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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM

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Blawarmy

Quote from: Blawarmy on August 30, 2021, 12:31:05 PM
I'd be surprised if Carvalho isn't joining now if it's being confirmed Anguissa's having a medical at Napoli.
You'd have to ask Silva as he seems to be after him.

WestSussexWhite

He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.

itombomb

Having watched a lot of Portugal over the last few years I actually don't think Carvalho is a particularly good player. He'd obviously be good at this level, but he's pretty slow and his best position is screening at the base of the midfield playing quite a simple game in possession, and that's an area where we already have Seri and Reed.

I think we'd be falling into the same traps/mistakes we made with Cavaliero and Knockaert - paying over the odds for players who won't be the level required if we do get promoted (or at least we'll have better options available being able to guarantee PL football and wages). And while we need squad depth, we don't really need to upgrade the starting midfield we have.

I'd much rather someone like Grimes, who we know can do a job at this level, and if we do get promoted and we don't think he'll be able to make the step up we can quite easily ship back down to a good Championship team - the basic approach Brighton took with Norwood.


ChesterTheTabby

Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.

And apparently Swansea have turned down a 2.5m bid for Grimes, who honestly probably wants to leave especially for a club going in the direction ours is... the question remaining is - how much is too much for Grimes? Do we go back in for 3.5m or just up it to 5m final offer?
Someone once asked me, "Why Fulham?".
My response, "Well, lad, you just haven't seen the light yet"

Danitar

Quote from: ChesterTheTabby on August 30, 2021, 02:00:07 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.

And apparently Swansea have turned down a 2.5m bid for Grimes, who honestly probably wants to leave especially for a club going in the direction ours is... the question remaining is - how much is too much for Grimes? Do we go back in for 3.5m or just up it to 5m final offer?

About right but I think £4M is about fair so I would put in £3.5M with a £500k promotion bonus

bobby01

Unsubstantiated Twitter rumours that Swansea looking at Mawson
Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.


Deeping_white

Quote from: bobby01 on August 30, 2021, 02:12:34 PM
Unsubstantiated Twitter rumours that Swansea looking at Mawson

It's a fake account, the guy has 77 followers

Thames Bank 1

Offload Fabri, Christie and Hector, as these are not in Silvas plans.
Loan out Sess and Dorset for experience

bobby01

Quote from: Deeping_white on August 30, 2021, 02:19:37 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on August 30, 2021, 02:12:34 PM
Unsubstantiated Twitter rumours that Swansea looking at Mawson

It's a fake account, the guy has 77 followers

👍 I got fooled by walesonline saying they were looking for a cb
Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.


AnOldBrownie

Nathaniel Chalobah would still be my choice if we're bringing in a midfielder.   I think Seri and Harrison both offer the same or more in the holding mid spot(to a Matt Grimes), and William...bloody heck...he's so fricken slow..and 29.   


junior white

Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

jayffc

#2011
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

Do we necessarily need a like for like?
Grimes is a combative creative DM  - similar to Reed - him besides Harrison gives plenty of defensive energy in midfield but also a creative outlet for spreading quick deliveries out wide to the wings. I think that pairing would be great, With Seri and Fab to fight it out for the CAM spot or Seri has shown he too and play as a deep lying creative CM alongside a more physical presence


Also its not Grimes for Anguissa

Its grimes for Anguissa & potentially, reportedly, 12+ million on top

Could put that towards a bigger DM if we really wanted - or it could help with our RB situation or one more wing forward if we wanted to move on any of Knockaert/Kebano etc


grandad

There are only 32 hours of the window left. There will be the usual last hour panic.
Where there's a will there's a wife

bobby01

Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.

AnOldBrownie

Quote from: jayffc on August 30, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

Do we necessarily need a like for like?
Grimes is a combative creative DM  - similar to Reed - him besides Harrison gives plenty of defensive energy in midfield but also a creative outlet for spreading quick deliveries out wide to the wings. I think that pairing would be great, With Seri and Fab to fight it out for the CAM spot or Seri has shown he too and play as a deep lying creative CM alongside a more physical presence

I don't start Grimes over Seri, Onomah or Fabio.   Why would we? We're already using Seri in Grimes role (even if they play it differently).


junior white

Quote from: jayffc on August 30, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

Do we necessarily need a like for like?
Grimes is a combative creative DM  - similar to Reed - him besides Harrison gives plenty of defensive energy in midfield but also a creative outlet for spreading quick deliveries out wide to the wings. I think that pairing would be great, With Seri and Fab to fight it out for the CAM spot or Seri has shown he too and play as a deep lying creative CM alongside a more physical presence
For me yes, i would sign someone to replace Anguissa and leave Seri where he is, as he has been doing well. Say we move him and then he doesnt play well we have then, albeit in a small way, damaged the squad strength. Reed and Seri in the 2 would be great in my mind, JO could replace Anguissa, think he has done well this season, but I still think we need that replacement for Anguissa/Stefjo

jayffc

Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 30, 2021, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 30, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

Do we necessarily need a like for like?
Grimes is a combative creative DM  - similar to Reed - him besides Harrison gives plenty of defensive energy in midfield but also a creative outlet for spreading quick deliveries out wide to the wings. I think that pairing would be great, With Seri and Fab to fight it out for the CAM spot or Seri has shown he too and play as a deep lying creative CM alongside a more physical presence

I don't start Grimes over Seri, Onomah or Fabio.   Why would we?

