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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM

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Deeping_white

https://twitter.com/venecasagrande/status/1423402466863980550?s=21

Translates as: Flamengo and Fulham began exchanging the draft contract so that the sale of Rodrigo Muniz to the English team is finally enshrined. The parties will now check the documents. The striker's contract with the London team will be for five seasons.

ken 44

Nice one Deeping ahead of the game. Pleased to get this over the line and
personnaly believe this has been stage managed for maximum media
coverage.

Dave @ Crave

Vene Casagrande - 'In the sale of Rodrigo Muniz to Fulham, in the final moments of the transaction, Flamengo managed to keep another 5%. In the initial agreement, I would keep 20%. Now it will keep 25%.

Operation summary: Fla will sell 75% of the attacker for € 8 million, around R$ 50 million at the current price.'

Looks like we had to put a cherry on top at the end but it now appears done subject to quarantine and medical. That is going to drag on as he is still isolating until Monday next week after his positive test. He then needs to travel and quarantine for 10 days before the deal can be completed. It would be nice of the club to announce a deal has been agreed subject to medical etc but I expect they will make us wait until the Hull game before making an announcement.


Statto

#1163
Quote from: dfwilson84 on August 06, 2021, 09:27:58 AM
Vene Casagrande - 'In the sale of Rodrigo Muniz to Fulham, in the final moments of the transaction, Flamengo managed to keep another 5%. In the initial agreement, I would keep 20%. Now it will keep 25%.

Operation summary: Fla will sell 75% of the attacker for € 8 million, around R$ 50 million at the current price.'

Looks like we had to put a cherry on top at the end but it now appears done subject to quarantine and medical. That is going to drag on as he is still isolating until Monday next week after his positive test. He then needs to travel and quarantine for 10 days before the deal can be completed. It would be nice of the club to announce a deal has been agreed subject to medical etc but I expect they will make us wait until the Hull game before making an announcement.
Might make more sense to do the medical in Brazil on Monday and get the deal done, then bring him over. Would be a big ask for him to spend 10 days in a quarantine hotel next to Heathrow if the deal isn't even confirmed and we might end up sending him back. Although you do have to wonder if there isn't some exemption anyway.

Dave @ Crave

Not sure about exemptions as I read that Varane is currently in quarantine ahead of his move to Utd. I know there are ways of ending quarantine early if you are travelling from amber list countries but Brazil is red so I think the general rule is 10 days.

I did read before that the plan was for Muniz to have half his medical in Brazil and the rest over here. Perhaps we would need to send people over there to complete the full medical and they would run into the same quarantine issues?

filham

Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2021, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: dfwilson84 on August 06, 2021, 09:27:58 AM
Vene Casagrande - 'In the sale of Rodrigo Muniz to Fulham, in the final moments of the transaction, Flamengo managed to keep another 5%. In the initial agreement, I would keep 20%. Now it will keep 25%.

Operation summary: Fla will sell 75% of the attacker for € 8 million, around R$ 50 million at the current price.'

Looks like we had to put a cherry on top at the end but it now appears done subject to quarantine and medical. That is going to drag on as he is still isolating until Monday next week after his positive test. He then needs to travel and quarantine for 10 days before the deal can be completed. It would be nice of the club to announce a deal has been agreed subject to medical etc but I expect they will make us wait until the Hull game before making an announcement.
Might make more sense to do the medical in Brazil on Monday and get the deal done, then bring him over. Would be a big ask for him to spend 10 days in a quarantine hotel next to Heathrow if the deal isn't even confirmed and we might end up sending him back. Although you do have to wonder if there isn't some exemption anyway.
A medical in Brazil would mean sending our medical team to Brazil then they and the player would be subject to quarantine on return to the UK.
I assume thoe late signings on transfer deadline day are made " subject to medical". No reason this one shouldn't be the same.


Statto

Would be surprised if we need to send people out there from London to do medical checks. Think it was just MAF who only trusted one doctor...

junior white

Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2021, 09:37:57 AM
Quote from: dfwilson84 on August 06, 2021, 09:27:58 AM
Vene Casagrande - 'In the sale of Rodrigo Muniz to Fulham, in the final moments of the transaction, Flamengo managed to keep another 5%. In the initial agreement, I would keep 20%. Now it will keep 25%.

Operation summary: Fla will sell 75% of the attacker for € 8 million, around R$ 50 million at the current price.'

