News:

Use a VPN to stream games Safely and Securely 🔒
A Virtual Private Network can also allow you to
watch games Not being broadcast in the UK For
more Information and how to Sign Up go to
https://go.nordvpn.net/SH4FE

Main Menu


Anguissa: Merged

Started by perry geyton, May 12, 2022, 03:25:28 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

copthornemike

My opinion on Anguissa for what is worth is that on paper he is technically & physically head & shoulders above our current midfielders, but mentally and output wise he is not Premiership standard, eg no goals for Napoli and very few assists!
All very well talking about player loyalty, an emotional exercise but it does not win games although undoubtedly helpful for club spirit.
The bigger question is that our current midfielders, and our best XI in my opinion, will struggle to contain most Premiership opponents if they are on their game, so 2-3 quality midfielders are required.

filham

Well we seem to be divided on this board about Anguissa but the club have seen a lot of him in matches and in training and Silva must have a firm opinion of whether or not he wants him in the squad for next season.
It is now important that a decision is made without delay, he should be either be signed or sold early in the window, we don't want to have to live with doubt all the way up to the new season which would delay the possible signing of a replacement.

70sPimlico

Quote from: copthornemike on May 17, 2022, 09:17:53 AM
My opinion on Anguissa for what is worth is that on paper he is technically & physically head & shoulders above our current midfielders, but mentally and output wise he is not Premiership standard, eg no goals for Napoli and very few assists!
All very well talking about player loyalty, an emotional exercise but it does not win games although undoubtedly helpful for club spirit.
The bigger question is that our current midfielders, and our best XI in my opinion, will struggle to contain most Premiership opponents if they are on their game, so 2-3 quality midfielders are required.
Genuinely with respect as I see your post meant well, do you think that the 3rd best team in Italy that has qualified for the champions league, have a player that is rated 4th best this season across all attributes (whoscored) just haven't noticed that Anguissa doesnt score or directly assist, or maybe they are looking at other things from his game?


toshes mate

I regret to say that I haven't seen anything eye catching or supporting his price tag for Fulham from Anguissa thus far, and although I accept he played in two fated and relegated PL teams, there was a lot of difference in circumstances between them.   The first relegation featured three managers with little in common and the second featured a blinkered manager who was also complicit in the first failure being a coach throughout that campaign and therefore familiar with what was going on at that time - if anyone knew Anguissa well it should have been him.   Fact remains that with Anguissa and an apparently better defensive pair we didn't survive.  That is the basis of my doubt but what if we find midfield gem who can play in partnership with Anguissa and lift both their games?  Can Marco Silva do that? 

I do not minimise Anguissa's football skills but it remains to be seen if he can play to his price and become a real PL talent at the third time of asking.   That is a risk and is our head coach up for it?  Thus far Marco Silva has delivered and so let us see what he has in mind for 22/23 midfield (and therefore defensive) success.

S.F.Sorrow

From what I've seen of Anguissa (which to be honest is very little except when he played for us) he is clearly a talented player but he lacks the concentration and awareness to be a reliable holding midfielder and also lacks the end product to be any kind of attacking threat whatsoever. He can dribble his way past 4 players and then turn around and dribble his way back to where he started. I'm sure he could be an amazing player for the right team, with the right tactics and in the right position but I don't think that team will be Fulham.

Denver Fulham

Anguissa was very arguably our best player before he got COVID in the last Prem season, and I didn't think he was nearly the same after that.

I also don't think his skill set works with the talent we had/have, but it can/does in a different league and/or on a better team. In that way, he might not be completely different from Mitrovic, who I always thought would fare better in the Prem on 6th-10th place team rather than a promoted one. Hope he proves me wrong this time.


copthornemike

Quote from: 70sPimlico on May 17, 2022, 10:32:40 AM
Quote from: copthornemike on May 17, 2022, 09:17:53 AM
My opinion on Anguissa for what is worth is that on paper he is technically & physically head & shoulders above our current midfielders, but mentally and output wise he is not Premiership standard, eg no goals for Napoli and very few assists!
All very well talking about player loyalty, an emotional exercise but it does not win games although undoubtedly helpful for club spirit.
The bigger question is that our current midfielders, and our best XI in my opinion, will struggle to contain most Premiership opponents if they are on their game, so 2-3 quality midfielders are required.
Genuinely with respect as I see your post meant well, do you think that the 3rd best team in Italy that has qualified for the champions league, have a player that is rated 4th best this season across all attributes (whoscored) just haven't noticed that Anguissa doesnt score or directly assist, or maybe they are looking at other things from his game?
Fair comment - undoubtedly done a good job with Napoli this season. Undoubtedly he is a good player for that particular league, however for a newly promoted club in the faster & more physically demanding Premiership many of us have our doubts. Equally some excellent Premiership players struggle when they move to Italy!


perry geyton

Quote from: Whitestone on May 16, 2022, 09:51:14 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on May 16, 2022, 09:44:51 AM
This post is so strange .. Clearly have some personal vendetta against him

Good player


Agree with your comments. There were some posters who  were anti Seri in exactly the same way prior to this season. I don't get it. Anguissa is easily the best midfielder we have, though I doubt we'll see him in a white shirt again.
Let's hope so

davew

Quote from: Denver Fulham on May 17, 2022, 05:15:39 PM
Anguissa was very arguably our best player before he got COVID in the last Prem season, and I didn't think he was nearly the same after that.