We don't HAVE to, but he's a quality player at this level. ATM josh is doing fairly well but until this point Grimes has proven himself a more consistent performer at this level. Wouldnt start him over Fab by any means but wouldn't be mad at him earning a spot over Josh. Seri I'm still more than happy to persevere with though we could bring him in for Fab later in games as our 2nd CAM option and have Grimes with Reed for the games where we face more physical opposition.

Either way, IF we lose Anguissa, Id be absolutely more than happy with Grimes for under 5m wether he starts from the offset or earns his place I like what I've seen

ChesterTheTabby

Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 30, 2021, 02:40:20 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 30, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

Do we necessarily need a like for like?
Grimes is a combative creative DM  - similar to Reed - him besides Harrison gives plenty of defensive energy in midfield but also a creative outlet for spreading quick deliveries out wide to the wings. I think that pairing would be great, With Seri and Fab to fight it out for the CAM spot or Seri has shown he too and play as a deep lying creative CM alongside a more physical presence

I don't start Grimes over Seri, Onomah or Fabio.   Why would we? We're already using Seri in Grimes role (even if they play it differently).

AOB, I agree with your assessment here as well. If Grimes does come, he'd really need to prove his worth to start over Seri, Onomah, or Fab - none of them have put a foot wrong. Seri has really been revelatory since either, or a combination of: 1) Buying in to a manager who understands him, 2) fighting to show he's good enough to be purchased by a club he prefers, 3) realized his previous "holier than tho" mentality has cost him years of his career he'll never get back and he just wants to have fun again.
Someone once asked me, "Why Fulham?".
My response, "Well, lad, you just haven't seen the light yet"


AnOldBrownie

#2018
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 30, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

Do we necessarily need a like for like?
Grimes is a combative creative DM  - similar to Reed - him besides Harrison gives plenty of defensive energy in midfield but also a creative outlet for spreading quick deliveries out wide to the wings. I think that pairing would be great, With Seri and Fab to fight it out for the CAM spot or Seri has shown he too and play as a deep lying creative CM alongside a more physical presence
For me yes, i would sign someone to replace Anguissa and leave Seri where he is, as he has been doing well. Say we move him and then he doesnt play well we have then, albeit in a small way, damaged the squad strength. Reed and Seri in the 2 would be great in my mind, JO could replace Anguissa, think he has done well this season, but I still think we need that replacement for Anguissa/Stefjo

Currently that's Onomah.   But I agree that we should be TWO players deep at that spot and I don't think we currently are.  Yes, Harrison can do the job there, but I'm not betting my house (or our chance of winning the Championship this season__ something Fulham has never done outright) on Harrison staying healthy the way he plays.   I thought we were going to lose him this weekend after his lower leg got rolled into.

Nathaniel Chalobah...if he'd come.   I've seen him play twice and he's fairly dynamic moving forward.   Doesn't really offer anything defensively imo.  But when the ball is in his feet he's always looking to set up the attack with the right pass.   Work rate could be higher.


jayffc

Quote from: AnOldBrownie on August 30, 2021, 02:46:07 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:40:24 PM
Quote from: jayffc on August 30, 2021, 02:37:59 PM
Quote from: junior white on August 30, 2021, 02:25:48 PM
Quote from: WestSussexWhite on August 30, 2021, 01:25:52 PM
He's turned us down again according to reports. I've not had an update since first thing, so if he has turned us down again, I'd move on to Grimes or Chalobah.
Grimes for Anguissa is a poor deal for us, he doesnt do the same role, unless the are moving Seri into that. I wouldnt as Seri has been great just as he is so far

Do we necessarily need a like for like?
Grimes is a combative creative DM  - similar to Reed - him besides Harrison gives plenty of defensive energy in midfield but also a creative outlet for spreading quick deliveries out wide to the wings. I think that pairing would be great, With Seri and Fab to fight it out for the CAM spot or Seri has shown he too and play as a deep lying creative CM alongside a more physical presence
For me yes, i would sign someone to replace Anguissa and leave Seri where he is, as he has been doing well. Say we move him and then he doesnt play well we have then, albeit in a small way, damaged the squad strength. Reed and Seri in the 2 would be great in my mind, JO could replace Anguissa, think he has done well this season, but I still think we need that replacement for Anguissa/Stefjo

Currently that's Onomah.   But I agree that we should be TWO players deep at that spot and I don't think we currently are.  Yes, Harrison can do the job there, but I'm not betting my house (or our chance of winning the Championship this season__ something Fulham has never done outright) on Harrison staying healthy the way he plays.   I thought we were going to lose him this weekend after his lower leg got rolled into.

Nathaniel Chalobah...if he'd come.   I've seen him play twice and he's fairly dynamic moving forward.   Doesn't really offer anything defensively imo.  But when the ball is in his feet he's always looking to set up the attack with the right pass.   Work rate could be higher.



I mean weve won this league - it just wasnt called the championship at the time.

Also might add never said he should start off the bat - just I felt he'd be a good pairing with Harrison or another solid DM.

Given Anguissa hasnt been starting I'd be happy having him off the bench and fighting for one of those spots. Josh has still yet to perform consistently in his career to date (though I am ever hopeful and willing him on)  and as you say Harrison has his injury issues. See Grimes as a very good Harrison replacement too should he get injured

anyway, we shall see what transpires.