Looks like we had to put a cherry on top at the end but it now appears done subject to quarantine and medical. That is going to drag on as he is still isolating until Monday next week after his positive test. He then needs to travel and quarantine for 10 days before the deal can be completed. It would be nice of the club to announce a deal has been agreed subject to medical etc but I expect they will make us wait until the Hull game before making an announcement.
Might make more sense to do the medical in Brazil on Monday and get the deal done, then bring him over. Would be a big ask for him to spend 10 days in a quarantine hotel next to Heathrow if the deal isn't even confirmed and we might end up sending him back. Although you do have to wonder if there isn't some exemption anyway.
I agree, although I found out the other day it isnt just hotels at the airports that are used. People get ferried to other hotels around the capital apparently. The Intercontenental at the O2 is or was being used i was told i was quite surprised

FFCFOREVER

Latest from an italian website.

nother hit for #FulhamFC.  Today the arrival of  Rodrigo Muniz from #Flamengo will be defined.  Total agreement is reached.   8 million for the 2001 class center forward


Statto

So for this Brazilian we're paying EUR 8m, about £6.8m, and giving them a 25% sell-on clause... Not bad. We paid over £5m for AK47.

FFCFOREVER

Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2021, 02:36:56 PM
So for this Brazilian we're paying EUR 8m, about £6.8m, and giving them a 25% sell-on clause... Not bad. We paid over £5m for AK47.
Not bad at all. And hopefully reclaim about 4m for AK if his transfer to Aris goes through.

simplyfulham

Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2021, 02:36:56 PM
So for this Brazilian we're paying EUR 8m, about £6.8m, and giving them a 25% sell-on clause... Not bad. We paid over £5m for AK47.

The majority of sell on clauses these days only apply to the profit as well, so 25% on anything over £6.8m when sold.

Although that's not all cases and I clearly have no idea whether that applies to this transfer.


Lordedmundo

Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 06, 2021, 02:38:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2021, 02:36:56 PM
So for this Brazilian we're paying EUR 8m, about £6.8m, and giving them a 25% sell-on clause... Not bad. We paid over £5m for AK47.
Not bad at all. And hopefully reclaim about 4m for AK if his transfer to Aris goes through.

There is absolutely no chance whatsover that Aris Thessaloniki can afford to pay £4m for Kamara. They just do not spend that amount of money on players:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aris-thessaloniki/transferrekorde/verein/605

The club may get £1m - but more likely half that.

FFCFOREVER

Quote from: Lordedmundo on August 06, 2021, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 06, 2021, 02:38:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2021, 02:36:56 PM
So for this Brazilian we're paying EUR 8m, about £6.8m, and giving them a 25% sell-on clause... Not bad. We paid over £5m for AK47.
Not bad at all. And hopefully reclaim about 4m for AK if his transfer to Aris goes through.

There is absolutely no chance whatsover that Aris Thessaloniki can afford to pay £4m for Kamara. They just do not spend that amount of money on players:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aris-thessaloniki/transferrekorde/verein/605

The club may get £1m - but more likely half that.
Well there's always a first time for everything I suppose. That's if it's true of course.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/2708591/2021/08/04/transfer-news-fulham-aboubakar-kamara/%3famp

Lighthouse

Plenty of movement elsewhere. Boro have signed a South American player. Lots of movement around us.
The above IS NOT A LEGAL DOCUMENT. It is an opinion.

We may yet hear the horse talk.

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Asotosyios

Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 06, 2021, 03:28:41 PM
Quote from: Lordedmundo on August 06, 2021, 03:23:44 PM
Quote from: FFCFOREVER on August 06, 2021, 02:38:19 PM
Quote from: Statto on August 06, 2021, 02:36:56 PM
So for this Brazilian we're paying EUR 8m, about £6.8m, and giving them a 25% sell-on clause... Not bad. We paid over £5m for AK47.
Not bad at all. And hopefully reclaim about 4m for AK if his transfer to Aris goes through.

There is absolutely no chance whatsover that Aris Thessaloniki can afford to pay £4m for Kamara. They just do not spend that amount of money on players:
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/aris-thessaloniki/transferrekorde/verein/605

The club may get £1m - but more likely half that.
Well there's always a first time for everything I suppose. That's if it's true of course.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/theathletic.com/2708591/2021/08/04/transfer-news-fulham-aboubakar-kamara/%3famp
I've said it before - Aris doesn't have that kind of money and everyone in Greece (their fans as well) is more than surprised by that amount.

A loan probably makes the most sense or a sale for a small amount (500k?) and perhaps a percentage of the next sale.

Just ask yourself this question: why would anyone pay £4m for Kamara now?

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Mullers OG

I can't see any club offering more than a minimal fee and perhaps a sell on percentage. We need to get some of the peripheral squad players off the books. With Cavaleiro, Knockhaert, Kebano etc there's no room for Kamara. Anything the club can get for him will be a bonus.

Lyle from Hangeland

Pereira has been sold by West Brom to Hilal in Saudi Arabia.


Somerset Fulham


JEEVES

Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on August 06, 2021, 06:26:06 PM
Pereira has been sold by West Brom to Hilal in Saudi Arabia.

That's odd. Could have got a prem move surely? That's mad