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So proud of the boys tonight

Started by Bassey the warrior, August 30, 2019, 09:43:42 PM

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RaySmith

Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 30, 2019, 10:11:01 PM
Dull, toothless possession, gifted Cardiff their goal, and took a stupid red to kill any chance of 3 points against a thoroughly mediocre opponent.

What's to be proud about? That we didn't lose? Expectations need to be higher than that.

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Statto

Quote from: MikeTheCubed on August 30, 2019, 10:10:00 PM
Tim Robinson took liberties with something one of our players said to him in the first half and allowed it to cloud his judgement for the rest of the game, which he subsequently lost control of. Should be demoted a division.

Well summed up. It was Knockaert having to point out that the Cardiff players weren't 10 yards from the corner. Embarrassed the ref and he didn't like it.

bill taylors apprentice

Yes we put a shift in and I love the way we keep the ball generally but tonight we over did it again and again, passing for passing sake.
Cardiff were another average team and we didn't test them enough.
The ref was officious and poor but we made it hard for ourselves.


Bassey the warrior

Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 30, 2019, 10:11:01 PM
Dull, toothless possession, gifted Cardiff their goal, and took a stupid red to kill any chance of 3 points against a thoroughly mediocre opponent.

What's to be proud about? That we didn't lose? Expectations need to be higher than that.

This is Fulham. Last season we lose that game. We had poor first half but did well with 10 men and were on top before the red. We're far from the finished product but the mentality is far better than last season.

FFC1987

Quote from: RaySmith on August 30, 2019, 10:13:55 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 30, 2019, 10:11:01 PM
Dull, toothless possession, gifted Cardiff their goal, and took a stupid red to kill any chance of 3 points against a thoroughly mediocre opponent.

What's to be proud about? That we didn't lose? Expectations need to be higher than that.

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Have to say, as much as this post is blunt, it's spot on. We either rate this team and squad to be capable of beating miserable teams away or we don't and accept we aren't top 2. This start to the season as been below par considering our starting fixtures and if forest at home isnt achievable we need to be taking points away. Give Cardiff respect as a tough away fixture but they were prime pickings tonight and again, we met points drop when we have harder fixtures coming. I'm starting to get worried this team is dropping away already from a top 2 finish.

Bassey the warrior

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 30, 2019, 10:17:42 PM
Yes we put a shift in and I love the way we keep the ball generally but tonight we over did it again and again, passing for passing sake.
Cardiff were another average team and we didn't test them enough.
The ref was officious and poor but we made it hard for ourselves.

Agree with this. Problem is lack of movement, midfirld three need to do more to create options.


grandad

Strange lot we are. Half think we were poor & half said we played well. I thought it was a gritty performance especially when down to 10. Happy with the point in the end. Perhaps one day the EFL will make appointments at Specsavers for all the officials.
Where there's a will there's a wife

JoelH5

Quote from: Arthur on August 30, 2019, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 30, 2019, 09:46:58 PM
Can someone explain why Arter gets a yellow for a dive (when his back leg was touched), yet Flint, doesnt get a yellow forn a dive? Ref didn't give a pen so it must have been a dive.... poo refs again.

Because Flint's dive took place in a crowded area with the ball a little distance away and his action was only clear upon seeing the replay. Perhaps we should be thankful that Flint did fall: had he tried to run from Cairney, it may have been apparent that our captain had hold of his shirt (a la Luiz on Salah the other week).

But the ref waved it away so he saw it... so then it's a booking for simulation
I was there, standing in the Putney end

Mince n Tatties

Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 30, 2019, 10:18:02 PM
Quote from: Denver Fulham on August 30, 2019, 10:11:01 PM
Dull, toothless possession, gifted Cardiff their goal, and took a stupid red to kill any chance of 3 points against a thoroughly mediocre opponent.

What's to be proud about? That we didn't lose? Expectations need to be higher than that.

This is Fulham. Last season we lose that game. We had poor first half but did well with 10 men and were on top before the red. We're far from the finished product but the mentality is far better than last season.

