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Started by ALG01, February 01, 2021, 11:33:53 PM

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Woolly Mammoth

#20
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Statto

#21
Could not have wished for a better example of where our transfer strategy is at right now...

Went into the window needing a forward, preferably in time to play in one or more big six-pointers.

Totally disregarded the time sensitivity of this issue, and thought we could be smart by moving on the last day of the window.

Ultimately moved for the most obvious choice imaginable, but the deal fell through at the last minute when we were casually gazumped by a bigger club.

Managed to offload not one but two of our existing forwards.

Then brought in an relatively unproven, unimpressive Ligue 1 player on loan with an option to buy him at a criminally high price.

Beyond incompetence

Sgt Fulham

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.



The Tony Khan effect.


The Rational Fan

#23
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

We have had a very good window to find the money to prepare for the Championship, writing off over valued players down to their correct value. Scott Parker's job is to build a squad that can get promoted and stay in the premier league, as we can now keep our players for next season he has more time to improve. Now, Scott Parker has 18 months to build a premier league unit, rather than buying a striker and expecting instant improvement from the team in one week, slow gradual continuous improvement without reinforcements is what Scott Parker needs to do.

Statto

Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

We have had a very good window to find the money to prepare for the Championship, writing off over valued players down to their correct value. Scott Parker's job is to build a squad that can get promoted and stay in the premier league, as we can now keep our players for next season he has more time to improve. Now, Scott Parker has 18 months to build a premier league unit, rather than buying a striker and expecting instant improvement from the team in one week, slow gradual continuous improvement without reinforcements is what Scott Parker needs to do.

Perhaps it will work out even better, and TK's cunning moves in the last couple of years will lead to us spending not just 18 months, but many years outside the top flight, giving SP even longer to build a premier league unit. We're lucky to have a DOF with such a fantastic long-term vision, whilst other clubs' DOFs are making the schoolboy error of just avoiding relegation and staying in the PL.

Arthur

Quote from: ALG01 on February 01, 2021, 11:56:40 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on February 01, 2021, 11:52:18 PM
We tried hard to get Josh King but he chose someone else. That's the way it goes.

How hard did we try do you think?
I suspect we didn't try at all but did a bit of PR to make it look like we tried.


We had a bid accepted and offered a three-and-a-half year contract.

So what do you imagine happened? That King wanted to sign for us, but we then told him our offer was just a publicity stunt and he'd have to go to Everton instead?

I was going to say no one can really believe such an extreme possibility over the likelihood King simply chose Everton ahead of us.

But, yes, you probably do.





elgreenio

Quote from: Statto on February 02, 2021, 12:52:55 AM
Could not have wished for a better example of where our transfer strategy is at right now...

Went into the window needing a forward, preferably in time to play in one of more big six-pointers.

Totally disregarded the time sensitivity of this issue, and thought we could be smart by moving on the last day of the window.

Ultimately moved for the most obvious choice imaginable, but the deal fell through at the last minute when we were casually gazumped by a bigger club.

Managed to offload not one but two of our existing forwards.

Then brought in an relatively unproven, unimpressive Ligue 1 player on loan with an option to buy him at a criminally high price.

Beyond incompetence

sums up my thoughts exactly
touch my camera through the fence

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

We have had a very good window to find the money to prepare for the Championship, writing off over valued players down to their correct value. Scott Parker's job is to build a squad that can get promoted and stay in the premier league, as we can now keep our players for next season he has more time to improve. Now, Scott Parker has 18 months to build a premier league unit, rather than one week, slow gradual continuous improvement is what Scott Parker needs to do, as he has done so far.

Rational Fan, I said to myself I bet a pound to a penny you would be responding to my post before I could finish my large pint of Youngs Best Bitter, and low and behold you did not let me down, good man.
However, after gathering some information and a little research I have deduced that you are Tony Kahn in disguise as The Rational Fan, you have to be him because nobody would be that misled to defend him, not even The Rational Fan. So you've been sussed and I have felt your collar and it's a fair cop guv.
So it's back to the men in tights pretending to wrestle each other, two falls two submissions or a knockout, which is what I feel you have done to Fulham Football Club in this transfer window.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

AnOldBrownie

Quote from: ALG01 on February 01, 2021, 11:33:53 PM
no effort was attempted to bring in a recognised striker in this window.
Does TK think the squad is good enough?
are his other interests obscuring his vision
even for a rank anateur this is very poor
if he were not his father's son he would surely be shown the door.

or i could be missing something. when he said we were a yoyo club maybe he meant hae had it in mind to sabotage the season by not allowing us the privelidge of a foward line worthy of the name. he is surely taking all the fun out of it in a way I have not felt since the loathsome ian branfoot was manager.

