rather rib tickling I find.
Christie is a good championship rb,and if he starts there at Barnsley I will be happy with that.

According to Transfermarket at Right Back Fulham have
i) the 7th most valuable right back in the championship in Christie
ii) the 14th most valuable right back with Odoi
iii) the 21st most valuable if S.Sess is worth £1.4m (he should be worth more)
iv) the 28th most valuable if Fossey is worth £700k (he should be worth more)
v) the 34th most valuable if Dramah s worth £450k (he should be worth more)

According to Transfermarket at Centre Forward Fulham have
i) the most valuable centre forward in Mitrovoic
ii) the 29th most valuable centre forward in Kamara
iii) the 34th most valuable centre forward in Fonte
iv) the 72nd most valuable if Cameron Thompson is worth £450k (and he isn't worth that much)

I think backup centre forwards is where we need someone most, about 14th would cost us 6 million at least

[FFC1987]

The nonsense talked about Christie by some is rather rib tickling I find.
Christie is a good championship rb,and if he starts there at Barnsley I will be happy with that.

The games about opinions. I think the championship is his level but i'm not sure he's an automatic promotion RB, top 6 with form sure. I made the case to why I think he's not the greatest option for a team wanting to win the league and he's struggled over the last 2 seasons to have any impact but if he starts, and he does well, he'll be supported.

[Sting of the North]

The nonsense talked about Christie by some is rather rib tickling I find.
Christie is a good championship rb,and if he starts there at Barnsley I will be happy with that.

According to Transfermarket at Right Back Fulham have
i) the 7th most valuable right back in the championship in Christie
ii) the 14th most valuable right back with Odoi
iii) the 21st most valuable if S.Sess is worth £1.4m (he should be worth more)
iv) the 28th most valuable if Fossey is worth £700k (he should be worth more)
v) the 34th most valuable if Dramah s worth £450k (he should be worth more)

According to Transfermarket at Centre Forward Fulham have
i) the most valuable centre forward in Mitrovoic
ii) the 29th most valuable centre forward in Kamara
iii) the 34th most valuable centre forward in Fonte
iv) the 72nd most valuable if Cameron Thompson is worth £450k (and he isn't worth that much)

I think backup centre forwards is where we need someone most, about 14th would cost us 6 million at least

Why do you come to the conclusion that for example Steven Sess is undervalued, and that Cameron Thompson is overvalued? Is that just to fit your narrative, or is there any substance to it (since as far as I know neither has shown that they belong in the professional game yet, even less close to the top)? I also think however that transfermarkt valuations are basically useless in these kinds of discussions, since they do not give a fair reflection of how the player in question could be expected to perform for his particular team in this particular point in time. 

Lastly, we have as we can see two right backs and three centre forwards that are fairly established professionals. So I believe that based on your facts, your conclusion is wrong. I do also believe however that a good back up striker would add more to the squad than another right back, unless that right back was clearly a class above the current ones.

[FFC1987]

The nonsense talked about Christie by some is rather rib tickling I find.
Christie is a good championship rb,and if he starts there at Barnsley I will be happy with that.

According to Transfermarket at Right Back Fulham have
i) the 7th most valuable right back in the championship in Christie
ii) the 14th most valuable right back with Odoi
iii) the 21st most valuable if S.Sess is worth £1.4m (he should be worth more)
iv) the 28th most valuable if Fossey is worth £700k (he should be worth more)
v) the 34th most valuable if Dramah s worth £450k (he should be worth more)

According to Transfermarket at Centre Forward Fulham have
i) the most valuable centre forward in Mitrovoic
ii) the 29th most valuable centre forward in Kamara
iii) the 34th most valuable centre forward in Fonte
iv) the 72nd most valuable if Cameron Thompson is worth £450k (and he isn't worth that much)

I think backup centre forwards is where we need someone most, about 14th would cost us 6 million at least

Why do you come to the conclusion that for example Steven Sess is undervalued, and that Cameron Thompson is overvalued? Is that just to fit your narrative, or is there any substance to it (since as far as I know neither has shown that they belong in the professional game yet, even less close to the top)? I also think however that transfermarkt valuations are basically useless in these kinds of discussions, since they do not give a fair reflection of how the player in question could be expected to perform for his particular team in this particular point in time. 

Lastly, we have as we can see two right backs and three centre forwards that are fairly established professionals. So I believe that based on your facts, your conclusion is wrong. I do also believe however that a good back up striker would add more to the squad than another right back, unless that right back was clearly a class above the current ones.

