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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM

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MickyAdamsFamily

Muniz is 20 and O'bafemi is 21. These are speculative investments, and different types of strikers than Mitro. They've only scored a handful of senior goals between them. They'll possibly play alongside Mitro if we're chasing a game (I think we may see Muniz quite a bit), or replace him late when we're holding a lead and want to have some pace to keep the opposition defenders occupied. I believe Silva wants to keep Mitro in the team and in the center of our attack

Steven Ageroad

Quote from: Ara's bacon crisps on August 16, 2021, 03:49:58 PM
Quote from: FulhamStu on August 16, 2021, 03:43:35 PM
We should all know by now how things change with transfers, often last minute, often agent driven asking for more money, brinkmanship, the whole works.  All things are possible and I for one really enjoy WSW posts and all the other ITK people we have had in the past and have now.  Nobody at the club can be certain of what will happen so it's pretty difficult for any ITK to always get it right.
Spot on. Well said.

Totally agree, just enjoy the rumours.

General

#1502
Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 16, 2021, 05:20:36 PM
Like I said, if someone offered 25m for Mitro I think we take it. But I can't see that happening and he seemed to enjoy it on Saturday.

Can Muniz/Obafemi play on the wing do we know

Definitely nor selling mitro for me in a decade of Sundays. What a thought. Do you want guaranteed goals and to get promoted? Why would you sell such a proven asset. Its why we spent so much on him in the first place.

Don't forget we didn't get out of the championship for years even though we attempted cherry picking all the best strikers in the league at the time, Chris Martin, Ross mccormack.  You can't buy that level of quality and commitment to the club these days. Absurd to sell him. Especially when in Silva we may have a manager who'd know how to make the best of him and the rest of our attack if we were to be promoted. Sorry, know that's a strong opinion I hold but feel you've approached this with a relatively short term view point.. both historically and re the clubs future.

He's not washed up or no good. He wasn't played last season in the premiership and clearly had somewhat of a fallout with Parker, before that he scored 26 goals in the league we're currently in. There are clear and evident reasons why he didn't perform last season. Has nothing to do with his quality and ability to produce results, especially at this level.

Mitros record for us, despite two relegation seasons is averaging just and I mean JUST below a goal every other game and he's only 26. Plenty more to come from him. He also loves the club.

Where's loyalty these days to good players.


ZM15

Quote from: Cookie6262 on August 16, 2021, 04:49:10 PM
The Muniz deal appears to be done and the rumours surrounding Obafemi seem genuine.... Does anybody else worry this may mean Mitro will be off?? I like the sound of Muniz and I really like what I have seen from Obafemi, strong quick hard working... I would be happy with them to upfront, I just think we wouldn't signing two strikers if Mitro is staying, a little weird.

Added depth. It's going to be a long seasons.
Also we need a ready-made squad for the premier league (if we are to promote) and having three strikers adapted into the team helps with that.

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General

#1505
Quote from: ZM15 on August 16, 2021, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: Cookie6262 on August 16, 2021, 04:49:10 PM
The Muniz deal appears to be done and the rumours surrounding Obafemi seem genuine.... Does anybody else worry this may mean Mitro will be off?? I like the sound of Muniz and I really like what I have seen from Obafemi, strong quick hard working... I would be happy with them to upfront, I just think we wouldn't signing two strikers if Mitro is staying, a little weird.

Added depth. It's going to be a long seasons.
Also we need a ready-made squad for the premier league (if we are to promote) and having three strikers adapted into the team helps with that.

Welcome to the board ZM15. Agreed.  If anyone were to go it would be knockaert and kamara which seems to be happening anyway. So two for two.


PaulJ123

Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 16, 2021, 05:20:36 PM
Like I said, if someone offered 25m for Mitro I think we take it. But I can't see that happening and he seemed to enjoy it on Saturday.

Can Muniz/Obafemi play on the wing do we know

Definitely nor selling mitro for me in a decade of Sundays. What a thought. Do you want guaranteed goals and to get promoted? Why would you sell such a proven asset. Its why we spent so much on him in the first place.

Don't forget we didn't get out of the championship for years even though we attempted cherry picking all the best strikers in the league at the time, Chris Martin, Ross mccormack.  You can't buy that level of quality and commitment to the club these days. Absurd to sell him. Especially when in Silva we may have a manager who'd know how to make the best of him and the rest of our attack if we were to be promoted. Sorry, know that's a strong opinion I hold but feel you've approached this with a relatively short term view point.. both historically and re the clubs future.

He's not washed up or no good. He wasn't played last season in the premiership and clearly had somewhat of a fallout with Parker, before that he scored 26 goals in the league we're currently in. There are clear and evident reasons why he didn't perform last season. Has nothing to do with his quality and ability to produce results, especially at this level.