Didn't we try to get two...got one?

Fullerton lost out to Everton.   Happens.


Matt10

It's like there's no discussion anymore. It's basically if you are anti-TK, you are going to build your narrative about it - no matter what. If you're pro-TK, you're going to do the same.

This is why I choose the player's side in these situations because it's not biased, and not built on an agenda to improving only our club.

From everyone's honest perspective here. If you are a player that is most likely going to leave a club, are you going to wait for the best deal possible - or going to pounce as soon as the right club, right contract, and right playing time are in for you?

Guess what? Fulham is not your destination.

We're bottom of the table, we already have a striker, we have supporters that hate our DOF, and we have a DOF that has a side business.

Those are the facts. So don't give me this business about starting it earlier in the window. Make an offer that can't be refused, so it better be very high contract amount and playing time that can't be challenged. Does not exist, and any DOF doing that would upset the supporters even more. Especially with a track record like Fulham in overspending.

So, the player waits till deadline day. Multiple clubs come in, even at the last minute, sweetening their deals. Some of them aren't at the bottom of the table, have better supporter-DOF interaction and better DOF overall. What do you as a player sacrifice to make it happen? Playing time, contract amount or something else?

The options get more and more limited, and a decision has to be made. Fulham is not a high priority no matter what we want to believe or want to fabricate.

Those who join us when we are in the predicament we are in should be applauded. They know what they're getting into. We're in a relegation battle, and you're fighting to start - then fighting the pressure to perform. As supporters our track record is laughing at those who attempted this feat. From Nordtveit to Markovic, these players committed to us the last time we were up - and we paid them no mind when the season was over. Will it be the same for Maja? Who knows. What I do know is that I respect the player for taking a chance on our club, full well knowing what the facts are.

The Rational Fan

#30
Quote from: Statto on February 02, 2021, 01:11:04 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

We have had a very good window to find the money to prepare for the Championship, writing off over valued players down to their correct value. Scott Parker's job is to build a squad that can get promoted and stay in the premier league, as we can now keep our players for next season he has more time to improve. Now, Scott Parker has 18 months to build a premier league unit, rather than buying a striker and expecting instant improvement from the team in one week, slow gradual continuous improvement without reinforcements is what Scott Parker needs to do.

Perhaps it will work out even better, and TK's cunning moves in the last couple of years will lead to us spending not just 18 months, but many years outside the top flight, giving SP even longer to build a premier league unit. We're lucky to have a DOF with such a fantastic long-term vision, whilst other clubs' DOFs are making the schoolboy error of just avoiding relegation and staying in the PL.

True, it is a schoolboy error to spend big to stay up, when often under FFP rules spending big to keep a PL team (like Norwich) together in the Championship is better. And, Fulham's current team is better than Norwich.

AnOldBrownie

#31
Quote from: Matt10 on February 02, 2021, 01:58:36 AM
It's like there's no discussion anymore. It's basically if you are anti-TK, you are going to build your narrative about it - no matter what. If you're pro-TK, you're going to do the same.

This is why I choose the player's side in these situations because it's not biased, and not built on an agenda to improving only our club.

From everyone's honest perspective here. If you are a player that is most likely going to leave a club, are you going to wait for the best deal possible - or going to pounce as soon as the right club, right contract, and right playing time are in for you?

Guess what? Fulham is not your destination.

We're bottom of the table, we already have a striker, we have supporters that hate our DOF, and we have a DOF that has a side business.

Those are the facts. So don't give me this business about starting it earlier in the window. Make an offer that can't be refused, so it better be very high contract amount and playing time that can't be challenged. Does not exist, and any DOF doing that would upset the supporters even more. Especially with a track record like Fulham in overspending.

So, the player waits till deadline day. Multiple clubs come in, even at the last minute, sweetening their deals. Some of them aren't at the bottom of the table, have better supporter-DOF interaction and better DOF overall. What do you as a player sacrifice to make it happen? Playing time, contract amount or something else?

The options get more and more limited, and a decision has to be made. Fulham is not a high priority no matter what we want to believe or want to fabricate.

