Anguissa: Merged

[clarkey]

HE'S GONE !!!!!

[MartyFFC]

Hallelujah

[Sting of the North]

I think it will be a good move for all. I struggled with him last season. Some say it was because of Parker, which I could agree with, but at the same time - he really did not perform his best. There were too many brain-fleeting moments for me that stacked up against his good play. Such as absent-mindedly one-time passing to the other team happened on more than one occasion. Trying stepovers in advanced positions only to take one too many and lose control of the ball. His very wild shooting and lack of composure. His overconfident dribbling and demeanor, very similar to how Pogba will look at times, hurt a lot more than it helped.

He wants to be at Lazio, and it was fairly clear he didn't want to be at Fulham when he put on the shirt. I understand the world isn't fair, but it's a joke to me that he waltzed into the first team last year and would've tried to do the same this year. We call AK a passion merchant, well to me Zambo is a leech who only plays for himself. I think it's a good thing to distance ourselves from such a player, and fill in the role with someone who wants to be at the club full-time rather than rented-time.

Interesting character assassination. You must be a very good reader of personalities, or know a huge amount more than what has been made publicly available. At least to me none of what you wrote in your second paragraph was fairly clear, or even a little clear.

[SP]

Sorry to see him go but probably the best outcome for all parties.

[Jims Dentist]

HE'S GONE !!!!!

Good.
No end product and questionable application.

[cmg]

Whoscored ratings made him our best player of 2020/21.

[Deeping_white]

Out of interest, for all the posters who say "no end product", what do you think of Harrison Reed considering he provides even less output going forward but is apparently PL quality according to some?

[Matt10]

I think it will be a good move for all. I struggled with him last season. Some say it was because of Parker, which I could agree with, but at the same time - he really did not perform his best. There were too many brain-fleeting moments for me that stacked up against his good play. Such as absent-mindedly one-time passing to the other team happened on more than one occasion. Trying stepovers in advanced positions only to take one too many and lose control of the ball. His very wild shooting and lack of composure. His overconfident dribbling and demeanor, very similar to how Pogba will look at times, hurt a lot more than it helped.

He wants to be at Lazio, and it was fairly clear he didn't want to be at Fulham when he put on the shirt. I understand the world isn't fair, but it's a joke to me that he waltzed into the first team last year and would've tried to do the same this year. We call AK a passion merchant, well to me Zambo is a leech who only plays for himself. I think it's a good thing to distance ourselves from such a player, and fill in the role with someone who wants to be at the club full-time rather than rented-time.

Interesting character assassination. You must be a very good reader of personalities, or know a huge amount more than what has been made publicly available. At least to me none of what you wrote in your second paragraph was fairly clear, or even a little clear.

It's not even that, it's simply my interpretation of his loyalty to the club. Does someone seem loyal if they keep leaving every time we get relegated? What stopped him from being Mitro, Tosin or even Seri (to name a few) - who battled and got us back up? This time he would have had left us, and now he'd be back again - ready to reap the benefits from the hard work put forth by those who stayed.

[Matt10]

Out of interest, for all the posters who say "no end product", what do you think of Harrison Reed considering he provides even less output going forward but is apparently PL quality according to some?

I do like Reed, but within Silva's system he's not who we really want that advanced - which is where he found himself a lot of the time. Many times throughout the season we'd get in an advanced area and he'd either play the safe pass or couldn't make the threaded ones. However, his work rate off the ball is second-to-none, and that's where his true strength is to me.

In terms of PL quality standards, it's a bit skewed. He's played a lot of premier league matches, so he has the experience that we need. However, guilty by association of the Parker relegated side, time will only tell whether he and the others are going to be PL quality.

[Craven Mad]

Out of interest, for all the posters who say "no end product", what do you think of Harrison Reed considering he provides even less output going forward but is apparently PL quality according to some?

Literally all Anguissa had was an exceptional ability to cleanly breakup play, an effortless talent to drift past players and create space, and a Champions League-level quality to progress the team swiftly from defence to attack with consummate ease.

WHO NEEDS ANY OF THAT. I WANTS GOALZZZZZZ. RUBBBISSHHHHHH. GOOD RIDDANCE!!!!

