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Is The Money Being Paid To Players Getting A Bit Silly?

Started by Mince n Tatties, July 21, 2019, 09:31:47 AM

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Mince n Tatties

Just reading this morning that David De Gea the Manure keeper is set to sign a deal worth 117 million over the next few seasons.
I was a goalie when I was young(and a brave one at that)and in them days you had to command your whole box,something you rarely see now with the set ups of defences,a lot of the modern keepers work is done for them.
Money being paid to all players nowadays is getting out of hand,but most keepers now hardly venture out of the six yard box.
Seems like a lot of money to be paid for standing on your line a catching a few balls.😋

grandad

We had £45 mil rated Dunk on his backside yesterday. The level of fees is not sustainable. It is the paying public fueling this situation. All it would take is for everyone to cancel their subs to Sky, BT Sport & Amazon for a month for the bubble to burst. Easy to reinstate. In fact Sky will offer you 3 months free if you tell them you want to cancel.
Where there's a will there's a wife

Mince n Tatties

Quote from: grandad on July 21, 2019, 09:49:13 AM
We had £45 mil rated Dunk on his backside yesterday. The level of fees is not sustainable. It is the paying public fueling this situation. All it would take is for everyone to cancel their subs to Sky, BT Sport & Amazon for a month for the bubble to burst. Easy to reinstate. In fact Sky will offer you 3 months free if you tell them you want to cancel.

Understand what your saying about Dunk and lots of others,my main point is what they are getting paid,like De Gea.


Woolly Mammoth

De Gea wage packet is obscene, as many are. Don't they realise you can only wear one pair of trousers at a time. I cannot see how it can be sustained, it cannot last forever. it is built on sand, if/when the bottom falls out with supply and demand fading, and the sponsors withdrawing, and Sky pulling out it, the structure will collapse like a pack of cards, with may big clubs disappearing into bankruptcy.
In the meantime they won't be getting any of my money directly, maybe indirectly or when I see fit.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

filham

A pay cap for footballers should have been introduced a long time ago, present levels for players are immoral.

Tempest

Is it obscene? So would anyone here turn down a football contract for that amount? Still obscene?

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Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Tempest on July 21, 2019, 10:26:43 AM
Is it obscene? So would anyone here turn down a football contract for that amount? Still obscene?

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Not blaming the player, it's the system.
However, nothing lasts forever, as will be revealed when it occurs.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Statto

Quote from: Tempest on July 21, 2019, 10:26:43 AM
Is it obscene? So would anyone here turn down a football contract for that amount? Still obscene?

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You're right, most people will take whatever money, tax breaks etc they can get, which is why I consider the millions who call themselves "socialists" in our society at the moment totally hypocritical.

However one thing I can say is if I was earning say £50k a week at a club who'd supported me and I liked, I wouldn't leave just because another club offered me £80k
That's what most footballers do these days and it's just greedy. You have to, at some point, say I really don't need any more than I've got now.

ffcne

Quote from: Statto on July 21, 2019, 10:47:02 AM
Quote from: Tempest on July 21, 2019, 10:26:43 AM
Is it obscene? So would anyone here turn down a football contract for that amount? Still obscene?

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You're right, most people will take whatever money, tax breaks etc they can get, which is why I've always considered the millions who call themselves "socialists" in our society at the moment totally hypocritical.

However one thing I can say is if I was earning say £50k a week at a club who'd supported me and I liked, I wouldn't leave just because another club offered me £80k
That's what most footballers do these days and it's just greedy. You have to, at some point, say I really don't need any more than I've got now.

With you on all of that.
Lets enjoy the Championship


SG

Tax on professional footballers salaries now contribute a staggering figure to our national income. I read I seem to recall something like £2billion. The annual budget of a small government department. I totally agree they are ridiculous but the economy would miss the income.
I would place a salary cap on clubs as they do in rugby. Clubs will find ways to circumvent the rules but it should prevent these absurd levels. Each new contract becomes inflationary because the next 'star' wants more.

Mince n Tatties

Its the scale difference.
Have a guess what Bury's keeper earned a week
in league One last season.

Woolly Mammoth

Not as much as De Gea I would have thought. 💰💰💰💰💰💰
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.


