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Carvalho turns down latest contract offer from Fulham

Started by 70sPimlico, November 02, 2021, 04:12:34 PM

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I Ronic

Any player can let their contract run down. There's very little a club can do. The positives are our academy are turning out better players and eventually some will stick and the academy will attract better players.
As long as a player isn't causing a problem within the squad and they can contribute to promotion. Which brings a huge £££ windfall for the Club. I'd play them.

filham

Quote from: I Ronic on November 03, 2021, 01:54:30 PM
Any player can let their contract run down. There's very little a club can do. The positives are our academy are turning out better players and eventually some will stick and the academy will attract better players.
As long as a player isn't causing a problem within the squad and they can contribute to promotion. Which brings a huge £££ windfall for the Club. I'd play them.
We are doing well just now with all players full of enthusiasm, lets not risk the team spirit by including a young talent who doesn't want to be with us.
Remember what one rotten apple can do in a barrel of good apples.

Stevieboy

Anyone got any concrete, confirmed news whether there is any truth in this rumour.
As I said before why would the club make him an offer when he is,effectively, between agents.
Why do we always seem to believe the negative rumours without any substance.
All it does is make us fans feel angry at him, probably without any reason whatsoever.
Any idiots booing him on hearsay will be instrumental in him leaving I feel.


WindyCity

My feelings are if fit he should play.  As long as he is liked by his teammates and he is not causing any rift within, he should play.  It can only benefit BOTH the team and the player.  Good performances from him help towards promotion and also can enhance players' value if he moves on next year.  Hard for us 'outsiders' to really know how he feels about helping FFC move forward.......

ashley.denness@yahoo.co.uk

Agreed, if fit then play him. Let's not forget Fred was out of contract at the end of 2017-2018 and by Jan had made it clear that he had no intention of signing a new deal. Despite this Fred played the majority of the games in the 2nd half of that season and didn't look uncommitted despite knowing he was off in the summer. As long as Carv is fit to play and committed to play, I have no issues with playing him

Denver Fulham

Can I just say that there's a big difference between a professional "not wanting to be with us" and "thinking he's worth more than what we're offering him"? He's just a teenager, but this is his job. I presume those on this board would not want to sign a contract for less than you think you're worth if you have numerous other options on the table?

I highly doubt Fabio's intent is to play in the U23s for the next six months as he trying to showcase himself for a big payday, whether that's with us or a larger club. If his head is straight and the manager thinks he should be out there, I have no issues with him playing and helping us get promoted.


Milo

Agree with latest posts that provided he's not causing locker room disruption then he should play as eg 3 points, promotion etc would go some way to recouping the money it looks like we will lose when his contract expires.

Craven Mad

I want him to stay with us. However, if his priority is salary rather than playtime, then he'll never develop into the talent we're hoping, and this should be a sign for us to move on.

Hopefully his new agent will get his head in the right place: he needs to establish himself in a team for a few seasons before being ready to take the next step. If he stays with us, he's a guaranteed starter for a season and (most likely) would be starting in the premier league next season too. Then he'd be in a great place to make an informed decision about his true level, ready for his next move. Madness to leave now - there're many ex-youngsters who left too soon, and only one has gone on to start in a top league (Moussa Dembele II, in France), with far more left with middling careers (Pat Roberts, Eric Hyndman, Tankovic, Chris David etc).

Hopefully he changes his mind soon - for his sake as much as ours!

gang

#108
Quote from: bog on November 02, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
If he doesn't want to stay then good bye.

Thank God or someone that this never happened when the Maestro was coming through!  :doh:

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Spurs were desperate to sign him but he wanted to play for the same club as his best friend Tosh Chamberlain.






Dr Quinzel

Looked his usual busy self last night when he came on. Not sure what to think, and don't want to overthink or whatever, so will just continue to enjoy him being part of this team until he isn't.

sunburywhite

Quote from: gang on November 03, 2021, 07:34:01 PM
Quote from: bog on November 02, 2021, 05:25:48 PM
If he doesn't want to stay then good bye.

Thank God or someone that this never happened when the Maestro was coming through!  :doh:

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Spurs were desperate to sign him but he wanted to play for the same club as his best friend Tosh Chamberlain.

Fabio is best mates with Tosh?
Remember you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.
I will be as good as I can be and when I cross the finishing line I will see what it got me

SuffolkWhite

If he stays then all well and good, and if he goes so be it!

More concerned with the Academy being successful but also that the Tribunals that decide compensation get it right if a young player moves on or the Academy system will ultimately fail and then we will all follow the Brentford model.
Guy goes into the doctor's.
"Doc, I've got a cricket ball stuck up my backside
"How's that?"
"Don't you start"


Keefy

For what its worth, my guess is that Fabio is trying to negotiate the best possible deal for himself. So far he has rejected the offer/s  made to him by the club, but I have not heard from anywhere or from anybody that he has said that he wants to leave. Moreover when he has played in the last few games he has certainly put in some effort and joined in celebrations with the team. Reports of booing by our fans hardly seems designed to make him feel wanted ( remembering that hes still very young)

I would like to encourage all fans to cut him some slack. Personally I have always tried to negotiate the best deal for myself when joining a new employer so I fully expect Fabio to do the same. In the meantime I wish him well and hope that he continues to support our push for the title     

MartyFFC

He's probably already sending flirty texts to Klopp and Conte. Be surprised if he's here next season

AnOldBrownie

Quote from: Keefy on November 04, 2021, 07:14:55 PM
For what its worth, my guess is that Fabio is trying to negotiate the best possible deal for himself. So far he has rejected the offer/s  made to him by the club, but I have not heard from anywhere or from anybody that he has said that he wants to leave. Moreover when he has played in the last few games he has certainly put in some effort and joined in celebrations with the team. Reports of booing by our fans hardly seems designed to make him feel wanted ( remembering that hes still very young)

I would like to encourage all fans to cut him some slack. Personally I have always tried to negotiate the best deal for myself when joining a new employer so I fully expect Fabio to do the same. In the meantime I wish him well and hope that he continues to support our push for the title   
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JimOG

From Peter Rutzler The Athletic last night:
Silva spoke about Carvalho's situation last night. Said he will be involved if he keeps working hard and said he'd not seen anything different in his behaviour.

"If you ask me if I am happy with the situation around him, all these conversations? I am not." #FFC

Can anyone explain why Fabio would 'allow' himself to be sold in January rather than running down his contract and pocketing all the money in June?

Riverside

Let's be realistic . Liverpool at least have already made him a verbal offer

He could believe he is more Elliott than Roberts and have a shot at playing for the 1st team within 2 years 

I don't believe anything is signed - as that would be a provable breach of tapping up rules - so he could change his mind if
1) we keep playing as we are
2) his new agent gets a decent cut of the new contract with us ( rather than just if he leaves )

So watch and wait

In the meantime play him
1) if his attitude is right
2) if he merits a place - currently ahead of BDR who is playing well