Mitros record for us, despite two relegation seasons is averaging just and I mean JUST below a goal every other game and he's only 26. Plenty more to come from him. He also loves the club.

Where's loyalty these days to good players.

I didn't say I'd take it, I said I think we'd take it.

I love Mitro but equally, he hasn't looked himself for the best part of a year now. But overall, no I wouldn't get rid of him.

General

Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 16, 2021, 05:43:25 PM
Quote from: General on August 16, 2021, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 16, 2021, 05:20:36 PM
Like I said, if someone offered 25m for Mitro I think we take it. But I can't see that happening and he seemed to enjoy it on Saturday.

Can Muniz/Obafemi play on the wing do we know

Definitely nor selling mitro for me in a decade of Sundays. What a thought. Do you want guaranteed goals and to get promoted? Why would you sell such a proven asset. Its why we spent so much on him in the first place.

Don't forget we didn't get out of the championship for years even though we attempted cherry picking all the best strikers in the league at the time, Chris Martin, Ross mccormack.  You can't buy that level of quality and commitment to the club these days. Absurd to sell him. Especially when in Silva we may have a manager who'd know how to make the best of him and the rest of our attack if we were to be promoted. Sorry, know that's a strong opinion I hold but feel you've approached this with a relatively short term view point.. both historically and re the clubs future.

He's not washed up or no good. He wasn't played last season in the premiership and clearly had somewhat of a fallout with Parker, before that he scored 26 goals in the league we're currently in. There are clear and evident reasons why he didn't perform last season. Has nothing to do with his quality and ability to produce results, especially at this level.

Mitros record for us, despite two relegation seasons is averaging just and I mean JUST below a goal every other game and he's only 26. Plenty more to come from him. He also loves the club.

Where's loyalty these days to good players.

I didn't say I'd take it, I said I think we'd take it.

I love Mitro but equally, he hasn't looked himself for the best part of a year now. But overall, no I wouldn't get rid of him.

Hardly anyone in the world has looked themselves over the last year, what with a global pandemic going on. Parker as a manager wasn't good at getting the most out of attacking players either.

Let's give it a bit more time. I'd be very surprised if we got rid of mitro. We don't need to sell him and he's a key player for us and proven. Likely to say bye to abou and Knockaert and then the likes of neeskens before mitro is considered. Would be completely counterproductive to get rid of a player like him considering how hard they are to come by.

bobby01

Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on August 16, 2021, 05:25:29 PM
Muniz is 20 and O'bafemi is 21. These are speculative investments, and different types of strikers than Mitro. They've only scored a handful of senior goals between them. They'll possibly play alongside Mitro if we're chasing a game (I think we may see Muniz quite a bit), or replace him late when we're holding a lead and want to have some pace to keep the opposition defenders occupied. I believe Silva wants to keep Mitro in the team and in the center of our attack


Muniz is signed now I believe obafemi is still speculation, but as abou has gone we are currently in the same situation with 2 strikers. But I agree with what you have said above and feel it is a decent gamble by us.
Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.


Steven Ageroad

Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
Mitro missed a penalty against Scotland that would have sent his country to the Euros, he also missed a very important penalty for us, his confidence was shot and it showed with his performances for us, perhaps his relationship with Parker did deteriorate over last season but he seems to have got his mojo back and after his flukey goal on Saturday he seems up for it.
I also think that not many teams would pay good money for him on last season's performance.

Steven Ageroad

Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
Mitro missed a penalty against Scotland that would have sent his country to the Euros, he also missed a very important penalty for us, his confidence was shot and it showed with his performances for us, perhaps his relationship with Parker did deteriorate over last season but he seems to have got his mojo back and after his flukey goal on Saturday he seems up for it.
I also think that not many teams would pay good money for him on last season's performance.



Just realised I should have posted this comment on "Mitro Enough" sorry.

Statto

#1511
Quote from: Cookie6262 on August 16, 2021, 04:49:10 PM
The Muniz deal appears to be done and the rumours surrounding Obafemi seem genuine.... Does anybody else worry this may mean Mitro will be off?? I like the sound of Muniz and I really like what I have seen from Obafemi, strong quick hard working... I would be happy with them to upfront, I just think we wouldn't signing two strikers if Mitro is staying, a little weird.

Don't think Muniz is a replacement for Mitrovic for the simple reason that Muniz is nowhere near that calibre of player. Going on the highlight reels which are pretty shocking, I don't even expect Muniz to be starting regularly this season. He's going to cost us about £6m, Mitrovic cost about 4 x as much, and there's a reason for that. You get what you pay for.  I think anyone expecting more is going to be severely disappointed. In terms of quality level, Muniz is going to be more around AK47's level, albeit with the advantages that (a) he's younger so has more potential to improve and (b) if/when he stands in for Mitrovic, it will be as the same type of player, so we won't need to fundamentally change our tactics.


b+w geezer

Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Marcel_Gecov

Quote from: b+w geezer on August 17, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Interested to read this. Do you know where we could find a link?