Holders

Top players' pay got more than a bit silly decades ago.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria

Apprentice to the Maestro

Quote from: SG on July 21, 2019, 11:08:15 AM
Tax on professional footballers salaries now contribute a staggering figure to our national income. I read I seem to recall something like £2billion. The annual budget of a small government department. I totally agree they are ridiculous but the economy would miss the income.
I would place a salary cap on clubs as they do in rugby. Clubs will find ways to circumvent the rules but it should prevent these absurd levels. Each new contract becomes inflationary because the next 'star' wants more.

That is what FFP is all about.

Then you get others on here saying FFP should be abolished because it doesn't allow our billionaire owner to subsidise the team.

Mince n Tatties

#14
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
Not as much as De Gea I would have thought. 💰💰💰💰💰💰

Just under £800 a week after stoppages,around £3,500 a month,for doing most probably a harder job than De Gea.
Some Bury players haven't been paid for weeks now.


General

Quote from: grandad on July 21, 2019, 09:49:13 AM
We had £45 mil rated Dunk on his backside yesterday. The level of fees is not sustainable. It is the paying public fueling this situation. All it would take is for everyone to cancel their subs to Sky, BT Sport & Amazon for a month for the bubble to burst. Easy to reinstate. In fact Sky will offer you 3 months free if you tell them you want to cancel.

The paying public? Probably the least money comes from fans.. corporate sponsorship second and then tax avoiding foreign money. Think cases of tax avoidance or money laundering through clubs have been talked about around a few clubs. Would make the most sense as to why billionaires buy companies which haemorrhage money.

Statto

Quote from: General on July 21, 2019, 12:05:26 PM
Quote from: grandad on July 21, 2019, 09:49:13 AM
We had £45 mil rated Dunk on his backside yesterday. The level of fees is not sustainable. It is the paying public fueling this situation. All it would take is for everyone to cancel their subs to Sky, BT Sport & Amazon for a month for the bubble to burst. Easy to reinstate. In fact Sky will offer you 3 months free if you tell them you want to cancel.

The paying public? Probably the least money comes from fans.. corporate sponsorship second and then tax avoiding foreign money. Think cases of tax avoidance or money laundering through clubs have been talked about around a few clubs. Would make the most sense as to why billionaires buy companies which haemorrhage money.

Surely grandad is right to suggest most money comes from the TV deal

Then other sponsorship money is still money coming from the fans, albeit indirectly. It's companies using money we've paid for their products to buy advertising space they can use to push more of the same our way.

As to "foreign money" coming from wealthy chairmen you have a point but under FFP that's limited to what, a third, probably less, of the average club's revenue with most income necessarily coming from the paying public

The Rational Fan

#17
In the past, fans paid to see a team within traveling distance by foot or train in decent league that played good football. Now the fan's pay to see their team win and in Champions League, else they follow another team in another city or country. If ManUtd sign Rodak as their number one, they might not qualify for Champions League and their fans will start supporting Juventus instead, which will cost them a lot more than £117 million in lost fan support. The real issue is many fans now support whichever team has the best players rather than staying loyal.


Ara's bacon crisps

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 21, 2019, 11:29:19 AM
Its the scale difference.
Have a guess what Bury's keeper earned a week
in league One last season.
Not very much at all and sadly less than he should have got as I believe Bury's players haven't been paid what they are owed for a good few months. Even their manager has left for Plymouth and regular wages, despite Bury owing him £52k apparently, which he is now unlikely to see.

Yet I saw Bury at Newport on Good Friday and despite not having been paid for a while, there wasn't a single one of their players who didn't put a shift in - they lost that day to a side in great form and making a late dash to the play-offs, but I was still very impressed with them. A lesson there for a few others.1

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 21, 2019, 11:43:50 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 21, 2019, 11:33:52 AM
Not as much as De Gea I would have thought. 💰💰💰💰💰💰

Just under £800 a week after stoppages,around £3,500 a month,for doing most probably a harder job than De Gea.
Some Bury players haven't been paid for weeks now.

That's the reality I suppose of the difference between the haves and the have nots. But it seems so unfair as all the money is concentrated at the top, and the rest of the football pyramid is fed scraps.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.