Those who join us when we are in the predicament we are in should be applauded. They know what they're getting into. We're in a relegation battle, and you're fighting to start - then fighting the pressure to perform. As supporters our track record is laughing at those who attempted this feat. From Nordtveit to Markovic, these players committed to us the last time we were up - and we paid them no mind when the season was over. Will it be the same for Maja? Who knows. What I do know is that I respect the player for taking a chance on our club, full well knowing what the facts are.

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The anti-TK sentiment is strong right now, but doing what I put in bold got us stuck with Seri...and now we can't get him off our books.

Can't hate TK because Josh King chose Everton over Fulham.   Hell, I'd choose Everton over Fulham. 

I also don't hate him because this was late in the transfer window.   Josh King has proven HE wants to wait until all offers are in before he makes a decision.

It is what it is.  Players and their agents are waiting for better deals from better clubs.   Those that aren't, probably aren't EPL quality to begin with.

Fulham are a top tier championship side/lower tier...trying to get back... EPL side.

If we stay up, I'll be elated...but if we go back down...the sky isn't falling.    I don't see any resemblance to Fulham and...say Sunderland.


Statto

#32
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 02:03:06 AM
Quote from: Statto on February 02, 2021, 01:11:04 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

We have had a very good window to find the money to prepare for the Championship, writing off over valued players down to their correct value. Scott Parker's job is to build a squad that can get promoted and stay in the premier league, as we can now keep our players for next season he has more time to improve. Now, Scott Parker has 18 months to build a premier league unit, rather than buying a striker and expecting instant improvement from the team in one week, slow gradual continuous improvement without reinforcements is what Scott Parker needs to do.

Perhaps it will work out even better, and TK's cunning moves in the last couple of years will lead to us spending not just 18 months, but many years outside the top flight, giving SP even longer to build a premier league unit. We're lucky to have a DOF with such a fantastic long-term vision, whilst other clubs' DOFs are making the schoolboy error of just avoiding relegation and staying in the PL.

WBA is making the schoolboy error of throwing their money away trying to avoid relegation. Of course, it might work, but more likely it won't work and they will have to cut the budget next season.

If Tony Khan can give Scott Parker the almost identical team as last season (with Hector, Kongolo, Robinson, and Josh Majo all season, Tete instead of Christie, Tosin instead of Ream, and Lemina instead of Arter), then isn't it far to say that Tony Khan has given Scott Parker the squad to get promoted, and if we don't Parker is to Blame.

Lemima definitely won't be here next season. Are you mad?

I also doubt Maja will. Option price is £10m apparently.

Anyway, maybe West Brom's attempt to stay up won't work. But did it cross your mind that maybe in the 2021/22 play-off final we won't be gifted a goal by an out of position keeper, and maybe our attempt to come back up won't work either?

BarryP

Quote from: Matt10 on February 02, 2021, 01:58:36 AM
It's like there's no discussion anymore. It's basically if you are anti-TK, you are going to build your narrative about it - no matter what. If you're pro-TK, you're going to do the same.

This is why I choose the player's side in these situations because it's not biased, and not built on an agenda to improving only our club.

From everyone's honest perspective here. If you are a player that is most likely going to leave a club, are you going to wait for the best deal possible - or going to pounce as soon as the right club, right contract, and right playing time are in for you?

Guess what? Fulham is not your destination.

We're bottom of the table, we already have a striker, we have supporters that hate our DOF, and we have a DOF that has a side business.

Those are the facts. So don't give me this business about starting it earlier in the window. Make an offer that can't be refused, so it better be very high contract amount and playing time that can't be challenged. Does not exist, and any DOF doing that would upset the supporters even more. Especially with a track record like Fulham in overspending.

So, the player waits till deadline day. Multiple clubs come in, even at the last minute, sweetening their deals. Some of them aren't at the bottom of the table, have better supporter-DOF interaction and better DOF overall. What do you as a player sacrifice to make it happen? Playing time, contract amount or something else?

The options get more and more limited, and a decision has to be made. Fulham is not a high priority no matter what we want to believe or want to fabricate.

Those who join us when we are in the predicament we are in should be applauded. They know what they're getting into. We're in a relegation battle, and you're fighting to start - then fighting the pressure to perform. As supporters our track record is laughing at those who attempted this feat. From Nordtveit to Markovic, these players committed to us the last time we were up - and we paid them no mind when the season was over. Will it be the same for Maja? Who knows. What I do know is that I respect the player for taking a chance on our club, full well knowing what the facts are.