Steven Ageroad

Quote from: b+w geezer on August 17, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Thanks for the confirmation and the interview details. Lots of fans thought that Parker was going to be our saviour at the start of the season but his style of play soon produced negative results and at the end of the season left under a cloud, I wonder what sort of reception Parker will receive when he comes to us with Bournemouth?


bencher

Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 17, 2021, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 17, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Thanks for the confirmation and the interview details. Lots of fans thought that Parker was going to be our saviour at the start of the season but his style of play soon produced negative results and at the end of the season left under a cloud, I wonder what sort of reception Parker will receive when he comes to us with Bournemouth?

I would be disappointed if Parker gets anything less than a respectful reception from our fans. It didn't quite work out last season, and I realise his exit left something of a bad taste for some, but all in all he's no enemy of the club.

PaulJ123

Quote from: bencher on August 17, 2021, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 17, 2021, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 17, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Thanks for the confirmation and the interview details. Lots of fans thought that Parker was going to be our saviour at the start of the season but his style of play soon produced negative results and at the end of the season left under a cloud, I wonder what sort of reception Parker will receive when he comes to us with Bournemouth?

I would be disappointed if Parker gets anything less than a respectful reception from our fans. It didn't quite work out last season, and I realise his exit left something of a bad taste for some, but all in all he's no enemy of the club.

I think given the way he left and the way he took digs at the hierarchy and treated some of this team, he's one person who I wouldn't mind booing myself.

Would absolutely love Mitro to score against Bournemouth.

Fulham 442

Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 17, 2021, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 17, 2021, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 17, 2021, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 17, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Thanks for the confirmation and the interview details. Lots of fans thought that Parker was going to be our saviour at the start of the season but his style of play soon produced negative results and at the end of the season left under a cloud, I wonder what sort of reception Parker will receive when he comes to us with Bournemouth?

I would be disappointed if Parker gets anything less than a respectful reception from our fans. It didn't quite work out last season, and I realise his exit left something of a bad taste for some, but all in all he's no enemy of the club.

I think given the way he left and the way he took digs at the hierarchy and treated some of this team, he's one person who I wouldn't mind booing myself.

Would absolutely love Mitro to score against Bournemouth.
:plus one:


Jem

Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 17, 2021, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 17, 2021, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 17, 2021, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 17, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Thanks for the confirmation and the interview details. Lots of fans thought that Parker was going to be our saviour at the start of the season but his style of play soon produced negative results and at the end of the season left under a cloud, I wonder what sort of reception Parker will receive when he comes to us with Bournemouth?

I would be disappointed if Parker gets anything less than a respectful reception from our fans. It didn't quite work out last season, and I realise his exit left something of a bad taste for some, but all in all he's no enemy of the club.

I think given the way he left and the way he took digs at the hierarchy and treated some of this team, he's one person who I wouldn't mind booing myself.

Would absolutely love Mitro to score against Bournemouth.
I suspect and hope Mitro will as well.
"When you're in jail, a good friend will be trying to bail you out. A best friend will be in the cell next to you saying, 'Damn, that was fun'."
― Groucho Marx

bencher

Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 17, 2021, 01:50:47 PM
Quote from: bencher on August 17, 2021, 01:47:39 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 17, 2021, 01:39:15 PM
Quote from: b+w geezer on August 17, 2021, 01:11:27 PM
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 16, 2021, 08:39:01 PM
Did I miss something or was it just speculation on this board that Mitro fell out with Parker.
No he really did, as confirmed by the man himself in clear terms during a long interview with a Serbian newspaper last autumn. The phrase I particularly recall from Mitro-- as translated -- was that their relationship was "beyond repair." The relevant sentences were translated for some of us at the time, on the condition that we kept quiet while both remained at the club. FFC comms were also alerted, as a warning in case our media picked up on the interview. (Less likely that our journos spoke Serbo-Croat than that a Belgrade one try to would cash in here.) Whether there was or wasn't any "repair" to relations later, can only guess, but he does look visibly perkier now.

Thanks for the confirmation and the interview details. Lots of fans thought that Parker was going to be our saviour at the start of the season but his style of play soon produced negative results and at the end of the season left under a cloud, I wonder what sort of reception Parker will receive when he comes to us with Bournemouth?

I would be disappointed if Parker gets anything less than a respectful reception from our fans. It didn't quite work out last season, and I realise his exit left something of a bad taste for some, but all in all he's no enemy of the club.

I think given the way he left and the way he took digs at the hierarchy and treated some of this team, he's one person who I wouldn't mind booing myself.

Would absolutely love Mitro to score against Bournemouth.

With respect, that type of attitude is more akin to the Milwall fans who are much derided on another thread. I would think and hope we are better than that.