[keithh]

I'm just glad this saga is over.

[davew]

Did we pay them to take him or was it the other way round? Either way, wish him all the best for the future and condolences to his new club!

[Deeping_white]

Out of interest, for all the posters who say "no end product", what do you think of Harrison Reed considering he provides even less output going forward but is apparently PL quality according to some?

I do like Reed, but within Silva's system he's not who we really want that advanced - which is where he found himself a lot of the time. Many times throughout the season we'd get in an advanced area and he'd either play the safe pass or couldn't make the threaded ones. However, his work rate off the ball is second-to-none, and that's where his true strength is to me.

In terms of PL quality standards, it's a bit skewed. He's played a lot of premier league matches, so he has the experience that we need. However, guilty by association of the Parker relegated side, time will only tell whether he and the others are going to be PL quality.

Anguissa has 10 more appearances in the PL than Reed btw so can't really say he's played a lot of games with a paltry 48 appearances. If his main output is that he runs around a lot then we're stuffed if we start with him next season as we'll get no technical benefit but a lot of running around like a headless chicken

[HV71]

For "running around a lot " read in peoples faces. Reed isn't as good a footballer as Anguissa but his application makes him more useful .I remember a radio interview after our last game at St Mary's when James Ward Prowse said that Reed was a nightmare to play against because he never gave you time on the ball . Old teammates maybe so I watched the highlights only the other day- and there was Zambo  nowhere near the action just letting people walk past him .
Better player no application
Who scored ratings may have him as our best player but my Subbuteo 1967set with red plastic floodlights says he is crap

[Matt10]

Out of interest, for all the posters who say "no end product", what do you think of Harrison Reed considering he provides even less output going forward but is apparently PL quality according to some?

I do like Reed, but within Silva's system he's not who we really want that advanced - which is where he found himself a lot of the time. Many times throughout the season we'd get in an advanced area and he'd either play the safe pass or couldn't make the threaded ones. However, his work rate off the ball is second-to-none, and that's where his true strength is to me.

In terms of PL quality standards, it's a bit skewed. He's played a lot of premier league matches, so he has the experience that we need. However, guilty by association of the Parker relegated side, time will only tell whether he and the others are going to be PL quality.

Anguissa has 10 more appearances in the PL than Reed btw so can't really say he's played a lot of games with a paltry 48 appearances. If his main output is that he runs around a lot then we're stuffed if we start with him next season as we'll get no technical benefit but a lot of running around like a headless chicken

You asked the question about Reed, and I answered. I've already given my thoughts on Zambo, and fairly detailed what I saw were red flags. I mentioned how Reed is not who we really want in advanced positions, but still gave him some regard for his defensive work rate. We're basically saying the same thing about his technical output. If you'd ask if he should be our starting CDM, I personally don't think so.

If they were both playing for Silva this coming season, I could probably provide a stronger comparison.

[Sting of the North]

I think it will be a good move for all. I struggled with him last season. Some say it was because of Parker, which I could agree with, but at the same time - he really did not perform his best. There were too many brain-fleeting moments for me that stacked up against his good play. Such as absent-mindedly one-time passing to the other team happened on more than one occasion. Trying stepovers in advanced positions only to take one too many and lose control of the ball. His very wild shooting and lack of composure. His overconfident dribbling and demeanor, very similar to how Pogba will look at times, hurt a lot more than it helped.

He wants to be at Lazio, and it was fairly clear he didn't want to be at Fulham when he put on the shirt. I understand the world isn't fair, but it's a joke to me that he waltzed into the first team last year and would've tried to do the same this year. We call AK a passion merchant, well to me Zambo is a leech who only plays for himself. I think it's a good thing to distance ourselves from such a player, and fill in the role with someone who wants to be at the club full-time rather than rented-time.

Interesting character assassination. You must be a very good reader of personalities, or know a huge amount more than what has been made publicly available. At least to me none of what you wrote in your second paragraph was fairly clear, or even a little clear.