Don't keep on about 10 men,Coventry only had 9 second half at Portsmouth a fortnight ago,and scored twice.😉


Woolly Mammoth

I thought Cardiff were there for the taking, obviously the red card reduced our chances and naturally we defended what we had, so under the circumstances it was a point won.
When we have possession as much as we do, there has to be more movement off the ball, that's my only criticism. So I am relieved we brought a point away from a difficult place, with one man shy.
I cannot see Cardiff in the top six going by what I saw tonight. But I can see Fulham progressing all the way through the season.
Under SP, we are far more street wise and tenacious, and we have more leaders and characters. Given the same circumstances last years team would have lost tonight.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Mince n Tatties

This forum is becoming obsessed with refs,every time we don't win its the refs fault.😜

LittleErn

Quote from: MikeTheCubed on August 30, 2019, 10:10:00 PM
Tim Robinson took liberties with something one of our players said to him in the first half and allowed it to cloud his judgement for the rest of the game, which he subsequently lost control of. Should be demoted a division.

Warnock said "the Ref had a good game tonight" - says it all!


LittleErn

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 30, 2019, 10:22:41 PM

When we have possession as much as we do, there has to be more movement off the ball, that's my only criticism.  tonight.


Your'e not wrong - but if forwards make a run and then the midfield don't release the pass they soon give up!


grandad

Quote from: LittleErn on August 30, 2019, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: MikeTheCubed on August 30, 2019, 10:10:00 PM
Tim Robinson took liberties with something one of our players said to him in the first half and allowed it to cloud his judgement for the rest of the game, which he subsequently lost control of. Should be demoted a division.

Warnock said "the Ref had a good game tonight" - says it all!
Sure he did, for them.
Where there's a will there's a wife

Bassey the warrior

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 30, 2019, 10:22:41 PM
I thought Cardiff were there for the taking, obviously the red card reduced our chances and naturally we defended what we had, so under the circumstances it was a point won.
When we have possession as much as we do, there has to be more movement off the ball, that's my only criticism. So I am relieved we brought a point away from a difficult place, with one man shy.
I cannot see Cardiff in the top six going by what I saw tonight. But I can see Fulham progressing all the way through the season.
Under SP, we are far more street wise and tenacious, and we have more leaders and characters. Given the same circumstances last years team would have lost tonight.


Echoes my view entirely.


SP

Thankfully the late winner I feared from Junior Hoilett didn't materialise, I think I'd have thrown up hearing the Sky pundits celebrating a well deserved winner.

bobbo

Quote from: Mitrovic the warrior on August 30, 2019, 09:54:38 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on August 30, 2019, 09:46:58 PM
Can someone explain why Arter gets a yellow for a dive (when his back leg was touched), yet Flint, doesnt get a yellow forn a dive? Ref didn't give a pen so it must have been a dive.... poo refs again.

Ask the ref.
didnt you know they are not accountable for their decisions.
1975 just leaving home full of hope

bahay18

the game turned on Arter , well in control until then without really threatening .i think with 11 we would have worn them down , they had no ideas at all .


bobbo

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on August 30, 2019, 10:17:42 PM
Yes we put a shift in and I love the way we keep the ball generally but tonight we over did it again and again, passing for passing sake.
Cardiff were another average team and we didn't test them enough.
The ref was officious and poor but we made it hard for ourselves.
i thought the ref had it in for arta from the start. But I don't know why maybe he was gobbing off.
1975 just leaving home full of hope

MikeTheCubed

Quote from: LittleErn on August 30, 2019, 10:23:33 PM
Quote from: MikeTheCubed on August 30, 2019, 10:10:00 PM
Tim Robinson took liberties with something one of our players said to him in the first half and allowed it to cloud his judgement for the rest of the game, which he subsequently lost control of. Should be demoted a division.

Warnock said "the Ref had a good game tonight" - says it all!

If the referee had actually had a good game tonight then Warnock would have had a heart attack and the game would have been abandoned.