The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

[Bassey the warrior]

ARELOA HAVING WEST HAM MEDICAL

PSG goalkeeper Alphonse Areola is in London for a medical with West Ham United.

A deal has been agreed with PSG over an initial loan with an option to buy. Personal terms have been agreed in principle.

Areola spent last season on loan with Fulham. PSG are happy to let him go following the arrival of Gianluigi Donnarumma.

This is the one I was most sad to lose. Best keeper we've had imo. Amazing that all these players that "failed" us last year are getting picked up by premier league teams. Almost as if the recruitment was good, and the management was terrible...hmm

Brilliant keeper and a real coup for West Ham.

[Bracken White]

Good to read that MS is seeking to give Mitrovic some proper support now. For me, both Mitro & TC are key players & spurious talk of them leaving FFC is, in my view, daft. MS seems to be looking to plug gaps that we all know existed & with some attractive football planned, it could be a positive season in the Championship, & don't we all need that!

[filham]

The only players I want sold are Seri, MLM, Knockaert & Fabri. We will need a full squad with it being a longer season & the threat of a Covid outbreak within the Club.

Would just suggest that we may still have too many center backs left with Tosin, Mawson, Hector Ream, Kongolo and Odoi.

[H3Matt]

The only players I want sold are Seri, MLM, Knockaert & Fabri. We will need a full squad with it being a longer season & the threat of a Covid outbreak within the Club.

Would just suggest that we may still have too many center backs left with Tosin, Mawson, Hector Ream, Kongolo and Odoi.

I'd keep all minus one of either Hector or Mawson, to be loaned out. Odoi is a good versatile player who can fill in at RB and LB. Ream, while not great, can fill in LB too.
None of these players will be on huge PL wages either, especially as every player's contract had a relegation clause for a wage reduction. We'd ideally need to offload someone like Anguissa/Seri/both to free up FFP.

[The Rock]

 Fulham are now favourite to sign Rodrigo Muniz Flag of Brazil from Flamengo on a permanent deal. Cottagers have offered €6M up front plus €2M in a second instalment, letting the Rio de Janeiro side keep 20% of a future sale. #FFC #Boro #Flamengo (Twitter)

Interesting if true that we were willing to pay almost double to have a contract that was "backloaded" rather than this somewhat cut rate deal to pay up front.

[Deeping_white]

Seeing Areola in a West Ham shirt hurts more than Andersen in a Palace one I think. He could've been our first choice keeper for the best part of a decade if we'd stayed up last season and been able to buy him

[General]

Seeing Areola in a West Ham shirt hurts more than Andersen in a Palace one I think. He could've been our first choice keeper for the best part of a decade if we'd stayed up last season and been able to buy him

Agreed. He was my favourite player last year and not only pulled off remarkable saves but had class in every aspect of his life. Think he would've happily stayed had we stayed up. Wish Parker had been replaced earlier in the season as really think with someone with more nous of the league and more experience as a manager would've kept us up.

[Bracken White]

Harsh realities of being relegated - but time to look forward, things seem to be taking a bit of shape now.

[junior white]

Seeing Areola in a West Ham shirt hurts more than Andersen in a Palace one I think. He could've been our first choice keeper for the best part of a decade if we'd stayed up last season and been able to buy him

Agree that's the one thats done me personally

[junior white]

The only players I want sold are Seri, MLM, Knockaert & Fabri. We will need a full squad with it being a longer season & the threat of a Covid outbreak within the Club.

Would just suggest that we may still have too many center backs left with Tosin, Mawson, Hector Ream, Kongolo and Odoi.

While he can play at CB i still see Odoi as a full back. So for me we have those 5 plus MLM as it stands

[Twig]

I know its been said on here before, but with FFP... if you signed someone for 6m on 3 year contract... does it go down as 6, 0, 0 or 2, 2, 2 or does it all depend on all how you split the payments

Typically, I believe, the payment would be split equally over the length of a player's contract - so £2M per year in the example you quote.

If the Club wants to pay more of the outstanding sum sooner, I believe it can -  in your example again, if FFP permitted, the club could write off the remaining £4M in the second year of the player's stay.