It's not even that, it's simply my interpretation of his loyalty to the club. Does someone seem loyal if they keep leaving every time we get relegated? What stopped him from being Mitro, Tosin or even Seri (to name a few) - who battled and got us back up? This time he would have had left us, and now he'd be back again - ready to reap the benefits from the hard work put forth by those who stayed.

Anguissa has not been in a position to come and go as he likes, as he has been under contract. The club could have kindly told him to stay, and he would likely have played as is indicated by him doing just that before he was loaned out (by the club, imagine that). Similarly, the club didn't have to put him in the starting eleven once he was back, it was not Anguissa's choice, so what do you mean that he "waltzed into the first team"? Blame that Parker guy then if anyone. Or do you think that Anguissa should have refused to play (I mean of course he wouldn't, because he obviously honors his contract, unlike said manager, allegedly)?

I am sure that many of our players would have been interested to join Napoli or a similar level of club on loan, but I suspect few attracted any such interest. I think very few players are loyal if they think they have better opportunities elsewhere. And why would they? It's not as if clubs show much loyalty.

This whole discussion is utterly bizarre to me, like from an alternate universe where Anguissa holds all the cards with a gun to the club's head. Maybe there is indeed a lot more to this that only a select few here is aware of, although I doubt that is the case.

But we all obviously view things very differently.

[Hugh Gentry]

I think it will be a good move for all. I struggled with him last season. Some say it was because of Parker, which I could agree with, but at the same time - he really did not perform his best. There were too many brain-fleeting moments for me that stacked up against his good play. Such as absent-mindedly one-time passing to the other team happened on more than one occasion. Trying stepovers in advanced positions only to take one too many and lose control of the ball. His very wild shooting and lack of composure. His overconfident dribbling and demeanor, very similar to how Pogba will look at times, hurt a lot more than it helped.

He wants to be at Lazio, and it was fairly clear he didn't want to be at Fulham when he put on the shirt. I understand the world isn't fair, but it's a joke to me that he waltzed into the first team last year and would've tried to do the same this year. We call AK a passion merchant, well to me Zambo is a leech who only plays for himself. I think it's a good thing to distance ourselves from such a player, and fill in the role with someone who wants to be at the club full-time rather than rented-time.

Interesting character assassination. You must be a very good reader of personalities, or know a huge amount more than what has been made publicly available. At least to me none of what you wrote in your second paragraph was fairly clear, or even a little clear.

Just give it up, what is your agenda here exactly?

[bill taylors apprentice]

Big money signing, high salary earner and delivered very little in terms of helping the team achieve positive results and that surely is what big money, high earners are bought for?

Of course, no player can win on his own but Zambo was poor value for money and nobody will convince me otherwise.

[Sting of the North]

I think it will be a good move for all. I struggled with him last season. Some say it was because of Parker, which I could agree with, but at the same time - he really did not perform his best. There were too many brain-fleeting moments for me that stacked up against his good play. Such as absent-mindedly one-time passing to the other team happened on more than one occasion. Trying stepovers in advanced positions only to take one too many and lose control of the ball. His very wild shooting and lack of composure. His overconfident dribbling and demeanor, very similar to how Pogba will look at times, hurt a lot more than it helped.

He wants to be at Lazio, and it was fairly clear he didn't want to be at Fulham when he put on the shirt. I understand the world isn't fair, but it's a joke to me that he waltzed into the first team last year and would've tried to do the same this year. We call AK a passion merchant, well to me Zambo is a leech who only plays for himself. I think it's a good thing to distance ourselves from such a player, and fill in the role with someone who wants to be at the club full-time rather than rented-time.

Interesting character assassination. You must be a very good reader of personalities, or know a huge amount more than what has been made publicly available. At least to me none of what you wrote in your second paragraph was fairly clear, or even a little clear.

Just give it up, what is your agenda here exactly?

What on earth are you on about? Why would I need an agenda to question the completely conjecture based assessment of someone else on a message board? And why wouldn't I be allowed to share my views and thoughts? Should we turn this into an echo chamber and decide that everyone should dislike Anguissa, or can we keep it a place where people are allowed to think for themselves?

I invite you to use arguments instead of asking other posters to stop posting.

[St Eve]

HE'S GONE !!!!!

How much?