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"Never give in. Never give in. Never, never, never, never--in nothing, great or small, large or petty--never give in, except to convictions of honor and good sense."

The Rational Fan

#34
Quote from: Statto on February 02, 2021, 02:06:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 02:03:06 AM
Quote from: Statto on February 02, 2021, 01:11:04 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

We have had a very good window to find the money to prepare for the Championship, writing off over valued players down to their correct value. Scott Parker's job is to build a squad that can get promoted and stay in the premier league, as we can now keep our players for next season he has more time to improve. Now, Scott Parker has 18 months to build a premier league unit, rather than buying a striker and expecting instant improvement from the team in one week, slow gradual continuous improvement without reinforcements is what Scott Parker needs to do.

Perhaps it will work out even better, and TK's cunning moves in the last couple of years will lead to us spending not just 18 months, but many years outside the top flight, giving SP even longer to build a premier league unit. We're lucky to have a DOF with such a fantastic long-term vision, whilst other clubs' DOFs are making the schoolboy error of just avoiding relegation and staying in the PL.

WBA is making the schoolboy error of throwing their money away trying to avoid relegation. Of course, it might work, but more likely it won't work and they will have to cut the budget next season.

If Tony Khan can give Scott Parker the almost identical team as last season (with Hector, Kongolo, Robinson, and Josh Majo all season, Tete instead of Christie, Tosin instead of Ream, and Lemina instead of Arter), then isn't it far to say that Tony Khan has given Scott Parker the squad to get promoted, and if we don't Parker is to Blame.

Lemima definitely won't be here next season. Are you mad?

I also doubt Maja will. Option price is £10m apparently.

Anyway, maybe West Brom's attempt to stay up won't work. But did it cross your mind that maybe in the 2021/22 play-off final we won't be gifted a goal by an out of position keeper, and maybe our attempt to come back up won't work either?

True, we need a championship squad that scores twice as many goals as it concedes so that we avoid the playoffs. I think Rodak; Tete, Hector, Tosin, Robinson; Reed, Cairney, Onamah; Reid, Mitro, Cav, and a good squad can do that.

I'm very happy WBA has spent big; because they will be selling like crazy if they go down and so luckly for us they won't get an automatic promotion place. Sheffield United haven't spent and still in a strong position for auto-promote.


AnOldBrownie

Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 02:17:48 AM
Quote from: Statto on February 02, 2021, 02:06:15 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 02:03:06 AM
Quote from: Statto on February 02, 2021, 01:11:04 AM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on February 02, 2021, 01:03:58 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2021, 12:49:55 AM
A very disappointing window, a very bad day for the club, and the outcome is that as it stands we could be worse off than we were before the Window opened.
The only ray of hope is that the new forward Maja can find the net more often than who we already have.
But seeing as we were the only club enquiring about him gives me cause for concern. Seeing as we will be playing against Newcastle with Calum Wilson leading the line, and Everton who now have Josh King in their ranks of forwards against us, either of them would have boosted our ranks up front. But instead they will both be playing against us, and if that was not enough we ended up amongst others losing the likes of Kebano and Kamara for the rest of the season. So that to me makes us worse off on the face of it.
Have I missed something here, somebody will need to explain that to me. No fault of Maja he could even do a half decent job but is it enough, I would not rely on it, so I am very disappointed as I feel like somebody has urinated down my back whilst telling me it's raining.

We have had a very good window to find the money to prepare for the Championship, writing off over valued players down to their correct value. Scott Parker's job is to build a squad that can get promoted and stay in the premier league, as we can now keep our players for next season he has more time to improve. Now, Scott Parker has 18 months to build a premier league unit, rather than buying a striker and expecting instant improvement from the team in one week, slow gradual continuous improvement without reinforcements is what Scott Parker needs to do.

Perhaps it will work out even better, and TK's cunning moves in the last couple of years will lead to us spending not just 18 months, but many years outside the top flight, giving SP even longer to build a premier league unit. We're lucky to have a DOF with such a fantastic long-term vision, whilst other clubs' DOFs are making the schoolboy error of just avoiding relegation and staying in the PL.

WBA is making the schoolboy error of throwing their money away trying to avoid relegation. Of course, it might work, but more likely it won't work and they will have to cut the budget next season.

