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The Official Silly Season Summer Transfer Thread 2021/22

Started by Friendsoffulham, May 21, 2021, 03:23:46 PM

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Blawarmy

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Quote from: Caedal on August 31, 2021, 03:42:49 PM
Isnt that the 4th bid of 2.5m that we've put in? They rejected the other 3 so....
Apparently we bid £2 million before but the figures are different everywhere. It seems a new bid was recently put in though.

Count Flapula

Quote from: Dougie on August 31, 2021, 02:19:47 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 31, 2021, 02:10:20 PM
Anguissa for £15m total isn't great business, but it is a depressed market and should provide a fair amount of FFP space that we may be able to take advantage of in January.

We won't be able to take advantage of it in January unless they choose to sign him permanently in January, which is very unlikely to happen.

Realistic best case is this has freed up £2-3m from wages being paid by Napoli. Highly doubt there is a loan fee involved as we are not in a strong bargaining position.

Ligue 1 agents really pulled our pants down in summer 2018... Anguissa at  (reported?) £30m grossly overpriced whether we paid for "potential" or not. If we were paying £30m for potential, we should have offered a smaller base with potential add-ons to take it to £30m if he met those targets. He is a good player but we overpaid, simple as.

What did we pay for MLM and Seri combined? Seri coming good finally but Zambo and Nice transfers were an absolutely criminal overspend.

lomotd

Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 31, 2021, 03:42:01 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on August 31, 2021, 03:33:02 PM
[emoji599] Fulham have launched a fresh £2.5M+ bid to sign Matt Grimes [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 from Swansea City. #FulhamFC #Swans

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Seems very cheap for a decent English player - surely we can stump up 4/5m for him if that's what is needed

Contract expires at the end of the season so they'd risk losing him on a free, hence the (surprisingly) low price.


PaulJ123

Quote from: lomotd on August 31, 2021, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 31, 2021, 03:42:01 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on August 31, 2021, 03:33:02 PM
[emoji599] Fulham have launched a fresh £2.5M+ bid to sign Matt Grimes [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 from Swansea City. #FulhamFC #Swans

(via @footyinsider247[emoji279])

Seems very cheap for a decent English player - surely we can stump up 4/5m for him if that's what is needed

Contract expires at the end of the season so they'd risk losing him on a free, hence the (surprisingly) low price.

Ahhh makes sense, thanks.

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Quote from: lomotd on August 31, 2021, 03:47:37 PM
Quote from: PaulJ123 on August 31, 2021, 03:42:01 PM
Quote from: Blawarmy on August 31, 2021, 03:33:02 PM
[emoji599] Fulham have launched a fresh £2.5M+ bid to sign Matt Grimes [emoji1022]󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿 from Swansea City. #FulhamFC #Swans

(via @footyinsider247[emoji279])

Seems very cheap for a decent English player - surely we can stump up 4/5m for him if that's what is needed



Contract expires at the end of the season so they'd risk losing him on a free, hence the (surprisingly) low price.


We should just pay the 4M and stop pissing about


DevonFFC

Fulham are exploring a late loan move for Newcastle United defender Emil Krafth as they look to bring in a new right-back before the transfer window shuts. #FFC #NUFC #DeadlineDay


rusty shackleford

99% of Newcastle fans are offering to drive him here. Wonderful


Statto

Quote from: Count Flapula on August 31, 2021, 03:47:00 PM
Quote from: Dougie on August 31, 2021, 02:19:47 PM
Quote from: itombomb on August 31, 2021, 02:10:20 PM
Anguissa for £15m total isn't great business, but it is a depressed market and should provide a fair amount of FFP space that we may be able to take advantage of in January.

We won't be able to take advantage of it in January unless they choose to sign him permanently in January, which is very unlikely to happen.

Realistic best case is this has freed up £2-3m from wages being paid by Napoli. Highly doubt there is a loan fee involved as we are not in a strong bargaining position.

Ligue 1 agents really pulled our pants down in summer 2018... Anguissa at  (reported?) £30m grossly overpriced whether we paid for "potential" or not. If we were paying £30m for potential, we should have offered a smaller base with potential add-ons to take it to £30m if he met those targets. He is a good player but we overpaid, simple as.

What did we pay for MLM and Seri combined? Seri coming good finally but Zambo and Nice transfers were an absolutely criminal overspend.

He was, like Mitroglou, a good player but not the right signing at the right time for us. The subtle issues an experienced DOF would have known (needing time to adjust, not being disciplined enough to play DM on his own, etc) but our naive rookie DOF missed. But actually I think the fact he can still command a fee like £15m now he's 3 years older, on a relatively short contract and we're motivated to sell, shows that actually he was worth the £25m we paid for him at the time.

DevonFFC

Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 31, 2021, 03:54:00 PM
99% of Newcastle fans are offering to drive him here. Wonderful

They have always been renowned for their generosity those geordies 

DevonFFC



Blawarmy

Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 31, 2021, 03:54:00 PM
99% of Newcastle fans are offering to drive him here. Wonderful
I've only seen 1 Newcastle fan say that

Blawarmy

Quote from: DevonFFC on August 31, 2021, 04:06:51 PM
Hector is trying to get a move away from Fulham
With our injury prone CBs we need him for backup

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rusty shackleford

Quote from: Blawarmy on August 31, 2021, 04:08:43 PM
Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 31, 2021, 03:54:00 PM
99% of Newcastle fans are offering to drive him here. Wonderful
I've only seen 1 Newcastle fan say that

Yeah, the rest of them are just celebrating wildly. In fact I only seen 1 saying he was decent

MickyAdamsFamily

i actually remember watching Emil Krafth from the Euros. I thought he stood out as a pretty good player for Sweden

Count Flapula

Quote from: Statto on August 31, 2021, 03:59:23 PM

He was, like Mitroglou, a good player but not the right signing at the right time for us. The subtle issues an experienced DOF would have known (needing time to adjust, not being disciplined enough to play DM on his own, etc) but our naive rookie DOF missed. But actually I think the fact he can still command a fee like £15m now he's 3 years older, on a relatively short contract and we're motivated to sell, shows that actually he was worth the £25m we paid for him at the time.

He was - and is - a good player. Worth £25m (if that's what we paid) - at the time we bought him? More palatable than that £30m mentioned by someone else earlier and I don't totally disagree, but still not worth £25m up front IMO as he was very raw still - maybe worth up to £25m total including add-on payments IF he met specific targets / reached his potential . I'd suggest at the very least our offer was structured completely wrong, so still maintain we were somewhat fleeced by agents/clubs in France that summer.

With regards to your passage above highlighted in bold, I appreciate what you're saying but he's still only 25 now so barely in his peak years yet, if at all - plus has effectively 3 years left on his contract with us, so to be forced to sell him for £10m less than we paid at that profile after 2 full Prem seasons and a season playing in La Liga is hugely disappointing. Appreciate it's a completely different market now due to COVID/us needing to satisfy FFP considerations. That said, it's quite a heavy loss considering his remaining contract length and age.



We Are Premier League

Quote from: MickeyAdamsFamily on August 31, 2021, 04:28:24 PM
i actually remember watching Emil Krafth from the Euros. I thought he stood out as a pretty good player for Sweden

In addition to covering for Tete, he has also played a bit at CB so could be the 5th CB if Hector leaves

ZM15

Quote from: rusty shackleford on August 31, 2021, 03:54:00 PM
99% of Newcastle fans are offering to drive him here. Wonderful

So did a lot of Lyon fans say the same thing when we bought Tete. Sometimes a new team could help change things up...