If the player leaves the club before the expiry of his contract, any outstanding amount has to be accounted for in that season - of course, whatever fee is received for the player can be used to offset the remaining debt.

Amortisation, and its impact on FFP, is, as others are saying, conceivably the reason why we have held onto a player such as Seri despite his not playing for us for the past two years.

The situation with Seri, however, is far from clear because the deal with Nice was a joint one involving Le Marchand. Whilst the overall fee - supposedly in the region of £28M - represented the actual evaluation of their combined worth, we were asked to over-pay for Le Marchand and under-pay for Seri in order that Nice avoid some sort of bonus outlay to Seri.

It's also the reason we extended Fabri, MLM's contract at the end of the season too. So for FFP purpose the fees drop per season as they are calculating it over a longer period

Only forward seasons you mean?, cant change past seasons surely ?

If only forward as i suspect then the difference would not be massive but every little helps i guess

No so FFP wise the whole deal will be reported differently, so for example if you sign a player 30 million over a 5 year deal it will cost you 6 million a season, say then at the end of contract we extend the contract by 1 more year. That deal will be reported FFP wise as costing 5million a year rather than 6 million a year for the whole duration of the contract. Therefore extending any contract will affect the reporting for previous years too

Sorry but I don't think that's correct, it would require a retrospective amendment to out historical accounts and I can't see how that would make sense or be permitted. As I understand, a contract extension only changes the amount remaining to be amortised. So, as a simple example, if the contract extension is triggered when there is one year left on the contract then that amount would be divided in half over two years.

[Deeping_white]

https://twitter.com/venecasagrande/status/1420856626450505733?s=21

"Fulham's CEO talks to Flamengo, sews the last details and approaches the hiring of Rodrigo Muniz"

Apparently it's circa £6m up front and a 5 year contract so shouldn't hamstring us with regards to FFP

[Somerset Fulham]

Mackintosh, eh?

There's a blast from the past..

[TXWhite]

"The current coach of the team, Portuguese Marco Silva, wants the Brazilian center forward in his squad and even called the athlete to talk to him, which made all the difference in the choice."

(https://twitter.com/venecasagrande/status/1420858779671973898)

[The Rock]

Mackintosh, eh?

There's a blast from the past..

Interesting tongue and cheek observation. I had to look on fulhamfc.com to see whether AM was still at the club. It appears he is still there.

Where's Tony and his wrestling friends? Earlier in the summer we heard the kid was going to be relegated to the naughty corner with Craig Kline, but is he really down for the count with Fulham recruitment?

MASSIVE step forward if so. Put him behind the bar at McBride's at half time!

[General]

Mackintosh, eh?

There's a blast from the past..

Interesting tongue and cheek observation. I had to look on fulhamfc.com to see whether AM was still at the club. It appears he is still there.

Where's Tony and his wrestling friends? Earlier in the summer we heard the kid was going to be relegated to the naughty corner with Craig Kline, but is he really down for the count with Fulham recruitment?

MASSIVE step forward if so. Put him behind the bar at McBride's at half time!

Didn't we sign someone else for the recruitment team as well as TK last season or recently? Believe we did so Tony could have help and spread himself across his other ventured.

[General]

Scratch that. The guy came in Jan 2020 and had left by Sept the same year.

https://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2020/september/Pereira-Departs/

[Somerset Fulham]

There was a rumour of the guy rejoining us a month or so ago, which is why you may have gotten mixed up.  He was also Joka's number two back in the day.

[Craven Mad]

Watford's pursuit of Grimes is surely linked to Will Hughes running down his contract. (ie Grimes is basically a replacement for the outgoing Hughes)

If Watford get Grimes, I hope we turn our attention straight to Will Hughes (who Watford seem to accept is leaving this summer, and was linked to us earlier in the summer anyway).

Hughes was Silva's first signing at Watford, lives in London and would be a great signing for us.

[FFC1987]

I've been plugging we go for Hughes for years. Would love him here but I can't see it. A lower half prem side will snap him up.