If Tony Khan can give Scott Parker the almost identical team as last season (with Hector, Kongolo, Robinson, and Josh Majo all season, Tete instead of Christie, Tosin instead of Ream, and Lemina instead of Arter), then isn't it far to say that Tony Khan has given Scott Parker the squad to get promoted, and if we don't Parker is to Blame.

Lemima definitely won't be here next season. Are you mad?

I also doubt Maja will. Option price is £10m apparently.

Anyway, maybe West Brom's attempt to stay up won't work. But did it cross your mind that maybe in the 2021/22 play-off final we won't be gifted a goal by an out of position keeper, and maybe our attempt to come back up won't work either?

True, we need a championship squad that scores twice as many goals as it concedes so that we avoid the playoffs. I think Rodak; Tete, Hector, Tosin, Robinson; Reed, Cairney, Onamah; Reid, Mitro, Cav, and a good squad can do that.

Agreed.   That side is better than our playoff side.  I also think we'll buy Maja.

clarkey

If anyone on here thinks we will be keeping the same squad if we go down then just dream on.We are totally reliant at the moment on our GK, Anderson, Anguissa and  Lemina.They are a good spine.But all will depart. Tosin too I expect, and Robinson possibly as well, as he looks excellent.

We needed a striker in September/October basically, but in preparing the squad last summer Parker failed to spot that we would.It was compounded by playing such a negative line up.We have struggled to put games to bed for over a year now.

The failure to bring in even one tested and tried goal scorer has left us staring at a long run of defeats, and then a decimation of the squad again.All teams around us are improving.We have peaked.

We have said all along we stay as we are,but we were bluffing, we tried and showed our desperate hand, we have traduced our reputtation and morale. Desperately poor.

The Rational Fan

#37
Quote from: clarkey on February 02, 2021, 05:04:31 AM
If anyone on here thinks we will be keeping the same squad if we go down then just dream on.We are totally reliant at the moment on our GK, Anderson, Anguissa and  Lemina.They are a good spine.But all will depart. Tosin too I expect, and Robinson possibly as well, as he looks excellent.

We needed a striker in September/October basically, but in preparing the squad last summer Parker failed to spot that we would.It was compounded by playing such a negative line up.We have struggled to put games to bed for over a year now.

The failure to bring in even one tested and tried goal scorer has left us staring at a long run of defeats, and then a decimation of the squad again.All teams around us are improving.We have peaked.

We have said all along we stay as we are,but we were bluffing, we tried and showed our desperate hand, we have traduced our reputtation and morale. Desperately poor.

Tony Khan has planned to get relegated and keep the squad together. Contracted players, like Anguissa, will be staying at the club, unless they get a very big transfer fee. If Anguissa gets a very big transfer fee, Tony Khan can reinforce in several positions on deadline day, hopefully we get the right mix of players staying and reinforcements. As for Tosin and Robinson, I believe TK wants to get promoted with quality EPL defenders that know each other.


Arthur

Quote from: Matt10 on February 02, 2021, 01:58:36 AM
It's like there's no discussion anymore. It's basically if you are anti-TK, you are going to build your narrative about it - no matter what. If you're pro-TK, you're going to do the same.

I'm unsure there are too many on here who rate Tony Khan as highly as a good number of those who are anti-Tony Khan rate him little or not at all.

I am not without reservations as to whether Tony Khan is striking an acceptable balance between financial prudence and success on the football field, but I find the analysis of some on here to be so driven towards apportioning as much blame as possible upon our DoF that I take what is, ostensibly, a pro-T.K. stance to try to ensure he is given a 'fair hearing'. It wouldn't surprise me if there were others who do the same.

The reason there is so little discussion, in my opinion, is that the arguments have been gone over time and again. Transfer windows come and go and yet the content of threads about our DoF is easily predictable, however well or badly the window may have gone.

YankeeJim

Reading this thread has convinced me that TK is an idiot. Rather than trying to find a striker or reducing the payroll by jettisoning deadwood, he should come on to these threads and get the really great minds of football to solve all of Fulham problems. If you doubt me, just look at how much some on here know about the inner workings of the club and all the moves that TC has made. They are not only great footballing brains they are clairvoyant as well. Look at all the teams that picked up great strikers for a pittance. Oh, wait.............
Its not that I could and others couldn't.
Its that I did and others didn't.