I also don't think his skill set works with the talent we had/have, but it can/does in a different league and/or on a better team. In that way, he might not be completely different from Mitrovic, who I always thought would fare better in the Prem on 6th-10th place team rather than a promoted one. Hope he proves me wrong this time.
Hope he doesn't get the chance, need to move him on!
Grandson of a Former Director of FFC (served 1954 - 1968)


vancouver

Everyone loves a scapegoat. He had some immense games for us(especially the draw vs Liverpool at the cottage). Our entire team was garbage our last relegation year, yet he is the only one who carries the stain.

Reed is average at literally everything. He is a good squad player,(for a relegation battle side) but isn't a specialist at anything other than running a lot.

cmg


Somebody loves him. (translated from today's Il Mattino, Naples daily newspaper.)

"Frank Anguissa , Napoli midfielder until June 30th but still owned by Fulham , just recently promoted to the Premier League , is still not sure of his future . The blue club [Napoli] can redeem the Cameroonian and buy him definitively from the English, a market deal that has not yet materialized and that could change in one way or another the Neapolitan market summer.

Meanwhile, in the two days of break granted by Spalletti, Anguissa has no intention of leaving Naples: with some friends the blue midfielder enjoys the almost summer air of Posillipo , between the sun and the sea, waiting for the last championship challenge . A championship in which he was the absolute protagonist: according to WhoScored data , in fact, Anguissa is the third best defensive midfielder of the last Serie A, behind Bennacer and Tonali and in front of teammate Fabian Ruiz."

The good or bad news, dependant on your pov, is that Napoli will be keen to activate the 'buy' clause in the loan agreement.
Hopefully a conclusion is reached, one way or the other, before that 'June 30th' deadline.


Twig

Quote from: vancouver on May 17, 2022, 07:50:56 PM
Everyone loves a scapegoat. He had some immense games for us(especially the draw vs Liverpool at the cottage). Our entire team was garbage our last relegation year, yet he is the only one who carries the stain.

Reed is average at literally everything. He is a good squad player,(for a relegation battle side) but isn't a specialist at anything other than running a lot.

If our entire team was garbage why do so many want to resign Areola and Anderson? 


Whitestone

Quote from: Twig on May 17, 2022, 09:13:22 PM
Quote from: vancouver on May 17, 2022, 07:50:56 PM
Everyone loves a scapegoat. He had some immense games for us(especially the draw vs Liverpool at the cottage). Our entire team was garbage our last relegation year, yet he is the only one who carries the stain.

Reed is average at literally everything. He is a good squad player,(for a relegation battle side) but isn't a specialist at anything other than running a lot.

If our entire team was garbage why do so many want to resign Areola and Anderson? 

I think you probably understood the point being made about Anguissa.

Somerset Fulham

Napoli have triggered the clause and personal terms already agreed apparently.

I wonder who will be the next target if the above is true, and Frank leaves.

Donnie Lonegan

As far as I'm concerned, like Carvalho, he can just far cough.


Matt10

I think it will be a good move for all. I struggled with him last season. Some say it was because of Parker, which I could agree with, but at the same time - he really did not perform his best. There were too many brain-fleeting moments for me that stacked up against his good play. Such as absent-mindedly one-time passing to the other team happened on more than one occasion. Trying stepovers in advanced positions only to take one too many and lose control of the ball. His very wild shooting and lack of composure. His overconfident dribbling and demeanor, very similar to how Pogba will look at times, hurt a lot more than it helped.

He wants to be at Lazio, and it was fairly clear he didn't want to be at Fulham when he put on the shirt. I understand the world isn't fair, but it's a joke to me that he waltzed into the first team last year and would've tried to do the same this year. We call AK a passion merchant, well to me Zambo is a leech who only plays for himself. I think it's a good thing to distance ourselves from such a player, and fill in the role with someone who wants to be at the club full-time rather than rented-time.

FreiBird

Quote from: Donnie Lonegan on May 18, 2022, 02:39:02 PM
As far as I'm concerned, like Carvalho, he can just far cough.

but when someone says Parker is detestable, " no need for that sort of language in my view."

So consistent.

cmg

Quote from: Matt10 on May 18, 2022, 02:58:05 PM

He wants to be at Lazio...

He'll be disapointed by the outcome then.
Same colour shirts but over 100 miles apart.


Matt10

Quote from: cmg on May 18, 2022, 03:07:02 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on May 18, 2022, 02:58:05 PM

He wants to be at Lazio...

He'll be disapointed by the outcome then.
Same colour shirts but over 100 miles apart.

Woops - got the potential keeper on the brain! I've obviously moved on from Zambo :)

Kingjay81

A good player on his day but he didn't have many of those days with us.

Reading through this thread, I feel that there a fair few who are massively overrating him and others who don't fully appreciate some of his quality.

The truth is probably somewhere in the middle and that he is a decent premier league midfielder and nothing more in my view.

I won't be losing any sleep about him leaving.