I'd argue both are essential. If we start looking at worth in positions we have, we shouldn't forget we have Fonte as a alternative striker.....I know people won't like it but that seems to be the game we're playing.

Currently, I see a need for a CB. a RB, a LW, a RW and a striker....

[copthornemike]

Mmm - if we could bring in a RB who is quick a la Fredericks and 'has a good engine' then we should.

Christie is a solid defender and physically good enough for the Championship. However my problem with Cyrus is that he often appears to take an age to recover back to his defensive place quickly after he breaks forward and so leaving our overall defensive organisation weak. In contrast Fredericks had the pace not only to break past defensive lines with relative ease but used this pace to track back and catch up with attackers  even when he was out of position.
I recall quite a few occasions last season where Odoi ended up acting as both RB and CB whilst Christie was still slowly getting back from the opposition half.
Not sure if it is an issue of stamina, confidence, poor tactical awareness, laziness or a combination of these as he can deliver a good cross on a good day.

[Bassey the warrior]

Not seen enough of Christie at Championship level to make a judgement. All I'll say is he needs to be vastly improved on last season if he's gonna be a starter.

[FPT]

The anti-Cyrus Christie stuff is actually making me feel quite ill at the moment. Sure, he wasn't a good Premier League full back; he never has been a Premier League full back. What he has been is a playoff calibre full back of which the numbers and performances back up from his time in the division. Is he excellent? No, that's why he's played in the Championship for years.

In Championship standards, he's athletic, has great size which helps with set pieces and defended the back post. I think he can get forward well and with a genuine run of games we'll see the best of him.

I will not be stunned if Christie turns this feeling about him around this season, so yeah, I think we're good at right back, especially when you consider we've got Steven Sessegnon and Marlon Fossey in the squad as well. You'll never give young players game time if you just stock a position.

Agree.
Glad to see you back posting FPT.

Thanks :)

It won't be as regular as it was, but I'm looking more frequently at the moment.  049:gif

[FPT]

In Championship standards, he's athletic, has great size which helps with set pieces and defended the back post. I think he can get forward well and with a genuine run of games we'll see the best of him.

I don't know his career prior to Fulham, but was he known for his strength and height being an advantage for set piece defending?

He's athletic, yes, but it leans towards the strong side, not the agile side.   

Perhaps we've all been spoiled by the likes of Ryan Fredericks (and me personally by other fast/agile fullbacks) but when I see them trying to use Cyrus the way that Ryan was used...because Cyrus isn't agile or fast as Ryan I always worry he'll get caught out because he was tired after his forward run and didn't get back quick enough (like Fredericks could do because of his wc pace).

I guess we'll see though.   Speed alone isn't everything as proved by Timothy Fosu Mensah... (I say that knowing full well that TFM would be a fine championship side FB)

We were absolutely spoiled by Ryan Fredericks who is one of the finer full backs to grace that division in recent years. That speed is something you can't teach and we never replaced it at any position in the Premier League last summer. Christie won't offer that,

I don't think I can say he was known for it but I think it's been clear on the eye so far (admittedly I watched him at both Derby and Middlesbrough so perhaps I have a larger pool of reference). His physical attributes have never been questioned, even when breaking through at Coventry.

Probably an important part of the equation is considering that Scott Parker had Timothy Fosu-Mensah as his starter at the right back position, and after his season was ended by injury, it was Denis Odoi until his head injury let Cyrus Christie in. That may say a lot about how he feels about it, and perhaps when a centre back (or two) come in, it'll become Denis' to lose.

[bog]

If S Sess does not figure pre-season what is the point of him being here? 

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[AnOldBrownie]

Probably an important part of the equation is considering that Scott Parker had Timothy Fosu-Mensah as his starter at the right back position, and after his season was ended by injury, it was Denis Odoi until his head injury let Cyrus Christie in. That may say a lot about how he feels about it, and perhaps when a centre back (or two) come in, it'll become Denis' to lose.

Yeah, I'm not sure if Scott see's Cyrus as more than just a backup either.    Denis can play the starter role, but I really think Scott wants one of our younger players to grab the spot.   I know he had Sess and Fossey training with the 1st team before the season ended...and Drameh has been in the recent training shots with Cyrus and Joe Bryan.

I believe Scott will make the right decision with that FB spot.